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[radio_apeshot]

How come nobody mentions Telegram?

It is badass. The same as Whatsapp but better.

Unfortunately, only a friend uses it and we chat on there. Everyone else and their mother is on Whatsapp, which is fine as well, I use it everyday.

 

[Foxy the Fox]

I just found out that people actually use iMessage.

wtf, just use Whatsapp to stop worry about iOS and Android.

 

[finalflame]

How come nobody mentions Telegram?

It is badass. The same as Whatsapp but better.

Unfortunately, only a friend uses it and we chat on there. Everyone else and their mother is on Whatsapp, which is fine as well, I use it everyday.

Because, as you said, nobody uses it. People tend to stay where all their friends are. And they're all on WhatsApp.

I just found out that people actually use iMessage.

wtf, just use Whatsapp to stop worry about iOS and Android.

That's just not how it is in the U.S.. Everyone and their mother has an iPhone and just uses iMessage.

 

[Jeremy]

How come nobody mentions Telegram?

It is badass. The same as Whatsapp but better.

Unfortunately, only a friend uses it and we chat on there. Everyone else and their mother is on Whatsapp, which is fine as well, I use it everyday.

I almost thought someone was about to start passionately advocating for the telegram, similar to the posters asking “why would you need a messaging app when you have email?”

 

[Ricky_R]

It honestly surprises me that Whatsapp isn't standard in the US. It's such a great messaging app.

 

[HiiiLife]

so people actually use iMessage?

No shit.

 

[RoKKeR]

I just found out that people actually use iMessage.

wtf, just use Whatsapp to stop worry about iOS and Android.

This unfortunately just isn't how it works in America.

 

[Xyber]

It honestly surprises me that Whatsapp isn't standard in the US. It's such a great messaging app.

When most people just buy iPhones, there's no need for another app that does the same thing but requires no setup.

If I used an iPhone, I would still prefer if everyone used WhatsApp or something similar so you could message everyone for free no matter what phone they had.

 

[curiouscharles]

is it necessary even?

who doesn't have unlimited texts?

mind you, i'm still on iPhone, so it's not like i know what i might miss if i didn't have iMessage anymore.

 

[TheCochese]

iMessage works virtually seamlessly with SMS.

It's like people dont understand this.

 

[Ashhong]

is it necessary even?

who doesn't have unlimited texts?

mind you, i'm still on iPhone, so it's not like i know what i might miss if i didn't have iMessage anymore.

iMessage is so much more and better than texts

 

[curiouscharles]

iMessage is so much more and better than texts

yeah, yeah, working over internet as opposed to cellular networks.

still have zero issues with texts where i'm based [western canada], so still don't get it.

 

[Oxn]

Just wait till we get animojis. All yall Whatsapp fools will come around.

 

[Firestorm]

It's like people dont understand this.

Do you often use SMS? I have only two friends who I need to use texts with and that's only when we're trying to meet up somewhere because they don't have data. Otherwise we communicate via Hangouts or Messenger which is where our group chats are.

 

[TheCochese]

Do you often use SMS? I have only two friends who I need to use texts with and that's only when we're trying to meet up somewhere because they don't have data. Otherwise we communicate via Hangouts or Messenger which is where our group chats are.

Yeah, all the time. Or I would, if everyone I knew wasn't on iPhone.

I get text alerts from quite a few things in the area that way as well. It all comes through as one seamless experience.

 

[Foxy the Fox]

This unfortunately just isn't how it works in America.

in the US*

In the rest of America we all use WhatsApp

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

Currently have a cheapo moto and, yeah, I just use my iPad for messaging when I’m home.

Getting a 6s soon thank god.

 

[Vyer]

When going through Harvey, lots of alerts from the city and emergency services were coming through texts

 

[The Faceless Master]

iMessage works virtually seamlessly with SMS.

that's a fucking lie.

if it did this thread wouldn't exist.

people wouldn't want to go back to iMessage if everything worked seamlessly.

obviously things are broken.

 

[manakel]

that's a fucking lie.

if it did this thread wouldn't exist.

people wouldn't want to go back to iMessage if everything worked seamlessly.

obviously things are broken.

Where's the lie though?

 

[ZOONAMI]

It's been ten years. It was designed before the iPhone caught on, before OTT services took over the world, as a way for carriers to "fight back" against OTT. This "guy named Dean" has been covering RCS for 10 years already. Read the whole thing. RCS "usage" numbers are heavily inflated, it's all hot air. The whole thing is full of fundamental problems, one being Apple having zero interest in supporting it.

In 10 years, only 49 carriers implemented RCS, many are incompatible with each other and some even silently dropped it. Many smartphone manufacturers never bothered adding support for it on their phones (it's not just a software update).

The rest of the world outside the US moved away from SMS and RCS won't bring them back. At best, what happens is that US Android users will get slightly better messaging among themselves via the default texting app. Texting with iPhone users will still be limited to 70's era SMS tech and 80's era MMS outside from OTT apps like Messenger. The rest of the world will keep using whatever OTT service gained popularity in each particular region.

The U.S. still relies on sms, and all four major US carriers are planning to upgrade sms to rcs so it'll be fine. If people in the US haven't moved to ott they won't start now.

Yep, exactly. It's already happening with tmobile and sprint. I'm using it right now. It isn't hot air if 70% or so of tmobile and sprint users are using Android phones with rcs via their default message app in the US.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Where's the lie though?

paragraph #3

 

[Dalek]

"WhatsApp" users desperately trying to convert iMessage users, and iMessage users response:

 

[Malvolio]

iMessage is just one more way to feel special about a purchasing choice.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Considering my group of friends is split between iOS and Android, iMessage hasn't been the most useful. Also no one uses Whatsapp in the US.

