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Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite |OT| Marvel vs. Capcom: 4 Female Characters

Pompadour

Member
Edit: Oh, and DLC characters will help game sales and rentetion. I know people are like "wtf is with all this Marvel in this Season", but that shit is mad recognizable to have in your game with how big the MCU is.

That's probably the shittiest part of MvCI for me. I really don't care about Marvel characters and typically oddball, obscure characters aren't DLC because hardcore fans who'd care about these characters will buy DLC regardless. So what happens is we're just going to see popular Capcom characters, probably a bunch that didn't make it over from MvCI.

I wish Smash's Sakurai was in control of roster choices and trailers for the game. Maybe he could pitch references for the moveset. I love his dedication to capturing the essence of a character and his love of older games. He'd be a great director for this series if, you know, he couldn't touch the gameplay.

I figure the future Capcom DLC will basically be: Wesker, Vergil, Phoenix Wright, Leon Kennedy, Akuma, Felicia, and some other safe picks from their healthy franchises. I wouldn't be surprised if the Clover characters are dead for good.
 
I think casuals might have had their fill on fighting games. You've had release of IJ2, Tekken 7, SFV is still alive with dlc updates, and it's possible that people disappointed with presentation and roster are looking towards DBFZ in future instead.

The only good or this game got was from gameplay but that's not as wide spread either.
 

Pompadour

Member
No Marvel characters in a Marvel game?

Not interested.

I'd rather have MSH2, get rid of the Capcom characters.

Ugh. My dream game is MvC without the M. I don't mind Marvel because, as far as compatible properties go, they fit very well in these games. I just have no love for the characters outside nostalgia for the 90's X-Men cartoon.

I think they don't really have ideas for new characters. Like they aren't gonna add Dark Void.

Yeah, Capcom isn't pumping out the hits so they wouldn't have a ton of relevant characters to choose from. Honestly, Capcom is a less recognized name than many of their franchises so a CvC would have a name like "Street Fighter Vs. Capcom All-Stars".
 

Sesha

Member
Capcom has tons of characters that they can use and that are heavily requested. The notion that they don't have any ideas for new ones is ridiculous.

No Marvel characters in a Marvel game?

Not interested.

I'd rather have MSH2, get rid of the Capcom characters.

At the end of the year there will be 19, more than half of what a MSH2 would likely launch with.

And I'd rather we have Capcom All-Stars, Marvel All-Stars and MvC.
 

NotLiquid

Member
I'm pretty sure the B.O.W.s in story mode use Necalli's and Rashid's attacks.

Actually my first thought when seeing their moves was a mixture of what Black Panther (claw swipes) and Winter Soldier's (guns a plenty) move set is likely going to be.
 

kunonabi

Member
Is there some sort lockout for Marvel's blitz blow? During certain combos it keeps getting replaced with just an air HK.
 
If MvC has to die so I can get CvC. So be it.

But, good sir, CvC has been there the whole time...

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*shudders*
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
That won't happen. They need another franchise to boost exposure. A CvC would sell less than a regular SF game.

So what probably would happen would be something like Shonen Jump Vs. Capcom as a Switch exclusive.

Street Fighter vs Capcom or so. But I hope they wouldn't give up on the game but if sales forced them to.
 
I think casuals might have had their fill on fighting games. You've had release of IJ2, Tekken 7, SFV is still alive with dlc updates, and it's possible that people disappointed with presentation and roster are looking towards DBFZ in future instead.

The only good or this game got was from gameplay but that's not as wide spread either.
Then again the hardcore DBZ fanbase is weird. There is some civil war going on with people who like DBFZ and people who just want another Xenoverse.
 
That's probably the shittiest part of MvCI for me. I really don't care about Marvel characters and typically oddball, obscure characters aren't DLC because hardcore fans who'd care about these characters will buy DLC regardless. So what happens is we're just going to see popular Capcom characters, probably a bunch that didn't make it over from MvCI.

I wish Smash's Sakurai was in control of roster choices and trailers for the game. Maybe he could pitch references for the moveset. I love his dedication to capturing the essence of a character and his love of older games. He'd be a great director for this series if, you know, he couldn't touch the gameplay.

