Really Purdy Graphics.Mat “Horizon Zero Dawn is an RPG” Piscatella
Is this true, inflation-adjusted?Hardware spending was higher in 2023 than each year from 2010 to 2021 - were consoles dying in those years too?
console sales specifically haven't been increasing at all.
Spitting facts.
It is like he trying to be relevant outside of the monthly/yearly Circana numbers, but really....he just isn't.
Accounting for inflation, has the price really increase that much? I remember buying PS3 / X360 for $299 around 2008.The price of them has been. Maybe these two things are connected?
Accounting for inflation, has the price really increase that much? I remember buying PS3 / X360 for $299 around 2008.
Hardware spending was higher in 2023 than each year from 2010 to 2021 - were consoles dying in those years too?
I don't see where he said consoles were dying. He just said that hardware spending peaked in 2008.Hardware spending was higher in 2023 than each year from 2010 to 2021 - were consoles dying in those years too?
2008 was such a bad year for gaming.Some might argue, AAA ingenuity and experimentation peaked around 2008
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Came to say this. The Wii sales were a complete anomaly. Pretty much every I knew had one, gamers, nongamers, kids, adults etc. Mainly just for Wii sports bowling. I would also argue that was the last time that all 3 consoles manufacturers were on their A game. That was right away the time PS3 started to turn it around with their games. Wii had the casual crowd on lock and the 360 was in the middle of their best gen. Don't think it's too surprising when you think about it. Not a coincidence that it was high in 09 too then started too fall off in 2010 when Wii started to lose steam and Xbox invested in Kinect.Mat is a bit of an idiot who has a platform because he has access to data that most don't.
Suggesting that gaming peaked in spending in 2008 when most of the spending was on the Wii and was from non core-gamers is highly misleading.
He isn't entirely wrong in his analysis that younger people aren't as interested in consoles, but just because you get to the right conclusion doesn't make your math right.
We've largely seen growth in core gaming, the Wii was largely a fluke that had little overall impact on the industry overall. 3rd party games weren't selling on the Wii. If we looked at just software sales it would show us a clearer picture of the health of the industry and how much of an outlier the Wii was.
Edit: Imagine putting smartphone sales into the hardware equation because people can play games on them. That's how ridiculous his argument is here.
I wonder when kids will start saying that about Fortnite and everything else. I buy games monthly and I don’t think I’d bother if all I got was Fortnite, Minecraft, and Warzone.The youngsters aren't buying consoles probably because almost the entire lineup of modern AAA releases are made up of 20 year old game design philosophies made for an older audience.
Came to say this. The Wii sales were a complete anomaly. Pretty much every I knew had one, gamers, nongamers, kids, adults etc. Mainly just for Wii sports bowling. I would also argue that was the last time that all 3 consoles manufacturers were on their A game. That was right away the time PS3 started to turn it around with their games. Wii had the casual crowd on lock and the 360 was in the middle of their best gen. Don't think it's too surprising when you think about it. Not a coincidence that it was high in 09 too then started too fall off in 2010 when Wii started to lose steam and Xbox invested in Kinect.
I don't see where he said consoles were dying. He just said that hardware spending peaked in 2008.
Filtering outliers is a pretty basic component of data analysis.
He's an absolute fraud and/or a moron.
It's also worth noting that the PS2 was purchased by non-gamers just to use it as a DVD player.
Consoles now are really primarily game machines for the first time since the PS1/N64/Saturn generation, even more so than the PS4/X1 which acted very much as streaming devices when at the time most people didn't have smart TVs. Yet the PS5 is on pace to outsell the PS4 and will ultimately probably outsell the difference in the X1 and XBS.
This is a basic sum sliced by year. There's no reason to filter outliers when its just a sum if the sum is the answer you're looking for.Filtering outliers is a pretty basic component of data analysis.
He's an absolute fraud and/or a moron.
It's also worth noting that the PS2 was purchased by non-gamers just to use it as a DVD player.
Consoles now are really primarily game machines for the first time since the PS1/N64/Saturn generation, even more so than the PS4/X1 which acted very much as streaming devices when at the time most people didn't have smart TVs. Yet the PS5 is on pace to outsell the PS4 and will ultimately probably outsell the difference in the X1 and XBS.
I mean it's still something to consider. The PS2 had a ton of casual games that had people interested. We don't have stuff like Sing star and Dance Dance Revolution anymore and I know a bunch of people who bought consoles just for stuff like that. All those casual people are on phones and it's a market that consoles just don't have anymoreMat is a bit of an idiot who has a platform because he has access to data that most don't.
Suggesting that gaming peaked in spending in 2008 when most of the spending was on the Wii and was from non core-gamers is highly misleading.
He isn't entirely wrong in his analysis that younger people aren't as interested in consoles, but just because you get to the right conclusion doesn't make your math right.
We've largely seen growth in core gaming, the Wii was largely a fluke that had little overall impact on the industry overall. 3rd party games weren't selling on the Wii. If we looked at just software sales it would show us a clearer picture of the health of the industry and how much of an outlier the Wii was.
Edit: Imagine putting smartphone sales into the hardware equation because people can play games on them. That's how ridiculous his argument is here.
I mean it's still something to consider. The PS2 had a ton of casual games that had people interested. We don't have stuff like Sing star and Dance Dance Revolution anymore and I know a bunch of people who bought consoles just for stuff like that. All those casual people are on phones and it's a market that consoles just don't have anymore
I don't see where he said consoles were dying. He just said that hardware spending peaked in 2008.
I find it strange, the gaming media, just glosses over that important fact whenever the comparisons start.Suppose he is comparing consoles and excluding portables from the equation. In that case, another possible reason sales are less than in 2008 is that the XBS console is severely underperforming compared to the Xbox 360. Sure the PS5 is overperforming compared to the PS3, but XBS sales are atrocious, and it's the main reason for pulling the market down compared to 2008. Thank Phil for the dead weight.