release it at 50fps! with HD our US brethren can enjoy the fluidity and beauty of 50Hz just like we in Europe are used to.
Seriously though, wouldn't you take 50fps over 30? now we're HD only it is an option.
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Shahid Kamal: "Two words you're going to hear a lot of on PS4- 1080p/60fps"
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release it at 50fps! with HD our US brethren can enjoy the fluidity and beauty of 50Hz just like we in Europe are used to.
Seriously though, wouldn't you take 50fps over 30? now we're HD only it is an option.
I did say that if you go for 720p then you have to have 60 fps.
SneakyStephan
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Aren't knack, driveclub, nfs rivals, ac4, watchdogs and infamous all 30 fps?
I guess having console makers aknowledge 60 fps again is a start at least
I guess having console makers aknowledge 60 fps again is a start at least
ReplacementPelican
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Driveclub was aiming for 60ps and given the delay it probably will be.
Lord Panda
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Wow putting your neck out on the Internet line.
Raonak
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Im sure vast majority of PS4 games will be 1080p.
60fps im finiky on, because im sure the big sony guys will want to do 30 + better effects (ND namely). I really can't see much 3rd parties pushing for 60fps, because they have the xbone as a bottleneck.
But im pretty sure majority of indies will be 1080p/60fps. no reason not to really, so that makes more sense, since shahid is the indie guy for playstation,
This is based on the fact that sony titles aren't 60fps focused as it is. it's entirely possible that that's just because of launch. with them optimising the engines, especially with some of the stuff that cerny was talking about which would only start appearing in games 2-3 years down the line, it's possible that framerates will increase.
60fps im finiky on, because im sure the big sony guys will want to do 30 + better effects (ND namely). I really can't see much 3rd parties pushing for 60fps, because they have the xbone as a bottleneck.
But im pretty sure majority of indies will be 1080p/60fps. no reason not to really, so that makes more sense, since shahid is the indie guy for playstation,
This is based on the fact that sony titles aren't 60fps focused as it is. it's entirely possible that that's just because of launch. with them optimising the engines, especially with some of the stuff that cerny was talking about which would only start appearing in games 2-3 years down the line, it's possible that framerates will increase.
Interested in seeing how big the 60fps push is 3-5 years down the line.
I think once developers really start upping the ante in terms of visual candy, there will be more and more pressure to use that power for keeping in line or pushing the boundaries rather than going for outright performance.
Neither approach is inherently wrong. Both are great in their own way. I'm just curious how it'll play out. There's nothing particularly special about the hardware this generation that's so different from before and will once again come down to where devs want to put their resources, just like always.
I think once developers really start upping the ante in terms of visual candy, there will be more and more pressure to use that power for keeping in line or pushing the boundaries rather than going for outright performance.
Neither approach is inherently wrong. Both are great in their own way. I'm just curious how it'll play out. There's nothing particularly special about the hardware this generation that's so different from before and will once again come down to where devs want to put their resources, just like always.
velociraptor
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Cornbread78
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He's gotta be talking about indies..
Focus on 3rd party VITA games Shahid. Where's my NBA 2K14 for VITA? Where are all my RPGs? Lets go!
Focus on 3rd party VITA games Shahid. Where's my NBA 2K14 for VITA? Where are all my RPGs? Lets go!
shiftplusone
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Resogun and don't starve and binding of Isaac and outlast will be 1080p/60
Assassin's creed 5 or ff15 or deep down? Who knows
Assassin's creed 5 or ff15 or deep down? Who knows
maverick40
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Shots have been fired except this time they hit Microsoft square in the face with no defense.
I doubt it was intended as the kind of PR blast many have taken it as, Shahid is a legit gamer and appreciates a lot of what goes in to the 'feel' of a game, at least that's what came across when we met in person last September and he jumped at the chance to play and discuss my work.
Since his team is all about strategic content I wouldn't be surprised if he's pursuing games that have those targets in mind, plus as many have said lots of indie games will be running at 1080p/60. PC gamer's have been enjoying 1080p/60 (and higher) for years now and there's really no reason why we shouldn't strive for that kind of standard on consoles.
