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Gaf we need to talk about Gotham, the most visually interesting superhero show
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Mr. Poolman
Member
Damn, that is obscure.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Bruce is at least 16~ now,
Harvey Dent is the only big issue but the show ditched him so quickly(Harvey and Montoya were literally the worst part of this series).
-Penguin(Oswald Cobblepot) kind of always was older I presumed? So yea he'll be about a decade or so older than Batman(he seems to be mid 20's on the show.
-Selina Kyle. (Catwoman) is Bruce's age on the show, a young teen.
-Riddler(Edward Nygma), like penguin, is in the early throes of his career pre-villain persona(at least where I have watched up to). He probably is not meant to be much older than Bruce but in this timeline he is I suppose.
-Mr. Freeze, has not been introduced yet in what I've watched(maybe in back half of S2 or 3)
-Joker is not officially revealed. Lots of red herrings with this 'Jerome' character, but I think he is a mere stand-in and not the real deal. (Unless I am unaware of this changing in later seasons)
Baraka Obama
Banned
Wasn't Michael Chiklis a cop in that show? He looks like a pirate cosplayer.
I remember one of my friends telling me how weird this show is but I just wrote it of as formulaic fox shlock looks more than that.
I remember one of my friends telling me how weird this show is but I just wrote it of as formulaic fox shlock looks more than that.
dead souls
Member
Great show. I didn't enjoy most of the first season, but once it realized what type of crazy show it should be it's been a wild ride.
Just_myles
Member
Legion is way more visually interesting
That being said, I am greatly in love about how Gotham drinks from EVERY SINGLE MOMENT IN BATMAN's CARREER from nolan to silver age. I am impressed a gorilla still didn't appeared in the episodes I watched
I agree. Legion is on one.
Gotham is trying way too hard, and frankly it's embarrassing. Also let's not pretend that proto-bats doesn't look like a certain character from a very popular Tarantino movie.
I'll allow it.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
He was the police chief for about 2 seasons
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Best Riddler
Best Alfred
Second Best Penguin
Best Gordon
Best Harvey
Second Best Joker
Best Alfred
Second Best Penguin
Best Gordon
Best Harvey
Second Best Joker
Glass Shark
Banned
so that guy they swore up and down wasn't going to be the Joker ended up being the Joker? cool
Baraka Obama
Banned
Dude doesn't know how to pick roles for one
dead souls
Member
Gotham is trying too hard compared to Legion?
Give me a break. I struggle to think of a show I've watched in recent years that screams trying too hard more than Legion. In a just world it and Fargo season three would force Noah Hawley into retirement, because he's clearly lost it.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Fans liked him wayyyyy too much for it not too be dragged further or changed entirely.
He literally died at the end of his first arc early in S2,
they revived him in S3.
they revived him in S3.
I suspect performance quality and fan reaction ended up making him stick around.
They actually canceled plans to kill him season 3.
http://nerdist.com/gotham-cameron-monaghan-joker-alternative-ending/
I've never been a fan of the "he's not the Joker, but he's the INSPIRATION for the Joker" angle anyway.
Discotheque
Banned
Loving it once it got into it's groove
It's more comparable to the camp of the Burton movies than the Schumacher ones
Plus the relationship between young Bruce and Selina is cute. Alfred and Bruce are great together as well as are any scenes between Gordon and Bullock and Penguin
It's more comparable to the camp of the Burton movies than the Schumacher ones
Plus the relationship between young Bruce and Selina is cute. Alfred and Bruce are great together as well as are any scenes between Gordon and Bullock and Penguin
TheGreatDirector
Banned
The show is actually one of the visually eye catching shows on today. Every episode they do something weird or quirky with the shot composition or colors. They've taken inspiration from Burton, Schumacher, Nolan, and B:TAS. It's honestly one of the best visual depictions of Gotham outside of the comics.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Honestly Jerome might be my favorite live action Joker,
He is a near perfect balance of the 3 main Jokers.
Vermillion
Banned
I'll always say this - they should have done it in modern Gotham. Because ultimately, you can't make Gotham as crazy as it eventually gets *without* Batman.
So they ended up relying on silly "proto-whoever" villains. And ultimately, they decided they couldn't do the show without the Bat.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
What I've seen of Gotham is hilariously briliant. Is it garbage sometimes? Sure. But it's also fucking bonkers in a way that I can only respect.
Plus, Gotham City itself is incredibly well realized.
Plus, Gotham City itself is incredibly well realized.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
And then it getting punched off again.
Gary Oldman is still the best Gordon. Donal Logue is excellent as Harvey Bullock though.
Anyways, can we admit that Gotham's Scarecrow design looks kinda awesome?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
'member when he was in that low rent Fantastic Four show on ABC? lol
I think his career might've blew up a few years too early. He got all that acclaim for The Shield when #PeakCableTV was in its infancy. Now if you put on a performance like that on cable, you'll get an instant career boost.
Goggins went straight from The Shield to Justified, where he continued to show off his chops, which led to getting work with Tarantino and so on and so on. Plus, Chiklis got to the superhero game with Fantastic Four a few years too early. That kinda exposure + an award winning turn on a cable show means so much more these days.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Well
(Major spoilers S1-S3!!!)
Court of Owls - is mostly wiped out
Riddler - is frozen in the ice of the "Iceberg Lounge"
proto-Joker - was actually killed by the big bad of his season, later revived
Azrael - was killed by Penguin and Cyrus Gold
Harvey Dent - was written out
Ra's - went back into the shadows to spy on Bruce
Penguin - is running a legitimate enterprise....
Riddler - is frozen in the ice of the "Iceberg Lounge"
proto-Joker - was actually killed by the big bad of his season, later revived
Azrael - was killed by Penguin and Cyrus Gold
Harvey Dent - was written out
Ra's - went back into the shadows to spy on Bruce
Penguin - is running a legitimate enterprise....
you know this is not true ._.
Discotheque
Banned
Goggins would sadly be in career hell too if it wasn't for Tarantino. I feel like after hateful eight Hollywood started to finally take notice of the guy. That's when he started popping up in other stuff
Just change Second Best Penguin to Best Penguin and I agree. Such a great show.
Legion is way more visually interesting
The style in just one of those episodes is more than Gotham has ever had.
But you want it to be.....the mental image is just too funny
The style in just one of those episodes is more than Gotham has ever had.
Legion does have a great style, the trouble is watching it and wondering what the heck is going on before turning it off in frustration.
That being said, Gotham has this energy and nihilistic bent to it that makes me wonder why people haven't moved out of the city in fear yet. I personally think it's solid entertainment, but there aren't many variations in the story beyond "Gordon is a badass cop who's living on the edge", "Bruce and Alfred doing some stuff", and "look at how many Batman references we can throw in". I mean, Gotham's a fun show, but it sticks to being a pastiche of the Batman Returns aesthetic and that gets boring.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Well technically Two-Face better hurry or he will be,
Harvey Dent's actor is going on 40.
Two-Face won't work old like Penguin and Riddler could.
Bruce is about 15 right? Give him anothe 15 before year one, sounds about right. Dent will be almost retiring age
Yeah, fuck all of that, and Batboy twice.
Bruce's actor is almost 17 if you can believe that. He's also now taller than most of the adult actors.
Personally, I'm okay with Bruce learning how to be a vigilante at 16-17.
In Batman Beyond, Terry McGinnis became Batman at 16-years-old. Robin and Batgirl were teens when they first started fighting crime.