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[64bitmodels]

Sony games belong to the most pirated games on pc. Sony is one of the few devs who are completely drm free but they get punished for it.

Anyway this cant be excused, any trash survival game on pc is selling more than those can't be it.

Looks like PC Gamers just decided to pirate after awhile

Can we get any source for these? pretty bs claims looking at this

Sequels, Triqiels, Off-spins of same franchises because it's only way to survive. Is it looking good to you?

Sure, call them sequels or triquels or whatever the fuck. Just stop with this "third person animated movies" bullshit. That's Xbot rhetoric and it's getting fucking exhausting especially considering these games wouldn't be 50% as interesting if they ACTUALLY WERE movies.

 

[64bitmodels]

2.6m to port Ratchet.
Just an email to get funded.

.... 2.5m for a basic ass port. One of the highest quality ones too.

Sorry, the ports aren't stopping. even the lowest selling on that list probably broke even (not like Sackboy sold well on PS5 either.... this was probably a desperate measure to get some more milk out of that game)

 

[Mowcno]

"Rift Apart PC port was estimated to cost $2.6m and took under 5 months"

This is why. At such a low cost to port even taking 30% fees into account Ratchet only needed to sell 62k copies to break even.

 

[Fabieter]

Can we get any source for these? pretty bs claims looking at this


Sure, call them sequels or triquels or whatever the fuck. Just stop with this "third person animated movies" bullshit. That's Xbot rhetoric and it's getting fucking exhausting especially considering these games wouldn't be 50% as interesting if they ACTUALLY WERE movies.

Sources go against the rules on gaf but these sites have downloads numbers and with other ways you see the ammount of leechers day one for these games. Its DRM free bro. You dont have to believe it but they certainty not bullshi claims just because you dont like it.

 

[alucard0712_rus]

Can we get any source for these? pretty bs claims looking at this


Sure, call them sequels or triquels or whatever the fuck. Just stop with this "third person animated movies" bullshit. That's Xbot rhetoric and it's getting fucking exhausting especially considering these games wouldn't be 50% as interesting if they ACTUALLY WERE movies.

I'm sorry that you have so little tolerance about the topic but I never was anyone's fanboy. I have all the consoles + PC and VR stuff. Xbox is unjustified because most their games come to PC and still I'm not interested much in their exclusives. I'm just talking about real gaming business circumstances where if you release a BIG hit you no longer free as developer - you must release sequel to maximize profit realize the potential and all the buzz.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Sony games belong to the most pirated games on pc. Sony is one of the few devs who are completely drm free but they get punished for it.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Yikes, low but expected. The PC gaming market is very different from the console space.

Bethesda originally jumped to Consoles and left PC gamers behind, because they made so much more money selling console games than PC games. So it makes sense that going the other direction would have disappointing sales. PC is not free money, it is a very competitive market where crappy games just die.

 

[Fabieter]

"Rift Apart PC port was estimated to cost $2.6m and took under 5 months"

This is why. At such a low cost to port even taking 30% fees into account Ratchet only needed to sell 62k copies to break even.

So game companies dont pay taxes and all countries pay 60 bucks for their games go ya.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Sources go against the rules on gaf but these sites have downloads numbers and with other ways you see the ammount of leechers day one for these games. Its DRM free bro. You dont have to believe it but they certainty not bullshi claims just because you dont like it.

Being DRM free certainly didn't stop the likes of Elden Ring, Baldurs Gate 3 and Cyberpunk from being super high top chart sellers tho, selling more on PC than consoles even. Same for shittons of other games.

 

[64bitmodels]

You guys still absolutely positive a Bloodborne port will sell many millions of copies on the PC after seeing this? I didn’t expect the numbers to be really good or remotely close to PlayStation sales because PC gamers are an entirely different audience. Sure, it’s a little extra money, but I’m sure Sony expected more than this.

Horizon Zero Dawn sold many millions on PC over the course of 3 years. I'm sure a game PC gamers are actually interested in (so much so that it is one of the leading games driving the progess in the PS4 emulation scene) would do gangbusters

Sources go against the rules on gaf but these sites have downloads numbers and with other ways you see the ammount of leechers day one for these games. Its DRM free bro. You dont have to believe it but they certainty not bullshi claims just because you dont like it.

These claims don't seem to apply to every other third party publisher releasing on PC, judging by how you guys aren't the first to spring up regarding the sales of Baldur's Gate 3 on PC or whatever. It only magically becomes an issue when Sony games are in the crop.

 

[Beechos]

Weren't most of these games top selling games on steam? Maybe pc gamers don't buy games like that? Is this like trying to downplay when ms announces x amount of players playing a game.

