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Gran Turismo Sport - Review Thread
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GTR R35_Supra RZ
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Good idea! You first.
Seganomics
Member
And back to my original point, this is all to the detriment of the titles wider fan base.
Luckydog
Member
Would have been easy to call it GT Online and avoid confusion. GT has a history of interesting naming including A-Spec and Prologue. That combine with the dev saying this could have been called GT 7 is confusing to the base. People outside of GAF know the GT name and expect GT of old. It is great they want to change the game, but you have to OVER communicate in that case. That didnt happen here no matter what the defense force says.
eyeball_kid
Member
How about Kazunori Yamauchi's Battlegrounds.
GoldenCrow
Member
If you are disappointed that GT:S misses the collecathon and upgrade element whilst the idea of sim or sim-lite racing doesn't appeal to you and you haven't played Horizon 2 or 3 go play it. They are likely the game you actually want and are expertly crafted games. If you prefer the gameplay elements of GT and on the fence about GT:S you need to play it as it is the best the series has produced.
I think Sony should get a studio to do a response to Forza Horizon as that is a far superior game in the car collectathon and max power/boy racer element that certain GT fans enjoyed and there is a market there for it they can tap into. It should use a similar campaign structure that was found in the old GT's and use a slightly more arcade variant of the current GT:S handling model. Give it a new franchise name and focus on numbers, modifications, visual changes and basically just fucking about in cars but with a tone similar to this or this rather than the festival vibe.
I think Sony should get a studio to do a response to Forza Horizon as that is a far superior game in the car collectathon and max power/boy racer element that certain GT fans enjoyed and there is a market there for it they can tap into. It should use a similar campaign structure that was found in the old GT's and use a slightly more arcade variant of the current GT:S handling model. Give it a new franchise name and focus on numbers, modifications, visual changes and basically just fucking about in cars but with a tone similar to this or this rather than the festival vibe.
Ace Harding
Member
If they had called it GT Online I and a lot of other people still would have been disappointed by how much is there. They made an online-focused racing game. Ok fine, but there really isnt much more here in the online stuff than other racing games. I am completely unclear as to what the online meta looks like a few months from now, and thats unacceptable for an online focused game.
Dear god no. Tons of customization. Awesome career, more real circuits, but for the love of all things GT Do NOT dumb it down any further.
GoldenCrow
Member
What do you mean dumb it down further? Its the most serious it has ever been.
But by more arcade I mean in a similar way Forza Horizon has a more accessible model than FM to allow for off road and elements that aren't physically possible that appeal to the upgrade crowd but you can push it up to being more like that of FM for those that want it.
thelastword
Banned
How exactly do reviews determine a fanbase? Sales is a much better determinant of that...
And i say with absolute certainty No. No open world, no off road(except for rally and hill climb), no horizon version of GT. Bring back all the customization and tuning, real world circuits and most importantly do not dumb down or make the driving model more accessible. Don't relegate those that want customization to a watered down horizon clone.
GoldenCrow
Member
So you want GT 3 to 6 with newer cars and prettier graphics but with the GT:S handling model.
You have made a lot of coments in this thread deriding the new game but have you actually played GT:S, either the full version or the beta demo?
Yeah, probably more comments in these GTS threads than all my posts combined. It's a series I have been very passionate about for a very long time. The series fostered my interest in cars and tuning and my love for general motorsports. Played the demo and own the game. I have nothing against the online. I've just been waiting a very long time for a new GT and feel disappointed.
Held off on buying one until the reviews hit but it seems like of the three racing sims out this year, GT Sport appeals to people like myself the least. I'm not 100% invested in cars or racing but every once in a while I like to make a deep dive into a racing sim or similarly complex game and see where it gets me. This game looks like it's for people who are into the competition aspect of motorsports games which I tend to avoid. I may give it a chance if I could borrow a copy off a friend or if I could get it really cheap but I might just get Forza 7 or Project Cars 2 on my PC instead for the time being. It doesn't seem like a great product for casual racing fans or people who aren't already fans of the series.
Too early to tell. No one knows what the sales are. No one knows what the engagement numbers are. Only time will tell if the title will have Siege like legs.