I figure the future Capcom DLC will basically be: Wesker, Vergil, Phoenix Wright, Leon Kennedy, Akuma, Felicia, and some other safe picks from their healthy franchises. I wouldn't be surprised if the Clover characters are dead for good.

I think SOME picks will be safe, but I don't think all of them will be. I think Capcom has to prove to their fan base that they can make interesting characters outta notherburgers. Ultron was never interesting for me but here I am doing jHP loops and shit. I have faith they'll make good functions outta BW and WS, even if I don't like their characters per say.

Once they've established themselves, they can play a little loose.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!
 

Pompadour

Member
Street Fighter vs Capcom or so. But I hope they wouldn't give up on the game but if sales forced them to.

If they couldn't make CvC happen before I don't know if they can do it now. Plus, MvCI's assets don't seem very future proof and we're nearing the end of the current gen.

I can see something being done for the Switch because the low-quality everything is less egregious on a portable, less powerful system. Not that I want to buy a Brook adapter for one game but I'd do it all the same.

Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!

Good, maybe a future revision will cater to the hardcore and make the ASW MvC style game I dreamt of. The bullshit quotient seems to low right now in DBZF.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
I think they don't really have ideas for new characters. Like they aren't gonna add Dark Void.

If they have run out of ideas for character's on the capcom side then someone has fucked up royally.

But, good sir, CvC has been there the whole time...

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*shudders*

I try to forget about this

That won't happen. They need another franchise to boost exposure. A CvC would sell less than a regular SF game.

So what probably would happen would be something like Shonen Jump Vs. Capcom as a Switch exclusive.

Why there hasn't been something like Project X Zone but as a fighter is beyond me. I know the Shonen Jump stuff would be a pain here in the US. But Namco seems to have the right to the majority so it'd have the be a joint venture I think with that.

And you still won't get Regina.

Laugh it up while you can. Her day is soon
 
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!
Dbfz looks better than the anime visually, so I don't know why they wouldn't be on board.
 

patchday

Member
CDKeys killed the game. :(

I know a lot of folks were down for a code at $28 and just gave up when CDKeys said they were all EU codes.

Yeah that was a big blow. I have all my fighting game friends on ps4 though so it made sense for me. But I can fully understand many others walking away til a sale

People would flip out if Capcom has DLC for sale exactly at launch, even with selling a character pass. It's less bad for optics.

Yeah I fully agree with this.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
I doubt we're going to see much in the form of fighting games from Capcom if this underperforms after SF5 also underperformed.

I think this is why capcom is all in on making both SFV and MVC:I "service" games.
Since with the right support you can make up for under-performing sales. I do kind of see the next MVC:I and SFV going the Tekken 7 route and reusing a lot of what was made prior to save on budget and such. I'll be surprised if SF6 is made from the ground up again.
 

patchday

Member
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!

I'm a dbz fan (all caught up on DBZ Super) and I personally cant wait for it. But I'm also a fighting game fan so I'm assuming your post excludes me :)

Yeah the Xenoverse fans probably love grinding non-stop for loot and stuff. So I can see your point.

I hated the grinding in Xenoverse 1 so bypassed Xeno 2
 

Sigmaah

Member
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!

One of my boys said this exact thing, he said he sucked at the beta and he'd rather play xenoverse...

I was disgusted.
 

Pompadour

Member
I think this is why capcom is all in on making both SFV and MVC:I "service" games.
Since with the right support you can make up for under-performing sales. I do kind of see the next MVC:I and SFV going the Tekken 7 route and reusing a lot of what was made prior to save on budget and such. I'll be surprised if SF6 is made from the ground up again.

I was fine with MvCI reusing assets when I thought that would lead to a larger roster.

SF6 reusing V's animations would also be fine since they're so well done. They would age way better than SF4's approach of being faithful to SF2's animations including how low budget they looked.
 

jett

D-Member
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!

People like what they're used to.

It's always funny seeing Dragon Ball videos with comments of people complaining it isn't 3D haha.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!