 

[Fabieter]

Being DRM free certainly didn't stop the likes of Elden Ring, Baldurs Gate 3 and Cyberpunk from being super high top chart sellers tho, selling more on PC than consoles even. Same for shittons of other games.

Two if them are super pc foccused game developer. And baldurs gate 3 and elden ring has a big focus on multiplayer. Well it certainty influences people if they aint super hype about a release that they will rather pirate them.

 

[Thaedolus]

Release your games way later in a poor state and the reaction is “lol PC?”

C’mon. There’s absolutely no reason for me to double dip on something like TLOU when the PC version was a total mess and the PS5 version supports VRR. The Microsoft delivery has been so much better, which is ironically why I don’t need to own an Xbox…I wouldn’t own a PS5 either if Sony actually got their PC shit together

 

[64bitmodels]

Looks like PC gamers dont care about Spiderman.

I think we should pause on the spiderman stuff. Those games were only around for a couple months at the date of this leak. It's the end of 2023, they could've broken a mil or 2 by now. It's about legs in PC land.

 

[Fabieter]

I think we should pause on the spiderman stuff. Those games were only around for a couple months at the date of this leak. It's the end of 2023, they could've broken a mil or 2 by now. It's about legs in PC land.

All this excuses in this thread show that no platform is better than other's as far as defensive force goes.

 

[TheKratos]

PC is the land of fuckers who spend gazillion on PCs but only buy games on discounts.

 

[GreenAlien]

Not surprised Uncharted didn't sell so well. The "collection" is missing most games of the series.. I am reluctant to buy it because of that as well. Who wants to start a connected series with the last game?

 

[Guilty_AI]

Two if them are super pc foccused game developer. And baldurs gate 3 and elden ring has a big focus on multiplayer. Well it certainty influences people if they aint super hype about a release that they will rather pirate them.

Oh, so Sony games aren't "super hype"? The leaps of logic some go.

 

[64bitmodels]

All this excuses in this thread show that no platform is better than other's as far as defensive force goes.

yea bro that includes yours as well

 

[saintjules]

That's the price you pay for releasing them 2 or 3 years later.
By that time anyone who wanted to play that game already played it on console.

But if you release them Day 1 on PC then there's no incentive to get the console, so if they're not willing to do Day 1 releases might as well not release them at all, doesn't seem to be worth it.

But maybe to level it out they release the game on PC within 6 months to max 1 year after Console release.

I'd certainly play the game on Console over PC. I like playing on my big TV screen in my living room. Though I have done the HDMI from my pc to the living room before.

 

[Guilty_AI]

All this excuses in this thread show that no platform is better than other's as far as defensive force goes.

You're the only one spouting excuses here.

Time you took some as well

 

[Senua]

PC is the land of fuckers who spend gazillion on PCs but only buy games on discounts.

Well duh we're broke

 

[Thaedolus]

PC is the land of fuckers who spend gazillion on PCs but only buy games on discounts.

Physical media on PC is practically extinct, but I can still trade/borrow games on my PS5 or Switch

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Because From Software's games sell extremely well on PC?
40% Dark Souls Sales were on PC, 44% for Elden Ring.

Source 1: Dark Souls Series Has Sold Over 8 Million Copies, 40% of Which Were on the PC
Source 2: Elden Ring is the biggest new IP since The Division | European Monthly Charts

Elden Ring and Dark Souls also sold significantly better on PlayStation than Demon's Souls too...

 

[Mowcno]

So game companies dont pay taxes and all countries pay 60 bucks for their games go ya.

It's a simplification. If you're bringing up taxes then the $2.6m they spent on porting it count as expenses so... Stop being all anal about it. The point is they don't need to sell a lot to break even when the cost of porting Ratchet was only $2.6 million.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Not a surprise to anyone who was paying attention. Most of these are probably double dips too.

I doubt it. People double dip for GTA, not Sony games.

 

[Robb]

Those Sackboy sales just make me sad.

 

[Fabieter]

Oh, so Sony games aren't "super hype"? The leaps of logic some go.

What leaps of logic that the audience on pc isnt hyped enough to buy the gamws but are interested enough download it illegally. The pc defense force is exactly the same than all the other platforms.

 

[Senua]

What leaps of logic that the audience on pc isnt hyped enough to buy the gamws but are interested enough download it illegally. The pc defense force is exactly the same than all the other platforms.

Dude piracy is a thing with all PC games, it doesn't stop companies still making fuck loads of profit. Piracy is always going to be a thing, but more people buy games than steal.

 

[Buggy Loop]

The blandest game is the highest seller on that chart.

It was the first one.

After playing that PC crowd probably had a sour taste in their mouth (I sure did) and realized that Sony games weren’t magic, didn’t make you come rainbows every 30 seconds like hype would make you believe.

But they’re dumb enough over there to be sitting on Bloodborne..

