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DOOM (Holiday 2017) and Wolfenstein II (2018) Announced for Nintendo Switch
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ExigentContact
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A caveat mentioned in the video is that he only got to play it in undocked mode. I doubt there's enough grunt opened up with docked to bring it to 60, but maybe it'll at least lock it at 30 and add some detail?
JonnyDBrit
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It's worth noting that while the game is at 30 FPS, Richard was still really impressed by the Switch port. Mostly because while trying to run it on comparable hardware, in some places more powerful even while severely gimped, he couldn't get it to match the Switch's apparent performance. He explicitly stresses that, for what it's running on, it looks to be a good port - particularly since they only got to run it in handheld mode.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm still on the 'not entirely sure' train, even if I may have to settle for 30 FPS.
Maybe it's still being optimized, maybe they'll go for unlocked, maybe (most likely now) it'll be 30 FPS. I'll wait a bit longer until there's more official footage and impressions, but I have to say, the jump from 30fps to 60fps at the end of the video hurt a bit.
Equanimity
Member
Ok fair enough.
Well, I'll settle for 30 in Wolfenstein personally, but for Doom - 60 is more important imo, since the game has much more of an arcade feeling.
Don't get me wrong, I want 60 in all of my games if possible, but for a story heavy game, I'm willing to accept 30 every once in a while (on consoles, that is)
Well I was close. Kinda wish DF posted later cause now I bet other journalists are just gonna reference them instead of being vague or wrong themselves.
manueldelalas
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They played 40 minutes of the Switch version, but they don't have direct footage.
mavericktopgun
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The Mainstream Audience doesn't even know what framerate is.
Still day 1 for me.
What if it's 720p30 in portable mode and 720p60 in docked mode?
Still day 1 for me.
What if it's 720p30 in portable mode and 720p60 in docked mode?
Jesus christ you guys are overly dramatic. It's still a handheld through and through, it's no miracle machine lol.
SinCityAssassin
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Why would they even remove the video.
Wow...
JonnyDBrit
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Maybe embargo didn't technically lift yet?
TheMoon
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Maybe the embargo is still up?
The article was also removed (It was around 11:00 am CEST when I found it)
mavericktopgun
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I think it will be 60 fps in the end. Lol
Fair enough. I don't think it's fair game to talk about resolution comparing the direct footage to native PS4 without making it entirely clear that they didn't have uncompressed footage for that.
Maybe they posted it early by accident.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Yeah I don't think the embargo is actually up. Of course I had to pick that moment to play some Mario x Rabids instead of browse Neogaf though. Goddamnit.
a) He specifically said he wasn't confirming a 30hz target, just telling people to keep their expectations in check
b) Even if he was making that claim, why would you assume this was correct?
a) He specifically said he wasn't confirming a 30hz target, just telling people to keep their expectations in check
b) Even if he was making that claim, why would you assume this was correct?
I interpreted it as such, because he couldn't specify either way given the embargo. So in my mind he was never going to specifically say what his comment was referring to.
He also made a very specific comment e.g setting high expectations over the framerate. Perhaps I did read too much into it.
Either way Digital Foundry's recent video confirming 30fps has definitely deflated any hype I had, although I'll still be keeping an eye on actual footage and reviews etc.
Bjoern the Smexy
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Heh, so what if it's 30fps undocked.
Do we know if it's also 30fps docked? This is probably even more important.
It still wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
It's Doom on the go. This is the deal I'm going for.
Do we know if it's also 30fps docked? This is probably even more important.
It still wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
It's Doom on the go. This is the deal I'm going for.
It seems the answer is "yes", at least from what I am reading in the related thread.
TheMoon
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we don't really know anything still, 30fps is a very informed guess, not a number revealed from the horses mouth. all impressions are handheld mode. beyond that, we know nothing.
TheMoon
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Have there been framerate-halved games on Switch between modes?
Also, if it were, why would they demo a 30fps version when they had it running at 60 docked? If that were the case, they'd make that a bullet point.
It was just a joke, at least on my side. Didn't consider setting /s tag would be that important.
It's a 2016 DOOM on a portable device, I'm still in day1. Also not gonna jump on the Wolfenstein II train until Switch release.
I don't know. Maybe the opportunity wasn't there. I also didn't see the DF video, so i don't know the context. But i can imagine if they couldn't lock 60 in handheld mode (say the framerate was 40-50 unlocked) and chose to lock it at 30 instead, that it might be possible to squeeze out 60 in docked mode. Probably grasping at straws here, but stranger things have happened i guess.
That thread is on the front lines of the console war son.
I've seen some shit out there.
The battle is raging.
peanutbutterlatte
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Don't even care. The reactions are pretty entertaining though!
No matter how scaleable the engine, it was doubtful to run without looking like mud at 60fps.
Day 1 for me, hopefully somewhere will be selling below £60 though...
No matter how scaleable the engine, it was doubtful to run without looking like mud at 60fps.
Day 1 for me, hopefully somewhere will be selling below £60 though...
Oh my bad, just a lot of reactions between this and the DF thread lol.
The game was only playable in handheld mode. That's why there will be no direct feed video captures once the embargo lifts in a couple of hours.
30fps is a bit disappointing, but not entirely surprising. If it's a solid 30 I'll still pick it up (and it should be, given the variable resolution). Given that a variable resolution solution is already in there, ideally they'd give players the option to play at 60fps and take the extra resolution hit, but I guess they just don't want to put out a game running at such low res, even as an option. Alternatively it could get CPU limited by that point.
The decision to use an outside studio to handle the port is interesting. Most likely motivated by the fact that id's engine team have been so busy on Wolfenstein for the last few months. I wonder if id will properly integrate Switch support into the engine for Wolfenstein, though, as if Bethesda plan on using the engine for more projects in the future, and they also plan on continuing support for Switch (both of which seem likely), then it makes more sense to have it as a main build platform than relying on ad-hoc ports.
Edit: Meant to post this in the other thread, but I suppose it works here too.
The decision to use an outside studio to handle the port is interesting. Most likely motivated by the fact that id's engine team have been so busy on Wolfenstein for the last few months. I wonder if id will properly integrate Switch support into the engine for Wolfenstein, though, as if Bethesda plan on using the engine for more projects in the future, and they also plan on continuing support for Switch (both of which seem likely), then it makes more sense to have it as a main build platform than relying on ad-hoc ports.
Edit: Meant to post this in the other thread, but I suppose it works here too.
Gotdatmoney
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None. The CPU runs the same in dock and undocked modes. You aren't doubling the framerate just because you dock the system.
Skittzo0413
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I missed a bit of a roller coaster it seems. Anyone know when the embargo is actually up? I definitely trust DF on this but it'll be kinda funny to see what other outlets say.
Hopefully we'll see some off screen footage of handheld mode too.
Hopefully we'll see some off screen footage of handheld mode too.
In about 90min.
Gotdatmoney
Member
People are like freaking out that the game runs at 30fps. It's crazy. If that's a deal breaker for you I can def understand. But people are saying no port shoild exist if they can't get it to 60fps. That's insanity.
Skittzo0413
Member
Are you saying that Gaf is overreacting about a video game's technical performance??
Anyway, I'm one of those crazy people who need to see two videos side by side to determine if they're 60 or 30 so this won't bother me at all. I'm sure a lot of the "no buy" people will also change their mind once it actually comes around to launch time.
Thanks, sir!
Jaded Alyx
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Is it common for Switch games to only be shown off in handheld mode at such events?
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