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I wear earplugs to the movies now

Fuck bro I can't read posts like this.

haha dont worry, i was being slightly over dramatic. humans are superb at adapting, and i've learned to live with it. i listen to tons of music (trying to keep the volume reasonable) and work in a busy environment with so many distractions that i dont normally notice it. it doesnt drive me crazy, i wont let it.

but still i would do anything for a cure, there's gotta be some way.. stemcells or something.
 

louiedog

Member
A theater near me used to have this problem sometimes. I remember seeing a couple of movies and the volume would become unbearable in certain scenes. I don't remember it being an issue with an action movie I saw there like 2 years ago, but I mostly stick to a different theater these days which has never been a problem.
 
I saw Dunkirk in imax and it was not even that loud to the point where I need to cover my ears. Sounded rather normal to me and I have good hearing.
 
Blade Runner wasn't too loud and I was pretty close to the speakers

Dunkirk had me cover my ears and I was pretty far back. That movie needs more than earplugs though, a sleep mask would be handy
 

spyshagg

Should not be allowed to breed
I wore heavy duty ear plugs to Blade runner Imax. Sound was so strong you could still feel your ears "scratching" in the low frequency sounds (bass).

I did made the mistake of forgetting them for Dunkirk. Never again.


Also, if there are regulations, they are not being obeyed.
 

NotSelf

Member
Yep I took my nephew to see Guardians of the Galaxy this summer and I just wanted to walk out within the first 5 minutes I even found the the voice of the actors extremely piercing.
 

silenttwn

Member
I have a hard time hearing the dialogue in Nolan movies at the theater ever since Dark Knight Rises. He mixes his movies waaaay too loud.
 
The Bladerunner comments are interesting cause I saw that in IMAX on release in the BFI and didn't feel like it was oppressively loud.

I mean it wasn't quiet but it wasn't uncomfortable either.
 
This is why haven't been back to AMC Lincoln Square IMAX since 2012. I had to schedule a visit with an ENT soon after.
I haven't seen a Dolby Atmos movie since the Martian but I'll definitely bring a SPL meter with me for Thor: Ragnarok.
 
I went to see Spider Man Homecoming at one of these 'Dolby Cinema @ AMC' theaters and felt like my ears were gonna get blown out. I don't think I'm ever going in one of those theaters again. I would say it ruined the movie. ...Seats were nice though. Haha.
 
I love it loud. LOVE it.

Went to the IMAX dome in Charlotte last month and saw Dunkirk, it was amazing how good it sounded.

I want to feel the vibrations. The sound is half the movie for me.
 

louiedog

Member
I love it loud. LOVE it.

Went to the IMAX dome in Charlotte last month and saw Dunkirk, it was amazing how good it sounded.

I want to feel the vibrations. The sound is half the movie for me.

You can feel the sound without ear splitting volume. I also love sound and find it to be important to enjoying a movie, just not necessarily by making it louder.

To me throwing the volume way, way up to to enjoy the sound is similar to increasing the brightness because you like the image quality. Just because they're related doesn't make it an improvement.
 
You can feel the sound without ear splitting volume. I also love sound and find it to be important to enjoying a movie, just not necessarily by making it louder.

To me throwing the volume way, way up to to enjoy the sound is similar to increasing the brightness because you like the image quality. Just because they're related doesn't make it an improvement.

Incorrect.

I love uncompressed, loud sound from high quality speakers. I set up concerts with my dad and know what goes into a good speaker, amp, sound board, digital sound processor... etc. My home system reflects this with Cerwin Vega speakers and a 450 watt sub. I love my 7.1 setup and I love a movie theater who actually gives a shit about good sound.

It's not just throwing the volume way up. It's more than that.

It's hearing every speck of sound clearly and evenly but also having it loud enough to rumble.

I have huge respect for sound engineers and designers. This is why is have copious Blu Rays... you can't get that sound off a stream.
 

louiedog

Member
Incorrect.

I love uncompressed, loud sound from high quality speakers. I set up concerts with my dad and know what goes into a good speaker, amp, sound board, digital sound processor... etc. My home system reflects this with Cerwin Vega speakers and a 450 watt sub. I love my 7.1 setup and I love a movie theater who actually gives a shit about good sound.

It's not just throwing the volume way up. It's more than that.

It's hearing every speck of sound clearly and evenly but also having it loud enough to rumble.

I have huge respect for sound engineers and designers. This is why is have copious Blu Rays... you can't get that sound off a stream.

Then I don't think you're talking about the same thing that this thread is.

