CrimzonSamurai
Member
What a turd of a comment. Yeah no one in the civil rights movement ever talked about racism when fighting it.
I think you missed the sarcasm.
What a turd of a comment. Yeah no one in the civil rights movement ever talked about racism when fighting it.
Yeah, this would be nice. I play games to get away from this sort of thing.
PoliGAF had devolved into complete madness and was suspecting everyone of being a Russian shill. One thing I won't miss is PoliGAF, easily one of the most toxic threads in the forum.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
He's the president of the United States, and the majority of users are from English speaking countries. Like it or not, most everything the US government does effects all of our lives.
The GAF rule was always new threads for new news, because it's easy for updates to get lost in 300 page OTs, and you'll have entire pages of posters replying with outdated information. The president also effects a disproportionate amount of topics; from immigration to local elections to policing to international conflict to the environment to sports to lgbt rights to women's rights to minority rights to taxes to space exploration.
It would be, frankly, asinine to attempt to discuss all of those subjects simultaneously in one thread, along with every major crises that a president must address that gets thousands of replies.
People who don't want to be in a discussion can just... ignore a thread. "Triggered to trolling" means what, you can't help but shitpost news that effects your confirmation bias?
Thank you for this.
I think the forum could definitely go back to the way it was with Off Topic and could work.
If you don't want to read a thread then simply don't click on it. The same applies on any internet forum. As long as the topic isn't hate filled and wrongfully attacking someone/a group then simply don't enter it.
Time will tell.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Which is going to be an improvement upon the old NeoGAF where dissenting opinions on political subjects could easily lead to bans. Real discussions between people with absolutely different opinions was never possible because far too many mods banned everyone they disagreed with.
Seeking clarification - does this ban include discussion of games, movies, tv shows and books that tackle social or political subjects?
Which is going to be an improvement upon the old NeoGAF where dissenting opinions on political subjects could easily lead to bans. Real discussions between people with absolutely different opinions was never possible because far too many mods banned everyone they disagreed with.
The issue with OT was moderation. Someone could hurl intense abuse at someone based on their political opinion and would be celebrated, as long as they were on the extreme left. Others would be banned for making polite statements - but if the moderation team didn't agree POW! Banned.
There should be no issue with polite and reasoned discussion.
I prefer not to get into in-depth social and political discussions online. I mean it's hard enough to have these discussions in real world/in-person settings but taking it online with anonymity (and how it enables poor/rude behavior), and misinterpretation is a recipe for disaster in my opinion.
Thing is, some of us can't escape these issues even if we wanted to on gaming forums. As a queer female who loves all sorts of hardcore gaming genres, I rarely feel at easy on most gaming forums since most posters there seem to hope I wouldn't play games or wouldn't even exist. Right-wingy bigoted gamers have hundreds of forums to choose from because that's the default mode of gaming talk but some of us have harder times. Ban on political and social aspects here is just one more thing to silence and erase us. I don't know what's coming for GAF but I just feel sad.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
It makes no sense whatsoever. Everything is political.
Absolutely this.Nuking OT from orbit makes it seem seems like Evilore has an implicit fear of his own site. In any case, the forums are in a moderation vacuum right now.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Yeah I'm gonna go with this. Whether LGBT people should be treated like human beings is not a partisan issue.LGBT and other diversity-focused rights aren't political topics. They're basic human decency topics.
Yeah I'm gonna go with this. Whether LGBT people should be treated like human beings is not a partisan issue.
Not partisan isn't the same as not political. Human rights is the quintessential political topic.
While most of this is nonsense. I would support splinting OT in two. Once could host all the media/funny pictures/random threads. All politics and contentious social issues should have their own forum.
I second this.Is it not possible that we can have a sub-forum dedicated to politics that is separated out from Off-Topic?
No one's forced to enter the off-topic forum.Yeah, this would be nice. I play games to get away from this sort of thing.
LGBT and other diversity-focused rights aren't political topics. They're basic human decency topics.
