They don't. They just point them kind of near you limply and slowly deflate. That's about the same threat level as Destiny 2, as it happens
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D2 PvE is like walking through a "room full of balloons with a nail gun"
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They don't. They just point them kind of near you limply and slowly deflate. That's about the same threat level as Destiny 2, as it happens
Doctoglethorpe
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Stomping on bubble wrap is called using your super.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Damnit, this thread's title bothers me so much. Are we gonna now use D2 for Destiny 2 instead of Diablo 2?
What if I need to abbreviate Doom 2?
AnathemicOne
Banned
It's double confusing since Destiny 2 is hosted on Battle.Net.
Digital Savior
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Definitely could use a heroic modifier on missions, adventures, and strikes.
Game is still fun even when mowing down enemies. I've always been into ARPGs.
Game is still fun even when mowing down enemies. I've always been into ARPGs.
Twilight Gap
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Destiny 2 is definitely the easiest shooter I've played. The Campaign isn't punishing in any way; cover is generous and bosses have checkpoints on their health bars, so you can't even fail those. It seems designed to just hurry you along into the "meat" of the game, which is ironically very paltry as far as reward vs time investment goes.
But in a way, I am glad that the game is not challenging.The Heroic modifier was nice in Destiny 1 because you actually had special and heavy ammo to take on tougher enemies. But the last thing they should be doing is throwing more bullet sponge orange bar enemies at us to spray with auto rifles.
The best way to make the game harder was always the burn modifier. By far the most difficult thing I have done in Destiny was Arc Burn Skolas.
But in a way, I am glad that the game is not challenging.The Heroic modifier was nice in Destiny 1 because you actually had special and heavy ammo to take on tougher enemies. But the last thing they should be doing is throwing more bullet sponge orange bar enemies at us to spray with auto rifles.
The best way to make the game harder was always the burn modifier. By far the most difficult thing I have done in Destiny was Arc Burn Skolas.
Agreed. Destiny AI has this sort of (we're going to chill and miss very passively) feel to it, giving the illusion of difficulty.
It's really like the AI doesn't want to hit you. I'll sum it up in a quick game of thrones clip.
https://youtu.be/FN_U8LzEA9M?t=7m28s
It's really like the AI doesn't want to hit you. I'll sum it up in a quick game of thrones clip.
https://youtu.be/FN_U8LzEA9M?t=7m28s
D][?
Heard the tale of The Emperors New Clothes?
The whole Destiny franchise is like that. It's like... everyone fooling themselves that these are some kind of giant, lore filled, deep games with "best shooting ever". While in reality they are like halo coop with hubs and repeating levels. I'm honestly baffled so many people praise these moderate games.
The whole Destiny franchise is like that. It's like... everyone fooling themselves that these are some kind of giant, lore filled, deep games with "best shooting ever". While in reality they are like halo coop with hubs and repeating levels. I'm honestly baffled so many people praise these moderate games.
BarringGaffner
Member
thought the same until trying Nightfall yesterday. I am only 245 but was playing with 290's.. that was way, way more difficult than d1arc Skolas.
But yeah campaign is ridiculously easy.
AcademicSaucer
Member
They really want people to reach the end game content
It's because it's not a moderate game, They are fantastic games. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean they are just moderate.
Holy shit you're clueless and very ignorant
And for half the end game content you need to get your wallet out again.
I mean you can have your own opinion, but saying "everyones fooling themselves".. yea homie you're pretty ignorant
Interficium
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I too am shocked that a great quantity of people like something that you personally dislike. What a horrible state of affairs.
explain?
cripterion
Member
God those replies, this game really has it's fan army. Not even bothering to debunk his statement you go on and say the game is fantastic? How about addressing the concerns in the OP? Unless walking in a room full of ballons with a nailgun is indeed the pinnacle of gaming.
Seriously, having played the first one and the beta and from the footage of AJ's review, the AI is really basic. They definitely need to be made more a threat to the player.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Word on the street is, it's selling somewhere around 10-20% below their expectations
Well saying shit like "everyones fooling themselves this game has this and that" is honestly ignorant. Oh no i must be a part of the "fan army" because I defended the game from a shitpost that has nothing to do with the OP's topic.
I already addressed the OP's concerns in another post. I prefer it this way because I love playing games like WoW, Diablo, and Path of Exile where you can level up easily and mow down enemies. All the difficult shit should be saved for endgame, which it is.