 

[finalflame]

iMessage is just one more way to feel special about a purchasing choice.

Nothing special about it, in the U.S. everyone and their horse has iMessage. It's something you never even think about. Using SMS/the default texting suite in a device has been commonplace since the mid 2000s, with unlimited/large texting plans being cheap.

It's when a green bubble (SMS) shows up on an iPhone that you feel dirty and weird to be using a two decade old protocol.

 

[Malvolio]

Nothing special about it, in the U.S. everyone and their horse has iMessage. It's something you never even think about. Using SMS/the default texting suite in a device has been commonplace since the mid 2000s, with unlimited/large texting plans being cheap.

It's when a green bubble (SMS) shows up on an iPhone that you feel dirty and weird to be using a two decade old protocol.

Yup, look at you feeling special.

 

[99Luffy]

Imessage or whatsapp, at least youre not like my one friend who insists I message him with facebook messenger..

..we havent talked in months cause of that.

 

[finalflame]

Yup, look at you feeling special.

Nope, there is absolutely nothing special about owning an iPhone in the U.S. They're as common and accessible as any other phone. It's just undeniable that SMS is a janky old protocol, everyone knows this, and it's why it's getting replaced with RCS. The green bubble just often means "welp, communicating with this individual is going to mean messages get cut off every 140 chars, and I have no idea when and if my shit was delivered to them, nor can I guarantee the quality or presentation of any rich media".

 

[RionaaM]

How come nobody mentions Telegram?

It is badass. The same as Whatsapp but better.

Unfortunately, only a friend uses it and we chat on there. Everyone else and their mother is on Whatsapp, which is fine as well, I use it everyday.

I like Telegram, but it has an annoying bug where it sometimes won't push notifications until I unlock the phone. Like you, I only use it with a very tiny group of friends, everybody else uses WhatsApp.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Funny enough, I downloaded WhatsApp to check it out and my dad sent me a message from China. He's traveling for work. Had no idea he used it.

 

[ronaldthump]

It amazes me that people actually use iMessage

I used it heaps when I was on iPhone. a lot of people own iPhones. so it's actually quite wide spread

 

[The Faceless Master]

Nope, there is absolutely nothing special about owning an iPhone in the U.S. They're as common and accessible as any other phone. It's just undeniable that SMS is a janky old protocol, everyone knows this, and it's why it's getting replaced with RCS. The green bubble just often means "welp, communicating with this individual is going to mean messages get cut off every 140 chars, and I have no idea when and if my shit was delivered to them, nor can I guarantee the quality or presentation of any rich media".

if only there were a way to solve that issue that was cross compatible...

 

[VeeP]

So North America doesn't use Whatsapp? Learn something new every day. Europe wins again.

I live in US and use both Whatsapp and iMessage. It really depends on the people and friends I guess.

I know friends/cousins of mine have used Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger, iMessage, Kik, etc. iPhone's are just so common and iMessage is so easy that iMessage is the main way most of those guys communicate tho.

 

[Moses Donut]

Dumb question: If I am reading this thread correctly it sounds like one of the arguments for using something like WhatsApp is being able to message and send media to people regardless of what platform they are on, but using iMessage I am still able to send pictures, gifs, and videos to my parents and friends who are all on Android...what am I missing?

 

[TheCochese]

paragraph #3

Wut.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Wut.

m8.

 

[99Luffy]

The What's App posts always get me too. Saying "why don't US folks use what's app? Is like me asking why you aren't using Facebook Messenger or Google Hangouts. Heck, messenger is built right into Facebook even.

Google hangouts sucks and facebook messenger afaik requires facebook.

I didnt know imessage didnt show whos typing in a chat, thats awful. It really helps you to know when someone is finished their thought so you can start typing without going in between sentences.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Dumb question: If I am reading this thread correctly it sounds like one of the arguments for using something like WhatsApp is being able to message and send media to people regardless of what platform they are on, but using iMessage I am still able to send pictures, gifs, and videos to my parents and friends who are all on Android...what am I missing?

the question is what are they missing. not what are you missing.

what you send and what they receive may not always match.

 

[Arttemis]

It amazes me that people actually use iMessage

.

 

[Dalek]

the question is what are they missing. not what are you missing.

what you send and what they receive may not always match.

But that’s the recipients problem.

 

[Malvolio]

But that’s the recipients problem.

They should just download iMessage for Android, duh!

 

[Juice]

Whatsapp is better in every way so no. Texts getting cuaght in limbo between SMS and iMessage was always really annoying when I had an iPhone

Better in every way? I thought WhatsApp limited you to a single p2p encrypted device? The beauty of iMessage is that I have it on all three of my macs, my watch, my iPad, and it just works everywhere with rock solid encryption to boot.

Last I heard WhatsApp required some kind of silly tethering system just to text from a computer

 

[PAULINK]

for someone who has an iphone, I don't get it.

 

[Camoxide]

UK,most people I know just use Facebook messenger...

 

[Uno Venova]

if only there were a way to solve that issue that was cross compatible...

Android needs to get on it. it's been a shit show for too long

 

[diaspora]

Android needs to get on it. it's been a shit show for too long

Luckily a standard solution that not only does this but also is a better app all-around has been found and is being used by everyone with the US being the exception.

 

[Oxn]

Luckily a standard solution has been found and is being used by everyone with the US being the exception.

We make the standards

 

[Moses Donut]

the question is what are they missing. not what are you missing.

what you send and what they receive may not always match.

Interesting. Thanks!

 

[Dalek]

Luckily a standard solution that not only does this but also is a better app all-around has been found and is being used by everyone with the US being the exception.

“Joe, you’re not going to believe this! There’s someone in Lithuania who thinks we should change the app that we all use for Messaging!”

No one cares.