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Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer

rekameohs

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Rey can be a Skywalker without being a blood relative. Like, she may literally become Luke’s successor and take the name because her family is gone.
 

Davide

Member
Nah. I still think there's a good chance she will be a Skywalker, but it still makes sense for her to be a nobody or someone else. These films are still about Skywalkers, one way or another.

And I think there's still a good chance for her to a nobody, what I'm saying is wrong is the point that these episodic films aren't going to keep focusing on one group (the Skywalkers) and are going to try new things and go in different directions, basically what the anthology films are for, when everything we've heard has indicated the contrary.
 

Surfinn

Member
Rey can be a Skywalker without being a blood relative. Like, she may literally become Luke's successor and take the name because her family is gone.

That would actually be pretty cool. I'd be down either way.. if she makes a brand new name for herself or takes Skywalker.

And I think there's still a good chance for her to a nobody, what I'm saying is wrong is the point that these episodic films aren't going to keep focusing on one group (the Skywalkers) and are going to try new things and go in different directions, basically what the anthology films are for, when everything we've heard has indicated the contrary.

Yeah the focus is on the Skywalker family, at least for this trilogy. I would assume all trilogies will be about them though, unless something changes.
 

JCHandsom

Member
If they do an Episode X, I want another time jump. Another couple of decades, just to keep up the tradition.

"Skywalker" might become a kind of rank or creed of Jedi to keep things going. "The Order of Skywalker" or "The Skywalker Clan" for example.
 

kevin1025

Banned
Rey can be a Skywalker without being a blood relative. Like, she may literally become Luke's successor and take the name because her family is gone.

That would actually be pretty cool. I'd be down either way.. if she makes a brand new name for herself or takes Skywalker.

That I would be very okay with, if she assumes the Skywalker name after everything is said and done and goes to find Force sensitive people like her in the galaxy and then a X would pick up there some years later.
 

Davide

Member
Yeah the focus is on the Skywalker family, at least for this trilogy. I would assume all trilogies will be about them though, unless something changes.
They seem to be abandoning using the "Episode" titles as it is at least for marketing, so I could easily see them making non-Skywalker trilogies in the future that aren't technically "episodes".
 
Sorry y'all but I will always be on the side that agrees about this needing to be the Skywalker Saga until Episode IX. After IX they can do something else.

Adoption would be a perfect thing too if it's going to happen.
If they do an Episode X, I want another time jump. Another couple of decades, just to keep up the tradition.
Wasn't that the plan?
 
Rey being an "adopted" Skywalker is fine by me. But the whole "chosen bloodline" shit has gotten old. It's been done twice in this series alone, enough.
 

Surfinn

Member
Rey being an "adopted" Skywalker is fine by me. But the whole "chosen bloodline" shit has gotten old. It's been done twice in this series alone, enough.

Yeah I'm not huge on it. There's a fuckton of evidence from TFA that she's Luke's, but I am totally fine (and more leaning toward) her being a nobody.

"Who are you?"

"I'm no one."

I think it's happening

They seem to be abandoning using the "Episode" titles as it is at least for marketing, so I could easily see them making non-Skywalker trilogies in the future that aren't technically "episodes".

If I remember right, this has been a common practice since Empire. I think a lot of the marketing takes the words Episode X out
 

kevin1025

Banned
Also, where the hell is Lando? Has Billy Dee Williams said anything publicly?

I'm guessing story-wise they maybe haven't found the perfect fit for him. But he had that lunch with Donald Glover and does Rebels, so I'm sure he'd be game to come back if it worked out.

Lando is busy with Lobot racketeering the First Order, probably. He's enjoying the good life as a rogue.
 

Ether_Snake

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I would expect her to not be a Skywalker, which solidifies her desire to find out where she belongs, and eventually starting her own path, clean slate. She would essentially end the Skywalker saga by leaving it all behind and starting something new. No kids of her own, no family.
 

JCHandsom

Member
I remember Finn Calrissian. I also remember Finn Windu.

I still believe

I'm guessing story-wise they maybe haven't found the perfect fit for him. But he had that lunch with Donald Glover and does Rebels, so I'm sure he'd be game to come back if it worked out.