I've been to theaters where my ears hurt and I have a headache because they turn it up too loud. That's different. It's not typical. Before they went 100% 3D (but are fortunately back off again now) I was going to the IMAX at least once a month and didn't ever experience it there, but I have at other theaters.
 

Synless

Member
I can't stand theaters anymore because of this. I don't know what person decided that cranking the volume to pain levels was ever good for "immersion". I won't even go to theaters anymore.
 
The sound design was the crowning achievement in Dunkirk, I wouldn't dilute that experience with earplugs. I suppose I could see the case you're making though. If my hearing was overly sensitive, I would imagine it doing quite a number.
 
Are most of these sound complaints from American cinemas? Anyone here see Dunkirk in IMAX in the UK?

I'm just curious if it's an American thing
 
Then I don't think you're talking about the same thing that this thread is.

I've been to theaters where my ears hurt and I have a headache because they turn it up too loud. That's different. It's not typical. Before they went 100% 3D (but are fortunately back off again now) I was going to the IMAX at least once a month and didn't ever experience it there, but I have at other theaters.

I've been to "loud" theaters where the sound was bad but it was loud. I can see why it's offending but my ears adjust to the volume.

Some people's preferences are different I guess...

I guess it helped that I lived on or near a base all my life. The jets kind of lifted the threshold for me, maybe?
 

navii

My fantasy is that my girlfriend was actually a young high school girl.
Last time I was at a cinema in Sydney to see an action film I noticed tiny blue LEDs light up on the walls of the cinema as the sounds got loud. I guess they were speaker lights. These were really distracting to me.
 

Sulik2

Member
I've been to "loud" theaters where the sound was bad but it was loud. I can see why it's offending but my ears adjust to the volume.

Some people's preferences are different I guess...

I guess it helped that I lived on or near a base all my life. The jets kind of lifted the threshold for me, maybe?

The threshold doesn't get lifted, it just means your hearing has been damaged.
 
I wore heavy duty ear plugs to Blade runner Imax. Sound was so strong you could still feel your ears "scratching" in the low frequency sounds (bass).

I did made the mistake of forgetting them for Dunkirk. Never again.


Also, if there are regulations, they are not being obeyed.
The reference sound level is calibrated with a single speaker, so with IMAX or Atmos where there is a bajillion of them I can see it becoming super loud.
That, and sound mixes being super loud.
That said, I saw Blade Runner in regular 2D but in a good cinema (Great sound, sharp bass, great image quality, on the best seat) and while fairly loud at times it wasn't bothersome but quite satisfactory. Had it been a bit quieter I'd have preferred it, but it was within my acceptance range. Interstellar and the original Kingsman were worse.
 

Horp

Member
Yep. Went to imax in stockholm and it was just crazy. I have been to rammstein and many other loud bands but this was almost louder. And all these loud crackling explosion sounds all the time... fuck that noise (pun intended).
 

Weevilone

Member
I have hearing loss and tinnitus, especially in my left ear. It pretty much can't do any high frequencies anymore.

i got some custom musician's plugs from Westone, using Etymotics centers for -15dB reduction. Those are about right for the movies, but you can get -9 (really intended for playing orchestra or such). The reduction bit is easy to swap out. The frequency response is flat and you don't get that weird head reverb when you talk. It's easy to have a conversation wearing the -15's.

Hearing loss sucks, and somehow we've decided louder is better. I really wish I had taken care of mine better, but even with the plugs it's easy to accidentally get into a situation where additional damage can occur. I went to a "piano bar" recently and it wound up being a live band blasting in one room, and rap blasting in the attached room too. It was an event I couldn't dodge and I didn't have the plugs handy at the start.. definitely got some additional damage. Once the damage starts, you've used your cushion and it's all downhill from there.

I go to a lot of Blues NHL games and they've redone the sound system. The home opener was so loud that I was ringing even after using the -15's.. I have ordered -25dB for going forward.. idiots.

yeah people just dont seem to get this. it can drive you mad.. i have had somewhat mild tinnitus for about 15 years now and even though its not as bad as for some people, its still REALLY discomforting when i think about it too much. the fact that it has never stopped for even one second since the early 00s, and will probably never stop until i die and most likely will get worse as i age and expose myself more and more to overly-loud movies and music, and traffic etc... just ugh :( for the love of everything that is good someone please invent some new treatments!

I've been in a spot where I was borderline suicidal with my tinnitus. It's the only time I've ever taken anti-depressants, and it took me forever to kick them. It was right when it first started and I was trying to deal with the fact that I knew it was permanent and I'd never experience quiet again. I didn't want to work, spend time with my family, nothing.. just wanted to not be conscious. I'd take showers until the hot water was gone b/c the water masked the noise.

