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Dragon Ball Super |OT9| Genki-Drama
- Thread starter ArchedThunder
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Astral Dog
Member
I wonder how Zamasu could beat Jiren in the Future
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Are the episodes going up later on streaming places? I know it's supposed to be an hour after it airs but it's also supposed count as two separate episodes.
I love this!Found em.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The Toei website mentions in his bio that
his power is in the same realm as the GoDs.
NeonZ
Member
He stated several times in the anime that the Zero Mortals Plan would be finished that very day or as soon as they were done with Earth. So, although it's not stated directly he killed absolutely everyone outside of Earth, that gloating suggested it.
RocknRola
Member
We're almost there boys! The Hype Train isn't stopping for anyone now!
What he said was that the Zero Mortal Plan was reaching its final stage after becoming Merged Zamasu. It is left vague if he really killed everyone outside of Earth, but he did say he killed countless mortals. So he wasn't just screwing around in U7.
Seducing him as Goku Black.
LSauchelli
Member
Maybe he thought the other universes would be a piece of cake after he dealt with the Z warriors. From what we know, Veggeto Blue is somewhere close to Beerus, and Jiren (or someone from universe 4) is in the same ballpark of power. And since there's no evidence that suggests that he has a time limit, Jiren would've squashed Zamasu.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
He didn't. He went around killing the Kais and by extension automatically killing all the god of destructions whose lives are tied to the lives of the kais, and then of course their angels go into a form of stasis where they are inactive.
There's absolutely no way Zamasu's Zero Mortals plan would have succeeded with the likes of Jiren around in universe 11. He was simply biting off a whole lot more than he could chew. He focused on Universe 7 once he killed off all the other gods, believing Universe 7 to be the most important universe to wipe out.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Immortality.
Unless you have infinite stamina or a sealing technique like Mafuba you are fucked.
Lucky Seven
Banned
Goku is going to let his guard down, isn't he.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Considering what Jiren is capable of, Zamasu, immortal or no, would stand absolutely no chance. Zamasu is an insect to someone such as Jiren. Also we don't know if Jiren possesses the power to wipe out someone's entire existence like a god of destruction can.
tearsofash
Member
wait, was universe 12 a thing?
Undead Fantasy
Member
The power difference doesn't matter at all. Jiren can have a power level of infinity but if his stamina drops then his power will too and Zamasu will eventually kill him.
Hakai can't kill an inmortal.
Not participating in the tournament
Why not
It erases your existence doesn't it?
NeonZ
Member
It's mentioned that it's "coming to its head" during their lodge talk.
They say that once they get rid of the Saiyans they can easily kill all remaining mortals (episode 62).
Merged Zamasu also says that the Zero Mortals Plan will be completed that very day and that once all life on Earth is eliminated the celebration for the world of the gods begins (episode 65). But, yeah, it was left explicitly vague, although they also clearly wanted to give a sense of tension and that Goku and the others were the only ones remaining in his path, although without making a definitive statement.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
No zeno's power is something different
ArchedThunder
Banned
Manga Merged Zamasu, yet. Anime Merged Zamasu's power is purposely left vague and he was within the power range of Vegito Blue. We also have both Gowasu and Shin saying that they never felt a power anywhere near Merged Zamasu and Vegeta said the same thing. Vegetan and Shin have some idea about Beerus' power and Gowasu who is far wiser and knowing then both of them was shocked by Merged Zamasu.
So saying that Merged Zamasu is an insect to Jiren is really based on nothing. Also, Haki has limits. It doesn't run on No-Limit Fallacy.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Both these head movements are different from each other and I don't like looking at either
SenjutsuSage
Banned
It seemed as if it was going to kill Zamasu in the manga when Goku used it. I don't think that has been proven to be true just yet. We know Zeno's power is on a whole other level, but a God of Destruction's Hakai is something more special than simple physical destruction. It is the practical erasing of an existence altogether. It seems the kind of thing which would kill even an immortal since I don't believe Hakai attempts to kill by normal means that an immortal would be immune to.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Beerus himself said he can't kill Future Zamasu.
Never take the manga seriously
NeonZ
Member
Beerus in the manga outright said his technique can't kill an immortal like Zamasu in the meeting they had after the battle. Remember, Zamasu had immortality, not invincibility. He also was ripped apart by beams and regenerated just fine. Just because the technique worked and was reducing him to sand doesn't mean he wouldn't regenerate anyway. Even Buu regenerated from vapor before.
Sounds like you take the anime too seriously to me.
Beerus in the manga had doubts that he could kill an immortal with Haki and his word means more than Goku's in this case. Why do you think Whis said to seal Future Zamasu if Future Beerus could just erased him?
WELL THE IDEA IS THAT
Self-Movement Technique can help you with your guard being down and your body reacts before your mind can catch up
The episode is going to be great because of several factors
- Kickass Goku vs. Jiren action
- Goku getting his fucking ASS BEAT
- Reactions from the crew about Jiren's ki
- Reactions from the crew about Goku's limitbreak
- Reactions from Jiren from Goku's limitbreak
- Any other hints at future fights
- Anyone who gets knocked out the ring simply by Jiren's ki
- Toppo's reactions
- Vegeta completely losing it because Goku just never stops climbing
- Zeno's going WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I could go on
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I can't take this argument seriously since I think the manga has plenty of great ideas.
These arguments, however, seem to settle it. Hakai wouldn't have finished the job after all.
The Silver
Member
TheRealTalker
Banned
lol this is beautiful
freeza's head jerk reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLoTA6yICc
It's the one thing this arc has consistently been building up.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Aww, Shantsa is so cute in his character design.
The hype train is in full force for me! Can't wait!
For the 10th time in the ToP probably lol.
sleverfunk
Member
Fuck i was so hyped that I woke thinking it was sunday.
He's ready for the final fight.Aww, Shantsa is so cute in his character design.
Aww, Shantsa is so cute in his character design.
The true final boss. Jiren was just a massive fakeout.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
This year's Monaka
TheRealTalker
Banned
Aww, Shantsa is so cute in his character design.
look at those clenched fist
many lives were taken away with those
Man, thats the thing Im most looking forward too.
That's even more beautiful! Did any other version have a "native language" moment?
At this point, it's gone past a joke. I expect he actually will be one of the final fighters.