GoldenCrow
Member
Does the AI not bore you shitless in the older games? Doing the arcade single race challenges is like watching a scripted event happen every single time and was slightly worse in the older games. Going from sport mode where it is some of the best racing I have had on a console to the AI feels extremely dated.
AI doesn't bother me. I just love the campaigns. Only thing i hated in the GT series after a while was the damn license test and section challenges. Imagine my dissatisfaction seeing the emphasis on those in this new version.
travisbickle
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What did you enjoy about the campaigns?
It's really interesting that Polyphony designed the "custom race" mode which I reckon, from an initial look at all the options, you could create any configuration of race from all the previous GTs (obviously without specific tracks/cars) but they didn't have a team put together a campaign.
I also think it would have been a lot better to explain the rules of online if they created a reasonable offline campaign with variations of rules/penalties.
Vroadstar
Member
Hard to believe this when you only have 2 post in GTS OT. (both are still negative slant)....
While you basically live here in review thread and have more post in the another GTS thread. For someone who claimed he own the game, you spent more time deriding it than actually playing.
I always liked doing the 3 race cups/challenges over and over with different cars to earn credits for upgrades and/or new cars.
I think I had 800 something cars in GT4. (I had multiples for different kit variations, colors, etc. )
KyanMehwulfe
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Eurogamer review was pretty well written (or at least, it makes some good nuanced points about what it does different and how it excels in particular new ways), and I think regardless of what score the 'lack of car/'Sunday Cups' content means the game deserves overall (not saying it's a 7 or a 10), the points made about the great sportsmanship stats and the sort of 'track' style of the game lobbies is why that, despite the content, at the very least GTS is a very good at giving an [online] track racing experience that is superb.
In the sense that the game is a departure from the franchise's typical content, but excels in promoting, celebrating, and supporting the car enthusiast nature and self-improving sportsmanship of track racing, the GT Sport naming is quite apt.
For me so far, GT Sport does to content and online track racing what MGS V did to story and free roam gameplay. It's different. I didn't know it's what the franchise should be or that it could be. Not sure if it's overall better. But, at the very least, in one way it certainly excels, and though I may not play it 24/7 to 'finish' it for the first month, it may be the sort of gameplay that keeps me coming back for 30 minutes every day.
In the sense that the game is a departure from the franchise's typical content, but excels in promoting, celebrating, and supporting the car enthusiast nature and self-improving sportsmanship of track racing, the GT Sport naming is quite apt.
For me so far, GT Sport does to content and online track racing what MGS V did to story and free roam gameplay. It's different. I didn't know it's what the franchise should be or that it could be. Not sure if it's overall better. But, at the very least, in one way it certainly excels, and though I may not play it 24/7 to 'finish' it for the first month, it may be the sort of gameplay that keeps me coming back for 30 minutes every day.
They also want sales. The name guarantees a few million.
Mostly the car building. Picking a car and really connecting to it as you race to add parts and manage tunes and setting and slowly building a team of cars to race and build up through the various race types and classes. I very much enjoyed the progression and most importantly the connection to the car. Which was enhanced by a generaly excellent driving model. Unfortunately no other series got close to that. Sega GT on the xbox wasnt bad and the early forzas were ok but just not quite there. The latest forza is worse as the campaign makes the cars feel disposable. 1 car out of a very small pool for 1 race or championship, toss it for the next and never look back. With GTs campaign you could stick with one car for a ton of cup championships, building it up through the classes and it felt rewarding. Sure you could cheese the ai and obliterate them by overpowering them. However that was just cheating yourself and I found enjoyment running generally underspec.
My disdain is no secret. I just figured this thread is a better place for the discussion rather than clutter up the OT since im not playing it. As to owning the game, i do but it's shelved. The demo was enough for me. The "campaign" is not what want to play and I dont care for online(in any game). I own it for the collection.
I want to support you on your noble endeavor to weed out these fakers.
Here's a list of all the people in the GTS OT that only have 2 posts or less.
Let's teach them a lesson.
Only if they have a negative opinion of course.