I don't know how to feel about this, banning social and political discussion is impossible because everything is social/political, especially in movies, games, anime, etc... but we need to stop the witch-hunt and the abuse that comes with it.
I learned a lot about social issues and myself by having great discussions with people here but sometimes, the very far alt left of the forum was unbearable, too much, everything needed to be an outrage, everything needed to be racist, sexist or whatever and if you disagree with them, you were instantly attacked by X people or banned.
In almost every thread, you always had people thinking and saying that they were a better person than you are, more feminist than you, more human than you, greater than you etc... which escalated the discussions every single time, those people are a problem.
Extremist from both sides are a problem, but in the end, there were a lot of people who took the time to explain things, explained how they feel, how they were living and what could be done to live a better life for everyone, I'm sure a lot of people feeled better by talking to people that had the same issues or social problem they were facing (me included) and it would be a shame if those topics were to be stopped...
Some people on Gaf cheers me up when I was broken, they also show me how wrong I was on many things and I'm a better person than I was few years ago for sure, my views on many things change, I've open my eyes about many things and I know myself better, I've a better understanding about minority as a all and I become more supportive of them ( especially towards LGBT people, minority representation in medias, feminism etc... )
I think it's very important for those topics to stay there, it would be a shame if they weren't, what we need is a better moderation of those subjects and listening to other people with an open mind, just my 2 cents.
Thing is, some of us can't escape these issues even if we wanted to on gaming forums. As a queer female who loves all sorts of hardcore gaming genres, I rarely feel at easy on most gaming forums since most posters there seem to hope I wouldn't play games or wouldn't even exist. Right-wingy bigoted gamers have hundreds of forums to choose from because that's the default mode of gaming talk but some of us have harder times. Ban on political and social aspects here is just one more thing to silence and erase us. I don't know what's coming for GAF but I just feel sad.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Man... That's a huge step back from GAF as a progressive gaming forum. You're basically disallowing minorities from speaking up against issues important to them, as well as giving Gamer Gate people a huge victory by disallowing people from fighting back against them.
That would be such a huge loss of identity from GAF as many people loved it.
So that's the community where one can agree that sexual assault is bad without being banned?lmfao if he just was at all apologetic about his screw up instead of pushing the blame onto the girl then this place could have easily survived.
For the sane people left here, keep an eye out the ResetEra site; a new gaf created from some of the old mods. It should be going up this week.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Sorry if you are saddened and feel silenced by the direction of the OT forum once it returns.
I do feel that the majority of gaffers who will remain on the forums will prefer to keep the social and political discussion to a minimum, and hopefully, make the community more inclusive and tolerant. We'll see.
They should've made some kind of separated "POLITICS" and "POLITICS IN GAMING" containment boards, and that's it.
I don't think your logic makes sense. I mean, how can something be truly more inclusive and tolerant, if it means suppressing people from discussing essential components of their life?
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
That was what separated gaf from other sites. It wasn't just a gaming focused site and that's what elevated it to a different standard. If I never discovered GAF I'd think gamers were in general just all a bunch of childish morons. Sure moderation is going harder in this new climate where eyes are on everyone around the world. It's honestly as horrible as it always was around the world it's just that with the rise of social media and people not being afraid to speak their minds that shit is going into the limelight. We should be embracing the progressiveness of it imo. Forums are always as good as their mods and this site is no different. We've always had a strong mod team here and it's sad seeing GAF crumbling due to one bad call and one bad policy change.Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Sounds great to me, I think the forum will be better off honestly. I just hope the new mods aren't as ban happy as the old mods, it always felt like you were one differing opinion away from a ban.
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
No more Trump threads.
No more LGBTQ rights threads.
No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.
No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)
No more GamerGate threads.
No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.
No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)
Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
Gee i wonder what different opinion. LGBTQ people shouldn't have the same rights at me?
Why can't i be racist? Who cares about women in videogames?
Yeah. Sounds fucking awful, there's a lot of forums where you can express those views if you want. Gaf was different.