Lando is busy with Lobot racketeering the First Order, probably. He's enjoying the good life as a rogue.

There's supposed to be a casino in TLJ right? That would be the perfect excuse to hook back up with him! And c'mon, we have to know what his response to Han's death is.
 

Surfinn

Member
Wasn't this just in the trailers?

Which apparently have a ton of misdirection?


Yeah, using "Episode _" only began with The Phantom Menace.

There was a shitton of unused stuff in TFA. Apparently there was a first cut that was over 4 hours. I think a lot of shit got scrapped from that film and potentially saved for future episodes. You could argue that it was misdirection, but I love both of those lines and wish they ended up in TFA.

Cuz it's technically true (for Rey, in that moment) and doesn't confirm/deny anything.
 

Surfinn

Member
Nah. There's a scene of this happening:
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It's very implied that she was left there.

What

How does that imply Rey was left on Jakku and not dropped off
 
Also, where the hell is Lando? Has Billy Dee Williams said anything publicly?

As much as I love Lando, having him pop up in the second movie of the new trilogy would probably end up being too close to ESB. We've already got the mentor training the young Jedi while the other characters are split up fighting the First Order, ala Luke with Yoda while Han and Leia run from the Empire, and it looks like we have a walker battle as well, ala Hoth. Bringing Lando back now would run the risk of having another repeat of the "TFA is A New Hope" problem.

That being said, if they can make it work then why not.

Wouldn't mind seeing him in the 9th movie though, if they can make it work.
 

JCHandsom

Member
As much as I love Lando, having him pop up in the second movie of the new trilogy would probably end up being too close to ESB. We've already got the mentor training the young Jedi while the other characters are split up fighting the First Order, ala Luke with Yoda while Han and Leia run from the Empire, and it looks like we have a walker battle as well, ala Hoth. Bringing Lando back now would run the risk of having another repeat of the "TFA is A New Hope" problem.

That being said, if they can make it work then why not.

Wouldn't mind seeing him in the 9th movie though, if they can make it work.

All I'm saying is that Lando has more than earned a top billing spot on these movies. Sooner the better, because it isn't just the Han/Luke/Leia show.
 
Apologies if this has been mentioned earlier in the thread, but the popular "Kylo spared Rey from the massacre and left her on Jakku" theory was deliberately debunked by an EU novel last year.

In "Bloodline," which takes place about six years before The Force Awakens, we hear that Ben is still off training with Luke. Rey, who is 19 in TFA, would be 13 when this novel takes place. Since she is clearly a child in the TFA flashback, and since Ben has yet to turn to the dark side, this means that Rey was abandoned on Jakku well before Kylo burned the temple, killed the Jedi, and betrayed Luke.

If you want to say that "it's a novel so who cares," the Lucasfilm Story Group was formed specifically to avoid this kind of problem where a novel contradicts a film. Pablo Hidalgo was asked about the timeline question on Twitter and, without addressing the theory, confirmed that the novel takes place six years before TFA. This definitively debunks the idea that Kylo left Rey on Jakku and severely injures, if not completely debunks, the idea that Luke left her there as well, and therefore means she is probably not his daughter.
 

longdi

Banned
Nope. Nope. Nope.

First of all we have gotten confirmation from Lucasfilm that Snoke is NOT Plagueis. And we have official confirmation that Snoke is NOT Human.

So he isn't Plagueis and he can't be Rey's dad.

Not human as in not human race? He is an alien or embodiment of the force? He sure looks like one of us earthlings though
 

Surfinn

Member
Oh hey


Found the most accurate trailer reaction


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Man

I hate to be that guy but I tried watching this video and there is nothing more fucking cringe worthy than a video that complains about reaction videos by actually BEING a reaction video

The edge is strong with this one

"reaction videos are so dumb"
"let me show you my reaction, then proceed to talk about the way people in the trailer are dressed for 7 minutes"
 

Joeytj

Banned
Apologies if this has been mentioned earlier in the thread, but the popular "Kylo spared Rey from the massacre and left her on Jakku" theory was deliberately debunked by an EU novel last year.