Older DBZ fans that grew up with fighters on SNES or PS1 seem to be into it


But a lot of the DB fanbase is young and grew up with the budokai tenkaichi games, so they don't see the appeal at all. they want their dbz simulation action games, not a balanced 2d fighter.
 
As much as I love this series, Marvel's influence on things have made it seem less fun. I wish they'd stick with character negotiation and nothing more. They didn't need to change the themes to "fit the characters personalities" because the classic themes already did just just. The new seems so generic. I like Ghost Rider's theme, though.

They always talk about how aware they are of what fans love in the Vs series, yet they're stripping away everything that drew people in. Thank goodness the gameplay is great.
 
Older DBZ fans that grew up with fighters on SNES or PS1 seem to be into it


But a lot of the DB fanbase is young and grew up with the budokai tenkaichi games, so they don't see the appeal at all. they want their dbz simulation action games, not a balanced 2d fighter.
For whatever it's worth, I grew up with the Budokai Tenkaichi games and fuck me if this doesn't look like the most hype DB game ever.
 

patchday

Member
I was fine with MvCI reusing assets when I thought that would lead to a larger roster.

SF6 reusing V's animations would also be fine since they're so well done. They would age way better than SF4's approach of being faithful to SF2's animations including how low budget they looked.

I'm brand new to this series basically (as many of you know havent played this since the Arcade in NA 1 so maybe MvC2?). So all this roster is brand new too me

But I can understand that frustration vets have. I know I have Pokken tournament on Wii U and not too eager to get Pokken DX on Switch cause it only adds 5 new characters. So I can totally relate! I'd be eager for Pokken DX more if I knew for sure devs would support it with DLC. So over the lon ghaul, maybe MvCI can attract some vets esp when X-men arrives
 
Dbfz looks better than the anime visually, so I don't know why they wouldn't be on board.

Because it's mainly appealing to hardcore FGC players. Also it's a 2D fighter when previous games were 3D and arena. Some DBZ fans want to fly around and want simple button prompts to turn SSJ3.
 

patchday

Member
People like what they're used to.

It's always funny seeing Dragon Ball videos with comments of people complaining it isn't 3D haha.

Xenoverse 1 was a horrid loot grinder but it nailed the 3D Fighting aspect. So yeah I totally can relate to their complaints I will fully 100% admit that
 
Several of my friends are unaware this game released, and don't even know the roster but heard nothing but "Bad roster and ugly graphics" about the game. I fear the future of the MvC series. I hope an Ultimate MvCI is in the cards to try to course correct.
 

patchday

Member
This is really what concerns me about MvC:I.
Since it was released, I don't think I've seen a single mention of the game on the PS4 and XOne Reddit communities (r/PS4 and r/XboxOne).

Did it release too soon after Destiny 2?
Did SFV'S botched release turn people away?
Did all the pre-launch negativity concerning simplified controls and Chun-Li's face keep people's wallets firmly in their pockets?

Well another factor you have to give us newbies time to finish the story. I thought it was supposed to be 1.5 hrs??? Feels like I been fighting for over 3 hours easily.

So us shatty players you must give us time to learn the ropes. We still stuck in single player cause yes we're that freakin' bad

After I'm done getting bodied in single player I'm hop online so you vets can murder me. Just be patient
 
I sincerely doubt Capcom will be dropping the game anytime soon. Like SFV, I expect the initial sales to be a bit mediocre but for it to have long legs. It's been built from the ground up with a 'games as a service' model which means they can usually offset disappointing initial sales with dlc to make it profitable in the long term.
 

Marvel

could never
Ultron and Iron man are fun. Since I barely played mvc3 the roster issue isn't annoying me so much. Though I would have liked to see the dlc characters in the main launch roster for sure.
 

smurfx

get some go again
Yeah DBZ is weird, a lot of the FGC is on board but the casual DBZ fans don't care much. A lot of them think it's some SF reskin and would rather have Xenoverse.

God damn DBZ fans don't deserve DBZF!
i think most casual dbz fans probably don't know much about it. i bet a bunch will jump on board when they start heavily advertising it. at least i hope it's advertised.
 
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