Megalosaro
Banned
Bush was fucking terrible. But I'd rather have a corporate pupper idiot than a white supremacist unhinged nazi
He was a disaster of a president, but I attribute that to incompetence more than active malice. I never really doubted that he was essentially a good person; he just wasn't someone who should be in a position to create policy.
Whilst I firmly believe Trump is capable of the same and worse, he has yet to knowingly lead the US into a war on false pretences, kill hundreds of thousands, and start up a torture program.
trump is about 20% of the way through disassembling the last 8 years of progress. War sucks and all of that, but the ENTIRE REST OF MY LIFE is in the process of being affected. Everything trump is undoing now is going to take a minimum of 20 years to fix.
bush being awful doesn't make trump not more awful.
I always felt Bush genuinely believed he was doing the right thing, and that he wanted what was best for the country, but he allowed himself to be surrounded and influenced by some incredibly shitty people.
Trump literally wants to start a war, and he's threatening the planet. I'd say that's much worse then even Bush.
umm.. he is desperately working at killing ACA and environmental responsibility. try again. you don't think those actions will kill even more?
No, he just outright killed people and destabilized a whole region instead.
Reminder that Bush started an illegal war on a lie that has killed hundreds of thousands of people
This exact talking point is why leftists hate liberals
Miss me with your discourse, your conceptions of America being shattered by trump's election. Bush is a fucking war criminal.
Only if you lack any type of perspective. Bush killed thousands, Trump hasn't. Until he does, it's no contest.
Hundreds of thousands of just Iraqis actually unless you were only counting the tens of thousands of US soldiers killed.Only if you lack any type of perspective. Bush killed thousands, Trump hasn't. Until he does, it's no contest.
umm.. he is desperately working at killing ACA and environmental responsibility. try again. you don't think those actions will kill even more?
Trump has been in the office for 8 months and already threatening nuclear war, a conflict with Iran, and America quickly losing its power and becoming destabilized. Hell, he barely wants to even help obliterated parts of America where citizens are dying. Lets see how things go after 4 years because I guarantee things will be worse under Trump.
You're saying thousands won't die without affordable health insurance?
Hundreds of thousands of just Iraqis actually unless you were only counting the tens of thousands of US soldiers killed.
But Trump is the best thing that could have ever happened to Bush, he can actually show his face in public again.
Only if you lack any type of perspective. Bush killed thousands, Trump hasn't. Until he does, it's no contest.
I'm referring more to how he carries himself in comparison to Trump. Obviously Dubya is a warcriminal and was a incredibly bad president, but a spoilt child behaves better than Donald Trump on his best of days.
Bush was all about drill baby drill and, you know, was president before the aca ever existed
The actual answer is that you value the respectability of American political discourse more than you value human lives.
Reminder that Bush started an illegal war on a lie that has killed hundreds of thousands of people
This exact talking point is why leftists hate liberals
Miss me with your discourse, your conceptions of America being shattered by trump's election. Bush is a fucking war criminal.
Having a president actively respecting minority citizens in the wake of a massive terrorist attack vs one that's encouraging white supremacist organizations is not an "aesthetic" difference.Right, the only possible argument that Trump is worse than Bush is an aesthetic one, which is an extremely fucked up but frighteningly common way of looking at politics
Reminder that Bush started an illegal war on a lie that has killed hundreds of thousands of people
This exact talking point is why leftists hate liberals
Miss me with your discourse, your conceptions of America being shattered by trump's election. Bush is a fucking war criminal.
Bush may be responsible for an illegal war the caused hundred of thousands of deaths and destabilizing an entire region, made america trade their freedom for security, but hey only a fraction of those deaths were american so that's fine.
But Bush literally started a war.
Great speech by him was just on CNN. He spoke out about nationalism, Russia, white supremacy and more. As terrible a president he was, he is still 1000x more of a President than Trump any day. We need more of this. Especially from past Republican presidents.
On CNN now, no link to full speech yet.
I agree with that. I don't miss Bush as a president in the slightest. He was an embarrassment for completely different reasons and crippled our country in multiple ways.This is how the Overton window shifts. Most of the country is begging for Pence-level conservatism to save us from the madness.
It's great that Bush, McCain, and others are taking the president to task for his buffoonery, but we should still demand more from our politicians than basic human decency.
Until Trump starts a massive war based on fabricated evidence, he'll remain a better president than George W Bush.
Having a president actively respecting minority citizens in the wake of a massive terrorist attack vs one that's encouraging white supremacist organizations is not an "aesthetic" difference.
There is plenty of shit to hate about Bush, but having all the death eaters come out of the woodwork is a very real net negative. Just ask Heather Meyer.
Reminder that Bush started an illegal war on a lie that has killed hundreds of thousands of people
This exact talking point is why leftists hate liberals
Miss me with your discourse, your conceptions of America being shattered by trump's election. Bush is a fucking war criminal.
Bush was a terrible president and by all metrics is still a worse one than Trump, you just can't upsurp him as the worst president in such a short amount of time.
Bush the man and how you feel about his humanity is irrelevant towards his policy work and Trump's Trumpness.