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NeoGAF will always respect women/racial minorities/lgbt

some of the posts in the stickied thread are making me a little queasy.
if you feel the restrictions placed on political discussion permits you to openly express bigotry then you should request a ban!
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ckaneo

Member
Yeah, but the problem isnt respecting minorities/lgbt

You have to be blind or deaf to not acknowledge Neogaf has a clear problem when it comes to being an echo chamber, over-empowered mods, and what can only be described as a toxic environment for dissenting opinions. Even ones with good intentions. Homophobic and racist individuals should be banned outright, but neo gaf had an environment where I could have been banned for defending Evilore. (not that I am, just an example).
 

Rokal

Member
MinorityGAF is inherently social and by extension political.

Better stay quiet now and focus on what really matters: videogames.

Disgusting.
 

Aters

Member
Yeah, but the problem isnt respecting minorities/lgbt

You have to be blind or deaf to not acknowledge Neogaf has a clear problem when it comes to being an echo chamber, over-empowered mods, and what can only be described as a toxic environment for dissenting opinions. Even ones with good intentions. Homophobic and racist individuals should be banned outright, but neo gaf had an environment where I could have been banned for defending Evilore. (not that I am, just an example).

I was banned for six months for shitting on rap. Yep, not any race or gender or sexual orientation, but a music genre.
 

Clockwork5

Member
It is clear that the ones requesting bans are the ones we want to stay. It will be interesting to see what comes of this place.
 
You have people posting about how they can't wait to finally speak their minds and it's gonna be great now that all the "SJWs" are gone, so I doubt it.
 
I was banned for six months for shitting on rap. Yep, not any race or gender or sexual orientation, but a music genre.

What did you say about it. If you repeated the usual stereotypical complaints to derail a thread & reiterated a not so subtle dog whistle about the genre, I could see it.
 

killatopak

Member
just lay low and wait for the bad ones to go. Although there are a lot of good members leaving as well, the least we can do is stay civil.
 

Jeels

Member
sure they respect lgbt and racial minorities, just don't talk about respecting them openly anymore.

Ya that's what I'm seeing too. Gaf was one of the few places I felt safe. Now the leadership is telling me to shut up and only talk about pop culture. :(
 
Yeah, but the problem isnt respecting minorities/lgbt

You have to be blind or deaf to not acknowledge Neogaf has a clear problem when it comes to being an echo chamber, over-empowered mods, and what can only be described as a toxic environment for dissenting opinions. Even ones with good intentions. Homophobic and racist individuals should be banned outright, but neo gaf had an environment where I could have been banned for defending Evilore. (not that I am, just an example).

I was banned for six months for shitting on rap. Yep, not any race or gender or sexual orientation, but a music genre.

These are very true...

I guess everyone has their own perspective when it comes to this site.
 
I was banned for six months for shitting on rap. Yep, not any race or gender or sexual orientation, but a music genre.

shitting on an entire medium/genre is pretty dumb

in what context did you think "rhyming words on beat is so shitty" would lead to rewarding discourse?
 

Dirca

Member
I wasn't banned, but I was labeled a racist and dog piled on during the election because I chose to support Johnson rather than Clinton. I'd be thrilled if OT or at least poligaf never comes back due to that type of toxic behavior and culture.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
You have people posting about how they can't wait to finally speak their minds and it's gonna be great now that all the "SJWs" are gone, so I doubt it.

I thought those people were going to the gaf-lite boards.

It's funny that GAF is supposed to be a little liberal oasis in a sea of gamergate, AltRight sickness taking over the internet, but all of those garbage posters were just lying in wait.

Then you have the other half committing account suicide as way to earn legit street cred for their friends.

To all those people: nobody knew who you were before, nobody will miss you when you're gone.
 
I was banned for six months for shitting on rap. Yep, not any race or gender or sexual orientation, but a music genre.

I remember you, you entered a thread with the sole purpose of spewing how much you hate rap and rap artists. You questioned why anyone could like the genre saying it's all trash and as are the artists before going into a rant about the subject matter. Pretty sure you also made jokes about how the genre was the aural equivalent of rape You at no point posted anything in good faith or to foster actual conversation.
 

MadeULook

Member
Yeah, but the problem isnt respecting minorities/lgbt

You have to be blind or deaf to not acknowledge Neogaf has a clear problem when it comes to being an echo chamber, over-empowered mods, and what can only be described as a toxic environment for dissenting opinions. Even ones with good intentions. Homophobic and racist individuals should be banned outright, but neo gaf had an environment where I could have been banned for defending Evilore. (not that I am, just an example).
Exactly what I wanted to say.
 
Most people respect women and minorities, it isn't this rare trait in a person. This is a disingenuous deflection of legitimate criticism towards a lot of former posters here.
 

ckaneo

Member
I said it rapes my ears.

I dont have any context, but yeah mods are always power tripping.

I was banned for saying that nintendo had the right to fire a girl if they found out she was a prositute. Not that she was one, just if they had found out.
 
Did you say it wasn't music?

Yeah that would do it. Rap follows a basic 4/4 time signature but the variety of sound and instrumentation is pretty enormous. If you say some stupid shit like that at a time when Kendrick Lamar is putting out albums like To Pimp a Butterfly, then you are not making an argument in good faith, you're just being a petty troll.
 

Palantir

Banned
Being respectful and mindful of your fellow human beings is a good thing, and there should really be no place for anyone to purposefully cause harm to another innocent person.
The problem is/was the collective, loose definition of "bigotry" that was so pervasive here. There ARE valid conservative positions about these types of social issues that do not warrant you being called a bigot, racist, homophobe, transphobe, or whatever other names you have in your ammo pack.
The problem was that no fair discussion could be had without getting immediately dog piled upon and banned.
If this type of culture at Gaf is gone, that will be a great day to witness. Perhaps some productive debate could take place and people could just agree to disagree. I guess we shall see.
 
GAF has been overmoderated to an absurd degree.

For example, the following post got me insta-banned for a month.

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I'm not a sexist, I'm not a gamergater, I'm not even a conservative. I was just asking a fucking question. I'm not afraid to say that shit needs to stop. It's a discussion forum for god's sake.
 

Aters

Member
I remember you, you entered a thread with the sole purpose of spewing how much you hate rap and rap artists. You questioned why anyone could like the genre saying it's all trash and as are the artists before going into a rant about the subject matter. Pretty sure you also made jokes about how the genre was the aural equivalent of rape You at no point posted anything in good faith or to foster actual conversation.

And a six month as a result? That's still harsh. Also, I don't think I actually typed all that much in a short span of time given it was a live event.
 
it's important that us likeminded individuals remain on this forum to preserve the tolerant and accepting environment that we chose NeoGAF for
 

JayBabay

Member
I remember you, you entered a thread with the sole purpose of spewing how much you hate rap and rap artists. You questioned why anyone could like the genre saying it's all trash and as are the artists before going into a rant about the subject matter. Pretty sure you also made jokes about how the genre was the aural equivalent of rape You at no point posted anything in good faith or to foster actual conversation.

There it is.

On topic, I have no doubt this site will still support minority and LGBT rights and anyone speaking hatefully towards those groups should be banned as quickly as before. No reason for any of that to change.
 
I'm sorry, OP, but I do not nearly have as much confidence in the future of this site as you do. I'm already seeing the signs of a paradigm shift that will lead to people like me being treated as less than human, even if ever so subtly.

With much of the moderation staff gone now, will GAF really be able to protect us as well?

the subject could have been anything: using rape in that context would net you a ban every time.

Will it now, though?
 
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