 

[Fabieter]

Dude piracy is a thing with all PC games, it doesn't stop companies still making fuck loads of profit. Piracy is always going to be a thing, but more people buy games than steal.

List me more than 10 aaa franchises without multiplayer where drm isnt heavily implemented?

And believe me i know i probably played more on pc than most of those pc fanboys here.

 

[64bitbros]

Weak sales and I'd wager a lot of them are repeat purchases by PlayStation owners.

Yeah, games that have recouped their costs already on console. Selling a few million units on pc at full price at minimal cost, terrible sales. /s

 

[Kilau]

 

[Senua]

List me more than 10 aaa franchises without multiplayer where drm isnt heavily implemented?

And believe me i know i probably played more on pc than most of those pc fanboys here.

I don't even know what your point is now, you're just babbling incoherently.

 

[Fabieter]

I don't even know what your point is now, you're just babbling incoherently.

Most aaa games nowadays have DRM and that's helping alot with day one sales period.

 

[Facism]

Well they're releasing poor ports late on a platform where its users have more choice and actual self-respect

 

[Guilty_AI]

What leaps of logic that the audience on pc isnt hyped enough to buy the gamws but are interested enough download it illegally. The pc defense force is exactly the same than all the other platforms.

Nah pal. Here's the truth you don't want to accept:

A. Hype-based game from years ago that saw several discounts and giveaways were never gonna sell nearly as much as their original releases. No matter how much you in particular puts these games on a pedestal.

B. Piracy for sony games is no different than for any other drm-free game on the platform (most of them) because there's 0 reason to believe so. Hasn't been an issue for years, hasn't stopped the pc market from thriving, certainly isn't stopping sony from keeping the ports coming.

C. PC gamers aren't desperate for Sony games (unless its a game called Bloodborne), the ones who are already bought and played them on the console ages ago. Despite what you may believe, their games aren't "best in class" by some strange universal metric. Its a big world out there with all sorts of tastes, there are countless people who will take a look at spider-man and go 'meh'. The ones left to buy them would always be double-dippers or people whose interest in these games is mild at best.

 

[Senua]

Most aaa games nowadays have DRM and that's helping alot with day one sales period.

I reckon pirates are tight arses and will just wait for the inevitable crack.

 

[Schmendrick]

List me more than 10 aaa franchises without multiplayer where drm isnt heavily implemented?

And believe me i know i probably played more on pc than most of those pc fanboys here.

 

[squarealex]

Pretty shit ass sales. Might as well keep them exclusive, JIM

Of course shit sales.
PC players pirate games.
And Sony not include Denuvo
All Sony pc port was day one on tracker cie

 

[FunkMiller]

Oh look, giving away the exclusivity for your games isn't good business practice. Who'd have fucking thunk it?

 

[The Cockatrice]

Shocking that releasing an unfinished Uncharted release would sell poorly lmao, what the fuck were they thinking with that? Why would anyone start with the 4th? Also its clear no one gives a shit about Miles Morales no matter how much they'll try to shove him up our throats.

 

[Senua]

Of course shit sales.
PC players pirate games.
And Sony not include Denuvo
All Sony pc port was day one on tracker cie

 

[Buggy Loop]

Yikes, low but expected. The PC gaming market is very different from the console space.

Honestly, owning most of these and I must come to the conclusion that a lot of hype around these releases is because they start as exclusives on a box and tribalism makes it good, other box bad.

Peoples expected that Sony would sweep in PC gaming to show us how AAA games are supposed to be, those poor PC guys with no real high budget AAA games, stuck with survivals, rogue, sims, experimental games and mods… they needed saving.

They would port Spider-Man 2 tomorrow and I wouldn’t even install it if it was given.

There’s many things I could say about modern PlayStation that does not resonate with me compared to their PSX & PS2 days but that’s starting a war with too many peoples in this place and even mods are on the button..

So, that’s the results anyway

 

[calistan]

What did Insomniac do to deserve this? Currently 9 of the first 10 threads on this forum are people digging through the company's garbage.

 

[Fabieter]

I reckon pirates are tight arses and will just wait for the inevitable crack.

Seems like all i said is wrong and iam stupid thanks for your attention.

 

[Guilty_AI]

iam stupid

 

[DonJimbo]

Extra revenue which is exactly what he got.

Even with the abysmal sales numbers was and is it really worth ?
It would be better the exclusives stay on consoles their supposed to be played

 

[Thirty7ven]

Would love to see how much Xbox games sell on PC, because from the looks of it some people are making it look like they do gangbusters.

 

[Senua]

Even with the abysmal sales numbers was and is it really worth ?
It would be better the exclusives stay on consoles their supposed to be played

They aren't abysmal for full priced, years old ports. Sony made a lot of profit, even if it was at the expense of your tears.