well no shit .. breaking the solder isnt a equal thing on all cables. some of cables will some wont. but more and more melted cables are popping up and the way those cables are built are the fault. corsir makes a cable that arer separate connections and have not melted.
I see what you did there.
The old way was to have the xx70 match and/or beat the range topper of the prior generation.
It actually is because he didn't replicate it. The maximum temp he got was 68c under load. That is in spec.
Why does that matter?
I value what is true and factual over what the hive-group thinks.
Which is what is up for discussion. Is it the connector. Is it user error. Is it both?
How is breaking the solder the same thing as pulling the pins out of the connector? I’m not saying there’s no problem with the cable. I’m saying his diagnosis of the root cause is complete bullshit.
So do I - arguing over semantics doesn't negate that there's an issue to be resolved.
Just for the record and by his own admission Buildzoid was a computer science student. Not an electrician or electrical engineer but has been doing his current OC stuff for a good few years. That said I don't think he is full of shit.
There’s no way they could possibly tell what cable a user plugs into the card…
I didn't claim it to be enforceable the only real way they could know if ask rmas to include cables.
Discussing what is causing the issue isn't arguing over semantics, it's the title of the thread.
If it's preventable by someone actually plugging the cable in correctly then I think it does matter.
I've just made a post showing they're wrong.
What's absurd is you turning up and telling me I can't post in a thread about a connector issue when I'm discussing a connector issue.
And I've just showed you that it is.
So you are saying that due to being metal, that it cannot transfer heat from the plates? Look again, those side pins, have just one single plate (per pin), it definitely happens at the solder joints.Discussing what is causing the issue isn't arguing over semantics, it's the title of the thread.
If it's preventable by someone actually plugging the cable in correctly then I think it does matter.
Everyone is saying that it's to do with the cables in the rear of the connector breaking. If that was the case then the melting would be happening near that location where the cable joins to the connector and you'd see it melt the shrinkwrap and actual cable. It isn't. The images all show the melting occurring right at the tip of the connector where it meets the GPU socket, as you can see on all the images.
It isn't a break in the connector due to stress or damage, it's the connector not plugged in correctly and having poor contact with the GPU socket. Am I wasting my time trying to explain this to people?
If you have a burnt card connector and your power cable is normal I think they'd be able to spot it.
I'm saying that it has heatshrink near the cable end. if the heat was at that end then the thin heatshrink would melt first, along with burns on the cable sleave. That isn't happening. It's all happening at the pin end. The opposite end to which the youtube vids are saying. If the connector is breaking at the point where the youtube videos are claiming then that would be the point of resistance and where the heat would first build up. I've yet to see signs of heat build up at that point on any of the burnt cables.
Just because your favourite youtuber says something doesn't make it so. None of the youtubers have managed to get the cables to overheat. Even the one you linked to.
So after all his fucking around all he managed to do was to throw 600w down it and get it to raise to 68' which wasn't hot enough to raise a sweat.
I have provided valid responses to everything you’ve stated. Everything I’ve posted is directly related to the topic at hand.
that's it? You're not refuting anything, you're here to throw some petty insults, show the world your .gif animation upload skills and boast about some imaginary superiority you believe you have. Your whole point was man on youtube says something different and I'm thick.
Lol.
If we went by last gen, 4080 should have been the 4090 Die with less RAM priced at 850 or so, 4090 Should have had more cores unlocked leaving a little overhead for the 4090 Ti. What we got instead was "Let's jack up the prices of the 4070/Ti and call them 4080s to make the 3000 series at their launch prices still look like a good move because we have way too many of them left."I aint drinking the koolaid till I see someone actually making it.
Ive woken up in New Orleans when I started the night in Houston one too many times to just drink this shit up.
I see what you did there.
The old way was to have the xx70 match and/or beat the range topper of the prior generation.
Basically wait two years to own the xxTi of last gen with less memory.
The "4070" will only be a success if it can absolutely walk a 3090Ti.
The 4080'12G was an embarrassment, Nvidia had the biggest balls thinking of charging 900+ dollars and calling it an xx80.............even if they rebadge it as a 4070 its probably the weakest xx70 of all time.
Nvidias greed has totally clouded their judgment, but consumer sheepism will continue to provide them with success.
The 4080 should have been on the same AD102 as the 4090, just cut down with 20G memory.
The 4070 should have been a cut down AD103.
The 4070Ti would/should have been whats called the 4080'16G right now.
Design of the connector or the plug/adapter? That’s the first time I’ve seen a pic of the actual connector burnt.That's the 12th recorded instance so far.
Bullzoid thinks it is happening because of the connector design:
Well that and the time he couldn't open a box. (Ok, it was a crate and he destroyed the crate to get the computer out. I was thinking, "There's got to be more screws you moron, go look for them.")
I would say it’s about quality control. The soldering is absolutely horrible and some cables are bad. Hard to say how the soldering is on the good cables but if you’re not bending the cable close to the connector and if you’ve been using it for awhile already and you can’t see any results from heating, then I can’t see why you would have to worry.
Thats literally the definition of sheepism.
IF it has a different pinout it'll be an interesting smoke machine for a few seconds.