In "Bloodline," which takes place about six years before The Force Awakens, we hear that Ben is still off training with Luke. Rey, who is 19 in TFA, would be 13 when this novel takes place. Since she is clearly a child in the TFA flashback, and since Ben has yet to turn to the dark side, this means that Rey was abandoned on Jakku well before Kylo burned the temple, killed the Jedi, and betrayed Luke.

If you want to say that "it's a novel so who cares," the Lucasfilm Story Group was formed specifically to avoid this kind of problem where a novel contradicts a film. Pablo Hidalgo was asked about the timeline question on Twitter and, without addressing the theory, confirmed that the novel takes place six years before TFA. This definitively debunks the idea that Kylo left Rey on Jakku and severely injures, if not completely debunks, the idea that Luke left her there as well, and therefore means she is probably not his daughter.

That actually wasn't contradicted by "Bloodline", since Luke could've very much so been involved in the decision to leave Rey on Jakku years before "Bloodline", or might even have done it himself. There was plenty of time for Luke to have done that.

But I agree that she's most likely not his daughter, for many other reasons.
 
That actually wasn't contradicted by "Bloodline", since Luke could've very much so been involved in the decision to leave Rey on Jakku years before "Bloodline", or might even have done it himself. There was plenty of time for Luke to have done that.

But I agree that she's most likely not his daughter, for many other reasons.

I noted that it "severely injures" the theory of Luke leaving Rey on Jakku, since there are only so many plausible reasons why Luke would choose to abandon a little girl on a desert planet before his spirit had been broken by Ben's betrayal.
 

Joeytj

Banned
I noted that it "severely injures" the theory of Luke leaving Rey on Jakku, since there are only so many plausible reasons why Luke would choose to abandon a little girl on a desert planet before his spirit had been broken by Ben's betrayal.

Yeah I agree.

I guess, one of the few plausible explanations for him being involved in sending Rey "away, now that we have the timeline from "Bloodline", was that he foresaw her importance somehow or even danger, and leaving her on Jakky was part of some sort of long term plan, if one is into those kinds of theories.
 
Not feeling that involved or engaged in the Star Wars universe anymore, still liking the discussion of fan theories and speculation, I just went ahead and googled around for leaks. I'm not going to recite them here and obviously there is no way of actually confirming them. If they are true however then I'm actually ok with how they written the story. There are some weird aspects to some of that and you can actually see anectotal evidence of it being true in the trailer... but still, I think I could live with that. Not exactly mind bending stuff but could be way worse.

This is not supposed to start a leak discussion, I'm not going to post anything here (pm if you want to know details and don't want to google around yourself, for whatever reason)

I was contemplating not watching TLJ on the big screen this time because I feared that I would only get another pseudo sequel (which was TFA for me, an entertaining but utterly predictable ANH clone). Now I am kinda curious to see if the leaks are true and how it will play out on the screen.
 
Not feeling that involved or engaged in the Star Wars universe anymore, still liking the discussion of fan theories and speculation, I just went ahead and googled around for leaks. I'm not going to recite them here and obviously there is no way of actually confirming them. If they are true however then I'm actually ok with how they written the story. There are some weird aspects to some of that and you can actually see anectotal evidence of it being true in the trailer... but still, I think I could live with that. Not exactly mind bending stuff but could be way worse.

This is not supposed to start a leak discussion, I'm not going to post anything here (pm if you want to know details and don't want to google around yourself, for whatever reason)

I was contemplating not watching TLJ on the big screen this time because I feared that I would only get another pseudo sequel (which was TFA for me, an entertaining but utterly predictable ANH clone). Now I am kinda curious to see if the leaks are true and how it will play out on the screen.

There really haven't been that many leaks so I wouldn't put too much trust in them. Especially if they're not from Making Star Wars. Compared to TFA, The Last Jedi's been a pretty tight ship.
 
I'm guessing story-wise they maybe haven't found the perfect fit for him. But he had that lunch with Donald Glover and does Rebels, so I'm sure he'd be game to come back if it worked out.

Lando is busy with Lobot racketeering the First Order, probably. He's enjoying the good life as a rogue.

Nah, Lando is a senior executive or administrator now who's mostly morally straight, I reckon. Or shit, maybe he was on Coruscant when it got destroyed in TFA. I'd really like him to come back, but Star Wars has trouble giving more than one black guy a share of the limelight at a time.
 
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