I think it's a metaphor for the limits of passive assistance, but I could be completely off.Did the tuna-cat thing mean anything?
Penhall is almost certainly gone, but everyone has good things to say about him. The real reason behind the departure might be logistical as much as creative though.
https://writerlyblogblog.wordpress.com/2017/04/24/joe-penhall-the-interview-part-2/
I get how the Principal story line was meant to show Holden crossing another line and becoming more entitled/arrogant/Mark Zuckerberg-esque I just didn't like the way the show handled it.If it would have ended with the transcriber asking Holden if this was really an FBI issue or Holden getting the call from the school board it would be fine. The two scenes that followed ( Principals wife somehow finding Holden's apartment and Holden seeing the Principal drinking at the super market) were just really heavy handed. It felt like the writers/show runners were just giving us text at those point.
Did the tuna-cat thing mean anything?
I love Fincher, I love well developed TV shows, but found the first episode to be so boring with no reason to continue. I don't care at all about any of the characters, nobody is likable or interesting. The acting and dialogue is very weird/awkward too. Does it get better? Does any actual serial killing detective work happen?
Wtf did Fincher forget how to direct actors or something?
This main FBI guy is terrible. Like, Stephen Amell terrible
Nah because ed kemper and also the guys partner are great. But yeah the lead and his girlfriend are terrible
I've gotten used to Holden now. He's basically a naive dork. But his girlfriend absolutely sucks. Recast her or drop the character next season.
I'm still on ep 6, but i assume Holden is supposed to be a low key sociopath? That would explain how fucking creepy he comes off.
I'm still on ep 6, but i assume Holden is supposed to be a low key sociopath? That would explain how fucking creepy he comes off.
I assume he puts on a mask of being a sociopath for the job but sometimes becomes a bit too comfortable in that skin that he forgets to take it off.
I'm still on ep 6, but i assume Holden is supposed to be a low key sociopath? That would explain how fucking creepy he comes off.
What is up withthough? Creeped me out.Bill's sonwas smart to get the hell outta Dodge.The babysitter
I love Fincher, I love well developed TV shows, but found the first episode to be so boring with no reason to continue. I don't care at all about any of the characters, nobody is likable or interesting. The acting and dialogue is very weird/awkward too. Does it get better? Does any actual serial killing detective work happen?
What is up withthough? Creeped me out.Bill's sonwas smart to get the hell outta Dodge.The babysitter
he reminds me of Dennis from Always Sunny whenever he used to go off on his psychotic tangents lmao
I'm about as far as you in the show right now. I'm assuming he's either gonna turn to murder himself at some point (but I don't want this show to turn into that) or perhaps all this research will worsen his social skills even moreso than they are now. you can already see the toll it takes on the both of them as they have to go decompress and get some beers after interviewing Ed
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/da...mindhunter-cinematography-netflix-1201887819/
From ‘Zodiac' to ‘Mindhunter': 5 Visual Elements that Define David Fincher's Cinematic Universe
On one occasion, when Douglas' colleague Robert Ressler was in a cell alone with Kemper, Kemperwho at the time weighed 300 pounds (136 kg)noticed the apprehension in Ressler after he had pressed a hidden button repeatedly to call a guard to open the cell yet not received a response and told him "Relax. They're changing the shift," but remarked: "If I went apeshit in here, you'd be in a lot of trouble, wouldn't you? I could screw your head off and place it on the table to greet the guard." Ressler verbally sparred with Kemper until the guard arrived, ultimately leaving unharmed with Kemper displaying no physical aggression. Kemper also stated afterwards that he was joking, but Ressler never entered a cell alone again with Kemper and it became FBI policy to interview serial killers in pairs
Speaking on Fincher's visual style, here's an interesting video about his camerawork:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqD5WqChUY&t=0s
You don't see this in Mindhunter though. Probably too time-intensive for a TV show.
I'm on episode 8 and I felt the same about the first episode. Had read so many reviews saying it was slow and I was hooked right from the get-go. Seemed like it flew by. I'm gonna be bummed out when these last three episodes are done. Show is fantastic.Really don't get all the complaints about the first episode. I thought the subject matter was pretty fascinating and it pulled me into the show. Also what's with people judging a 10 episode series based on 50 min? It's just weird
I automatically thought why the cast was so white at the beginning but Torv's character actually explained why pretty well in e8.
But in the video you link there are literally examples of Minhunter in it?
About thatWhat is up withthough? Creeped me out.Bill's sonwas smart to get the hell outta Dodge.The babysitter
She starts feeding the cat out of pity/goodwill, and she thinks she is asserting control. It becomes a routine she is comfortable with even though there is no sign that the cat ever recognizes her as part of the contribution. One day the cat is no longer there and she realizes that the cat exists outside of her control and while it ate what she initially offered, it's not always going to be there just because she's feeding it. I saw it as a metaphor for her work environment. She thought she was in control after taking the job. She was comfortable and getting more confident. Then she realizes one day that Holden just didn't give a fuck. Lol.
What is up withthough? Creeped me out.Bill's sonwas smart to get the hell outta Dodge.The babysitter
What is up withthough? Creeped me out.Bill's sonwas smart to get the hell outta Dodge.The babysitter
He has autism.
The rational side of me assumed this, while the irrational side is all likeOMGSERIALKILLER!!
...which is all part of the tension for Tench, I think. It's a really neat little detail that ties up with Tench's own stated relationship with his father to make for a complex family situation.
Surprised to see the negative opinions of Groff's performance, his awkwardness and delivery came across as fully intended to me. He obviously shares character traits with those he's studying.
Yup. Plusthe pic the son has stashed under his bed shows a male victim.
I loved Holden's arc.Going from eager self-starter and soft-hearted sensitive boyfriend to total narcissistic dick (at work and at home) and then fucking himself and collapsing into a heap at the end. It's a good contrast to how other characters may have appeared to be antagonistic to his methods, but by the end you see that they were just even-keeled and responsible compared to Holden.
That's my feeling too. You're supposed to know there's something off about him - yet he's the only one who is able to connect with the killers so effortlessly compared to the others. As you progress, you start to see the same traits in him that the killers exhibit: the narcissism, the lack of empathy (even though he is able to fake it in public).
Just finished the season. Fantastic show.
Oh, and Holden just always made me think of Dennis from Always Sunny, some scenes were comical because of it.
I simply felt that she was all along and the cat offered her a semblance of companionship. She just moved to a place where she has no friends.She starts feeding the cat out of pity/goodwill, and she thinks she is asserting control. It becomes a routine she is comfortable with even though there is no sign that the cat ever recognizes her as part of the contribution. One day the cat is no longer there and she realizes that the cat exists outside of her control and while it ate what she initially offered, it's not always going to be there just because she's feeding it. I saw it as a metaphor for her work environment. She thought she was in control after taking the job. She was comfortable and getting more confident. Then she realizes one day that Holden just didn't give a fuck. Lol.
Speaking on Fincher's visual style, here's an interesting video about his camerawork:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqD5WqChUY&t=0s
You don't see this in Mindhunter though. Probably too time-intensive for a TV show.
If youlike me, a well-adjusted personbinge-watched all ten episodes of the show in a single sitting last weekend, you were probably left with a lot of questions after that unsettling finale and vaguely horrified by the realization that Season Two isn't coming until 2019.