I'm trying to cope with some recent worsening currently, but it's mostly the hearing loss that is getting to me. Stuff on TV or whatever is the same, but things I'm extremely familiar with like the voices of my wife and kids... it's not the same. They sound like they are muffled, a touch like I'm talking to them with something stuffed in my ears. My wife is having problems too, but she would never wear plugs. Now she needs $6k worth of hearing aids in her 40's.

People should take it seriously, it's no joke.. and you aren't superman.

I spent $300+ on my plugs, but I hear these are excellent. I'd want -15dB for most clubs, loud movies, etc. I recommend -25dB for concerts and similar, unless you are near the speakers.. then max you can get (and it'll make stuff sound shitty).

https://www.earasers.net/

Edit: Sorry so long, something I've been thinking about too much lately.
 

grumble

Member
I was going to blast you as being an old man but then you used Dunkirk as an example and agree 100% with that one, saw that in IMAX and that actually hurt my ears too.

Blasting someone because they want to protect their hearing is foolish. People have NO IDEA how bad hearing damage is getting now. Most people will have major hearing loss by early middle age. It is a legitimate crisis.
 

spyshagg

Should not be allowed to breed
I've been to "loud" theaters where the sound was bad but it was loud. I can see why it's offending but my ears adjust to the volume.

Some people's preferences are different I guess...

I guess it helped that I lived on or near a base all my life. The jets kind of lifted the threshold for me, maybe?

yes, downwards (your going deaf). You are not superman. keep it up and you'll see. Listen to your peers in this thread.
 

ShowDog

Member
I don’t know about since they went to digital, but I was a projectionist for years and the volume is just a knob on the AV rack. Different screens get set to different volumes all the time depending on what is showing and who complains about it being too quiet or too loud. I believe the lead projectionist was supposed to go check everything at the beginning of the week but with 22 screens I guarantee that wasn’t happening on a regular basis.

So a movie might be “loud” but more often than not it won’t be consistent on different screens.

Kudos to the OP for knowing he’s an outlier and wearing earplugs instead of complaining a bunch to the staff.
 

Onivulk

Banned
I do audiograms for a living. Don't fuck around with loud noise. Anytime someone says "you get used to the noise" you can be sure that you are about to see profound hearing loss.
 

Weevilone

Member
Kudos to the OP for knowing he's an outlier and wearing earplugs instead of complaining a bunch to the staff.

We all have the same ear mechanisms, and the staff needs to know they are injuring people. Any other sort of injury and they'd be financially liable, and really it shouldn't be any different. It's just tough to prove a particular event was the problem.

I've had tinnitus for over 8 years now, and I had perfect hearing before an Elton John / Billy Joel concert. I was toward the front left of the show, and afterward my left ear never stopped ringing. I had a high pitch all the time, then an occasional noise like shaking of maracas with sand or something in them... almost an electrical static. Fortunately the variable sound mostly went away after a couple years and was left with just the high pitch tone.
 
I fucking love loud movies and hate it when its not loud enough. Too loud is extremely rare to me. Its more like the rare movie has some parts that get too loud.

I think clubs and concerts are very different. Even a Nolan Imax movie never gets close to that loud.

Unfortunately going out to clubs and concerts means your ears will be assaulted and you'll have ringing for a long time. A movie theater has never done that to me though.
 

ShowDog

Member
We all have the same ear mechanisms, and the staff needs to know they are injuring people. Any other sort of injury and they'd be financially liable, and really it shouldn't be any different. It's just tough to prove a particular event was the problem.

I've had tinnitus for over 8 years now, and I had perfect hearing before an Elton John / Billy Joel concert. I was toward the front left of the show, and afterward my left ear never stopped ringing.

Obviously it’s possible the volume at a movie is too loud and could cause injury. But a busy theater will have tens of thousands of customers in one weekend. If you are a person who always thinks the movie is too loud, you’re probably an outlier and just don’t like loud noises. Not all subjectively “loud” noises are damaging to hearing.

If a request to turn the volume down was granted usually 4 more people would come out and ask for it to be turned back up.

Concerts are way louder than movies in all my experiences.
 

Weevilone

Member
Obviously it's possible the volume at a movie is too loud and could cause injury. But a busy theater will have tens of thousands of customers in one weekend. If you are a person who always thinks the movie is too loud, you're probably an outlier and just don't like loud noises. Not all subjectively ”loud" noises are damaging to hearing.

If a request to turn the volume down was granted usually 4 more people would come out and ask for it to be turned back up.

Concerts are way louder than movies in all my experiences.

