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MINDHUNTER |OT| Netflix Original Series - Oct 13
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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I'm not bothered by it but I do think you're touching upon a very valid criticism of the show.
There isn't really a strong throughline tying many of these individual cases together. The relationship between the two leads is indeed strong but it's more philosophically interesting than emotionally engaging. For many, that makes it difficult to care for them both.
Those scenes are critical to his character development
Discotheque
Banned
watch the Knick. Soderbergh directed all episodes of both seasons and its damn good.
Just finished. Loved the show. It was a little slow at times, but the characters are so strong, I don't care. Really love Bill Trench as a character.
I think Holden shares
I absolutely loved the ending sequence. Sweet song choice, too.
I think Holden shares
a bunch in common with the psychopaths he interviews.
He's not there, obviously. But he is an extreme narcissist.
He's not there, obviously. But he is an extreme narcissist.
I absolutely loved the ending sequence. Sweet song choice, too.
He said 'legendary directors'.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
its a famous serial killer. If you want to know who Its been mfntioned alot in this thread
He's the BTK killer probably the most infamous serial killer in history.
He will probably be a constant background theme until he's featured in a later series.
David Fincher interview: http://pca.st/OIj8
I don't know if there are spoilers, I haven't listened yet.
I don't know if there are spoilers, I haven't listened yet.
This was great. Just when I was thinking of quitting Netflix, they come out with a show of this caliber.
The first episode was kinda rocky but it got good real quick.
Yeah but let's face it, the actress playing his girlfriend is dreadful.
The first episode was kinda rocky but it got good real quick.
Yeah but let's face it, the actress playing his girlfriend is dreadful.
Oh I didnt even think about having him in the future seasons. Thats good then.
so Holden was just having a panic atttack right? He wasnt drugged or something in the end
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
And what a fucking scene that was. Powerful stuff.
He's not immortal after all!
Really liked the actors that portrayed Kemper and Trench, they did a hell of a job. And Holden has kind of this Spock-like cold, emotionless delivery, in a good way.
| Praxis |
Banned
Just finished it, absolutely gutted now because I enjoyed it so much. It has also jump started my slightly unhealthy fascination in serial killers again, my poor wife is going to have to listen to me talk about them and witness my slow decent into books and websites...again.
Can't wait for season 2. Oh, and Holden just always made me think of Dennis from Always Sunny, some scenes were comical because of it.
Can't wait for season 2. Oh, and Holden just always made me think of Dennis from Always Sunny, some scenes were comical because of it.
I was unsure if they are actually going to make him BTK, considering his very long down times between murders and his arrest being so long after when the show is set. I was just assuming he's heavily influenced by Dennis Rader
STILLethal
Member
Worth watching after ep2?
I mean ai like the show but i feel like theres something missing, does it get any more interesting?
I mean ai like the show but i feel like theres something missing, does it get any more interesting?
| Praxis |
Banned
I was hooked from the off, so not sure what to say. It's a very slow burn, and all the better for it.
Rumblebones
Banned
Episode 1 is the worst episode.
It gets much better in episodes 2-3 and does a good job of maintaining that level of quality consistent throughout the rest of the season.
Stick with it.
I loved Holden's arc.
Going from eager self-starter and soft-hearted sensitive boyfriend to total narcissistic dick (at work and at home) and then fucking himself and collapsing into a heap at the end. It's a good contrast to how other characters may have appeared to be antagonistic to his methods, but by the end you see that they were just even-keeled and responsible compared to Holden.
oh never heard of that, will do, thanks!
Hmmmm, don't know, I wouldn't say her acting was special or something, I guess it got the job done
And honestly, I don't know how you can objectively define a bad acting in a movie ot a tv series, do you have any criterion?I mean what traits about her acting made you not like it?
Exactly
Kinda reminded me of myself, I was quite much relating to him, and I was like "oh man I gotta be careful to not end up like him" lol
Fried Food
Banned
I like the show, I think it took too long for it to figure out what it wanted to be about though. I don't think the last scene excuses the way the early season was handled. They call that the Mass Effect.
Charlie0108
Member
I'm surprised they picked
the BTK killer to be the guy at the start given how long it took for him to get caught. Would have thought they might have done Dahmer or Bundy.
Five. Season. Plan.
That Empire interview with Fincher is great. I don't get the sense Penhall is gone though? Finch only has good things to say about him. He was the one that came up with the idea to fictionalize the main cast even while keeping real names on the killers and the more prominently known victims. He said he couldn't be so beholden to the literal experiences of Douglas and Ressler if he was going to write good drama and the team seemed to agree that change was the key to getting to make the show as they envisioned it.
Penhall is almost certainly gone, but everyone has good things to say about him. The real reason behind the departure might be logistical as much as creative though.
https://writerlyblogblog.wordpress.com/2017/04/24/joe-penhall-the-interview-part-2/
Yeah, that sounds like he's in a position where involving him past the outlining phase is difficult just because he's a continent away.
What do you mean?
That story is really about Holden and his own issues.
metalslimer
Member
It's grey from Holdens perspective
The FBI can't get involved in those kind of cases
I thought he directed a few in between. There is definitely a huge difference in how the show looks between directors though
He directs the last two episodes too.
Exactly. When I bought it up previously, everyone was jumping on the "but the guy deserved it" angle, when I feel that isn't the point. Yeah he did, no one feels sorry for him, that's not the point. It's about how Holden handled it, and what it meant to him. It isn't about right or wrong so much as process and losing yourself up your own ass.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Christ. The Fincher directed episodes are a masterwork of skill. I hope this gets more praise/future seasons.
I thought Fincher directed the worst episodes of the bunch (the first two). I watched this show without knowing Fincher's involvement, and my first thought was "this looks like low-rent David Fincher..." lol.
It's like she had no charisma whatsoever. I also had that problem with the main character, but at least he changes throughout the show.
It's like she had no charisma whatsoever. I also had that problem with the main character, but at least he changes throughout the show.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Close your eyes when you listen to Holden Ford and tell me he doesn't sound exactly like Zachary Quinto.
He might be imitating him at points unconsciously because Groff used to date him.
Was everyone fucking insane in the 70s?
RastaMentality
Banned
I automatically thought why the cast was so white at the beginning but Torv's character actually explained why pretty well in e8.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I started this because I'm a true crime nut, and have been studying serial killers for years. So far I'm enjoying it. I've only finished 2 episodes, I heard it continues to get better. So far it has delved a lot into criminal psychology, which I love, I've always been interested in it.
At the beginning of episode 2, they started off in Wichita and never went back to it, but that had to be
. Looked exactly like him. If so, I hope they go back to him, I'd love to see what the show does with him as a character.
At the beginning of episode 2, they started off in Wichita and never went back to it, but that had to be
Dennis Rader
It's looking like everyone was just completely screwed up by lead poisononing en masse till the 80s kids after lead gas got banned out.
I get how the Principal story line was meant to show Holden crossing another line and becoming more entitled/arrogant/Mark Zuckerberg-esque I just didn't like the way the show handled it.
If it would have ended with the transcriber asking Holden if this was really an FBI issue or Holden getting the call from the school board it would be fine. The two scenes that followed ( Principals wife somehow finding Holden's apartment and Holden seeing the Principal drinking at the super market) were just really heavy handed. It felt like the writers/show runners were just giving us text at those point.