Eh, don't be too tough on him. The internet is a cesspool of lies. I could just stoop down and take a pic with my screen name and date and for extra epeen points show my collection of all the games and demos but maybe we can be adults about it.
Can you alphabetize that?
I'm curious if I'm on the list
Wow. This is a really mature response and course of action. Thank you. I think others should try that
That sounds reasonable. As opposed to you just checking if you've posted more than twice.
That sounds reasonable. As opposed to you just checking if you've posted more than twice.
I'm lazy?
I mean if I wanted to be a jerk, I would ask to add avatars as I associate posters more with their avatars than their names.
Like you and your love for Daytona
Whew dodged a bullet
dragonfart28
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Well at least the summary on open critic doesn't mention the past games and only the lack of content.
wumster3000
Member
I am on that list and?
I have very little posts in the Forza 7 OT and I own that. So what? I probably havent posted in the Forza Horizon 3 OT and I own that game. I barley posted in the Horizon Zero Dawn OT and I own that. Havent posted anything in the Switch Stardew Valley thread and I own that? Gears of War, Madden, Uncharted 4, TLoU. I can keep going.
What are you trying to prove?
Psst the person who made that was joking/showing how silly to bring up OT post counts and probably fully agrees with you
wumster3000
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The list is there for a reason.
That reason was to show how ridiculous it would be to call out everyone on it as being unqualified to be posting an opinion here.
...and I literally just told you the reason
NullPointer
Member
"And unlike Sony's previous racing game DriveClub, its been reliable since launch"
Uhhh....
wumster3000
Member
You did and I ignored it. Sorry, I felt like the list was attacking us.
Thank you two for reeling me back in. I apologize for ignoring BearPaw.
Complicated
Banned
That's been happening since 2004 though. Every new Halo is the "worst game in the series" until a few years later everyone talks fondly of them.
Anyways, Polyphony dropped the number and it seems like it wasn't enough. Tells me they should've called it something different to avoid the comparison in features as well as sales because this obviously wasn't made to sell like a real Gran Turismo game should.
Fredrik
Member
Not trying to disagree with you here but I definitely love the competition, just not online competition.
Long post coming up...
As an example, I have played every GT except GT6 which released after I had already swapped to PS4, I've played every Forza and Forza Horizon, both Project Cars 1 and 2, Shift 1 and 2 as well, every Dirt game, every PGR, most NFS games.
But I have never played a single online race in these games. The last racer I played online was Motorstorm 1 on PS3 first week after the PS3 launch. Before that Ferrari F355 on Dreamcast.
I simply have zero interest to race against other people online. Ghost cars is okay, AI avatars is okay, time attack is great, leaderboards are fine, I just don't want to have other people's cars on the road in real time as a physical object I might smash into or get smashed by. Don't like it one bit. It's annoying. Makes me angry whenever someone does something dumb. The exception is when I'm playing in split screen sitting beside the person I just smashed into or got smashed by in Mario Kart, that's super fun.
So to see GT take this online focus so far as to barely give me anything at all to do offline is possibly the biggest disappointment I've ever had when it comes to racing games. It strays so far away from my gaming interest that as a long time fan I feel betrayed. Other games have had online races as a thing on the side, here it's the main thing. So this is really not the game I hoped to play after waiting on another GT since GT5.
I hope it sell so the serie doesn't die but I want PD to understand via the talk online and reviews that this change of direction wasn't what many of their fans wanted.
They could've calmed people and say that GT7 is coming, that this is a niche project while finalizing GT7. But they didn't, they said that this could've been called GT7 and tried to fool me into thinking I could have fun with it even offline.
Personally I think GT7 needs to happen and it needs to include the stuff that GT's legacy and popularity is built on, and it needs to come out in less than 4 more years.
The thing is, it's been 20 years, every game has sold 7+ million each. Few game series ever reach that type of worldwide popularity. I don't think it was a wise choice to throw all that under the rug and start over from scratch. That's usually something you do after a game bomb. That's why there is such a backlash now. The fans wasn't ready for this change. Simple as that. That nearly happened with BOTW as well but there it seems like enough fans and critics were fine with the change of direction, it was still a very very bold move that could've ended just as badly if not worse.
We are still waiting for actual reviews.