Concerts are louder in that they are likely to damage hearing profoundly at one event. Movie volume, at least local to me.. will be an accumulated thing. Heck my kids don't want to go because it's not comfortable. The comment about people wanting it turned back up made me laugh. We have a cultural and educational issue about hearing loss. It's cool and manly to listen to things that are too loud. If you give ANY thought to protecting your hearing, you're an outlier. If you wear plugs at a club you're an outlier.

Of course not every movie is the same, but the action movies like Iron Man and such are generally too loud.

Regarding my own thing.. I have no doubt that I was young and stupid, so I chipped away at my hearing. My family owned a boat dealership, so I was constantly listening to them test outboard engines in open air. I had loud car stereos, went to the clubs, loud movies, etc. I never did too many concerts. Heck my family even raced cars and boats.. lots of noise.
 

HoodWinked

Member
i still remember watching the Quantum of Solace car chase scene at a theater i used to live near.

it was one of the largest and most popular theater in that area but this theater sucked cause the viewers were immature or something and would regularly talk or yell during the movie.

so this theater would blast their speakers to drown out the noise, this car scene with all the wall scraping, gun fire, tire screeching and crashes was unbearable.

since then i've moved and theaters in my area crowds are polite and strangely clap at the end of movies.
 

grumble

Member
I love it loud. LOVE it.

Went to the IMAX dome in Charlotte last month and saw Dunkirk, it was amazing how good it sounded.

I want to feel the vibrations. The sound is half the movie for me.

It'll be a real bummer when you lose your hearing and hearing clear, loud sounds is a thing of the past for you
 
I love loud movies, but not if they literally hurt my ears.

Anyone with especially sensitive ears probably shouldn't be watching IMAX/ATMOS screenings without earplugs though.
 

TransTrender

Gold Member
Wow.
This is the complete opposite of the movie theater out here. Completely new structure that's less than 2 years old and all the theaters, standard and RPX, actually have really bad sound. Like, it's quiet, no bass, mono, and doesn't even use surround sound. It's super strange to be in one of these action movies with a dynamic scene and all the audio is coming from the center channel. I figured maybe it was a new trend but it looks like this place is just off.
 
I dunno, I saw Blade Runner yesterday, and while it was loud, they were only once in a while in quick bursts, not ear-damaging or anything. But I could guess why theaters are doing it - it’s one of the ways they can differentiate themselves from home theater, because most people can’t turn their volume up that loud at home. Also, microphone technology is getting more sensitive, so they can capture a wider range of quiet and loud moments. Unfortunately that means some movies are just damn hard to hear what people are saying, especially when watching at home.
 
I have tinnitus loud enough to be audible over conversations for the first few months. Now it fortunately lessened to where I only hear when in complete silence and don't mind it anymore. I carry etymotic earplugs on my keys all the time in case of loud noises, but regret not having it for dunkirk. For the next few days, my ears felt constantly stuffed, but back to normal now. Carrying them is a good idea.
 

Mashing

Member
BR 2049 was obscenely loud. I don't know if it was the sound mixing or just the theater though. The voices were fine though, so leaning toward the former.

This is coming from someone who has lost 75% of his hearing in one ear.
 

LoveCake

Member
I agree OP, but I still get hyped when I see the THX logo at the start of a movie.

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I went to go see a Dolby Cinema movie for the first time this past spring/summer to see what the image quality was like. Never. Again.

I also take earplugs to movie theaters, even if I don't always use them. I play it a lil loose and just plug em in if the trailers are unusually loud and/or I notice my bad ear beginning to get sore.

I was typing up a long post of my experiences of loud events (like a particular concert a few years back I suspect was the root of my ear problems) without the knowledge of using earplugs as a preventative measure, and about my own experience with doctors (my hearing tested to still be ideal for my age last year in my mid 20's even after I strongly suspected hearing loss in my bad right ear, and unfortunately the occasional lingering ear pain brought on by loud events remained a mystery to several doctors over repeat visits), but it was basically to say consider buying some Etymotic earplugs before you develop an issue and you have to go to a doctor who might just tell you to buy some Etymotic earplugs to prevent further damage in place of a remedy.
 
OP is completely right. While its not the only reason (too expensive, screaming kids and people on their phone etc..) its one of the big reasons I don't go to movies I just wait to watch at home (50 inch hdtv + 5.1 mmm). It seems like over the years movies have gotten louder too. I thought they were too loud even when I was a kid but now that I'm in my 30's its really too freakin loud. Not only do the theaters crank the volume too loud but sound mixing has gotten worse I think as well. Loud sounds are too loud and quiet conversations are too quiet.
 
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