Honestly, WoW has been just as boring from the moment they conceded to hardcore fans wanting to have an army of alt characters and gave them a flat progression in their design change. Part of a reason many still miss the vanilla days.
The PVE tutorial should be easy, but once a player grasps the basics and is let loose into the game world, what is even the point of such a dull progression? To sleepwalk through content that lacks any urgency or skill threshold? To just spam the same rotation and ignore most situational skills entirely? To pay more attention to something on a second screen? How does that prepare anyone for the challenges far into the endgame?
That's not ignorance. Many people love the game, and im fine with that, but how it's hailed as being grand, deep and have gunplay that sets it apart is just not true. The game isn't huge, the story and character progression isn't deep and the gunplay isn't vasty different than its peers.
My post wasn't even about liking/not-liking. It was about specific aspects of destiny being presented as being much more grand than they objectively are, compared to other games
Then I went on and said that *I* cant understand why people love it so much.
But yay, defence force assemble bro
The gunplay is what makes Destiny so great. Sorry you didn't like it.. but games aren't meant to be for everyone. The game is pretty huge actually with the worlds in part 2.. and I don't think destiny was ever hailed for a "deep story" and character progression is pretty great.. just like an ARPG, you loot gear and get stronger.
Just because you don't see something as "great" doesn't mean others shouldn't.
Destiny 3 is going to be a big step up if this is true
Literally Did all heroics by myself today for the milestone reward on titan. Not hard at all.
Yeah replies like yours and the one I replied to really shows ignorance.
your posts have been complete ignorance because you keep downplaying something doesn't make it fact.
But WHAT about the gunplay? It's not speedy and varied and vertical like doom. It's not a cover shooter with well designed encounters like CoD (albiet not that well designed). It's not super fluent like Warframe. It doesn't have millions of guns with different feels like Borderlands. It doesn't have varied encounters with physics like hl2.
It's just shooting slow-strafing baddies over and over and over. Pop the head for great effect. Throw your single nade every minute. Use your super small arsenal of abilities or your basic kill-em-all in flashy style during super charged. The guns within one type are extremely similar and there arent many types.
Just like the Emperors Clothes, no one can say what is actually good, its just the same "its the bezt, sry not sry you dont get it".
Well for starters the author fails to understand that damage is normalized once you are beyond an enemy's base power level. It doesn't matter that he is "over-leveled" for a particular mission because this game (and Destiny 1 for that matter) don't really bestow a particular advantage for being over an enemy's power level. He claims that having an over-leveled character is some kind of game design problem when in fact the game has been designed to account for over-leveling.
Beyond that, this isn't really the section of the game that's meant to be difficult or challenging. There's plenty of opportunity to challenge yourself later in group activities. Or you can just do the Public Events by yourself and have quite a challenge on your hand.
Double Donut
Member
Campaign difficulty felt alright to me for the most part but the final boss was where I went "okay this is way too easy".
D1 final boss was intense as hell, D2's should have been even more extreme. I mean come on,
I was SO pumped when the fight started. But then I breezed it.
D1 final boss was intense as hell, D2's should have been even more extreme. I mean come on,
a huge Cabal using YOUR OWN powers?!
You didn't solo any cabal heroic events at the low levels they're made available. Like level 10 or 11.
PC version probably the cause?
Maybe its the the way the guns look, how they sound when they shoot, how responsive they are, the sound of bullets hitting the enemies, the different variety of guns in the game, how responsive melee and jump mechanics are, sub class weapons and skills, the crit sounds when you kill something and the way shit just explodes. It is a VERY fluid game. Theres a ton more reasons, but this topic isn't about that. Just like you have no interest in Destiny, I have no interest in any of those games you listed in your list because i find them all dull.
Where did I claim I did? Doing challenges that are vastly above your power level are going to be challenging. The topic is on content that's at your level not being challenging for 85%of the PvE game.
Dark_castle
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Greedings
Member
I LOVED Destiny 1. I couldn't tell you why, I just think the feedback on kills was really satisfying.
Destiny 2...I'm kinda bored of it already. I don't think it's a very good shooter, there's nothing really there. It's slow, the abilities are pretty homogeneous and it isn't particularly challenging.
I am sorry I thought it was Diablo 2 ... cos it is really like walking thru a room of balloons with a nail gun as an Amazon
Duels outside Rogue Encampment let's go
Interficium
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I don't think you know what objectively means, bro.
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