I'm actually so happy that all parties seem to be emphasizing the importance of 60fps this generation (Halo 5 announcement, Battlefield on console, for example) as I've spent years trying to convince developers I worked with that framerate has a direct impact on game feel. Roll on 2014.
Since his team is all about strategic content I wouldn't be surprised if he's pursuing games that have those targets in mind, plus as many have said lots of indie games will be running at 1080p/60. PC gamer's have been enjoying 1080p/60 (and higher) for years now and there's really no reason why we shouldn't strive for that kind of standard on consoles.
I'm actually so happy that all parties seem to be emphasizing the importance of 60fps this generation (Halo 5 announcement, Battlefield on console, for example) as I've spent years trying to convince developers I worked with that framerate has a direct impact on game feel. Roll on 2014.
maverick40
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But 60fps is always better
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Barack Lesnar
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Jesus, I'm tired of this 60 fps obsession. It makes shit look fake and static and we get less graphical effects on consoles with it. God...never seen such an annoying vocal minority. I played Crysis 3 at like 25 fps average on my PC and had a blast. I'm a fucking wizard.
velociraptor
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30FPS is fine unless you try playing 30FPS games on PC.
For some bizarre reason, I find them absolutely unplayable. They're a stuttering mess. On the other hand, I put so many hours in TLOU multiplayer despite only running at 30FPS. It felt fun.
60FPS only matters to me in action games and racing games. As for everything else, they're a nice bonus.
Barack Lesnar
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Yeah, fighting, racing, and sports games. Everything else idgaf.
Edit- Actually I'm fine with 30 fps racers, so just fighting and sports games.
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"60 fps or death" huh?
Knack and Killzone (singleplayer) says "welcome back to reality man"
I'm not saying that is a catastrophe, but it's weird being so cocky about the 60 fps stuff in this situation
Knack and Killzone (singleplayer) says "welcome back to reality man"
I'm not saying that is a catastrophe, but it's weird being so cocky about the 60 fps stuff in this situation
velociraptor
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I'm not too fussed as to what framerate they give provided the game is smooth and doesn't have any input lag.
I would rather have a 30FPS game that looks like The Division than 1080p60 that looks like COD Ghosts mind you.
I'm going to need a source here.
I knew it was going to be unlocked, like the other two, but I never heard of this. :lol
PairOfFilthySocks
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Are any of Sony's first party games 1080p/60fps? Killzone isn't(unlocked != 60), Knack isn't, Infamous isn't, The Order isn't.
MADGAME
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Yea, why not. Unless they make the cities really populated and full of life, then I'll take the dip. But I think InFamous games traditionally run at unlocked frame rates, so this one will probably do the same. I'm calling 40fps+ similar to KZ's SP. But we shall see.
Only KZ SF's MP. 1080p/60fps. Unless you count indie games. Resogun is also 1080p/60fps.
I can't tell who's serious and who is kidding.
Interfectum
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Disgusting.
Stiflers Mom
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I know, more is always better, but I have to admit, Vanquishs locked 30 FPS were good enough for me.
Well, that's for sure.
He comes across as a little bit too overenthusiastic sometimes, imo.
Well, that's for sure.
He comes across as a little bit too overenthusiastic sometimes, imo.
This, and badly.
If there's anything that hubris has taught us, it's that douchebags like us gamers are now standing at the gates with pitchforks waiting for him to make a mistake.
Thats not what GAF told me in the Ratchet and Clank: Into the Nexus thread.
Bernkastel
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I wonder what the two words we will hear for PS5 are. GAF will probably still think "shots fired".
MightySquirrel
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Dam I hope history won't repeat itself .
BattleScar
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Dude....let it go...
kretos
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azertydu91
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Congrats you earned my first ignore with such a pathetic necrobump.
MasterCornholio
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alabtrosMyster
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and you complain about console warriors in the other thread? How ironic...
Danny Dudekisser
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or, "NECRO BUMP"
MasterCornholio
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