I'm pathetic enough at this game to go this way every time I enter a dungeon, even the first one, which I beat half of in the demo.
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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I'm pathetic enough at this game to go this way every time I enter a dungeon, even the first one, which I beat half of in the demo.
four had the first interesting puzzles in the game.
one was a variation of something from the deku tree in oot, and another was a matter of a flip of a switch, but the exploration part was well done, so i liked it.
what i wanted to see from this game was what ead tokyo did with smg2 and the nsmb guys did with nsmbw. i wanted to see ways around 3d (well 2d in the nsmb team's case) space that i've never done in a zelda game before. granted, you have more room to play when it's a platformer, but a lot of stuff from the game feels like it's lifted from the wind waker. seriously, bring on the crazy. i think we could all handle something like the stone tower temple in terms of complexity.
i do think new weapons should be spoiler tagged, but not stuff like bombs or slingshots. we know that's in every Zelda game
I don't think Anihawk's "spoiler" was much of something to complain about, but there have been very many spoilers in this topic which have been worth complaining over. It is what it is though...
I don't think Anihawk's "spoiler" was much of something to complain about, but there have been very many spoilers in this topic which have been worth complaining over. It is what it is though...
brandonh83
Banned
Finally... back home after the Thanksgiving/Black Friday torture... I can finally resume the game. Currently
finding the pieces to get into the mining facility, really loving the music and time stones
Played through the first dungeon now. Can't say I'm really liking it that much yet.
The start was dreadfully slow and there's just too much handholding and too much dialogue.
The controls works well enough but I haven't exactly felt any great revelation about how awesome motion controls are. The battles still aren't that much different from normal 3d Zelda and overall it feels a bit clunky.
I'm not normally one to complain about Zelda needing to reinvent itself all the time, but this actually does feels a bit same-old. Maybe it's because I'm coming straight from Mario 3D Land, which is the absolutely perfect evolution of a series and one of the best games I've ever played. I'd love to see a Zelda game take some queues from that. Remove all cinematic nonsense and all the outdrawn tutorials and focus on making insanely smooth gameplay, and have the world be more like zelda 1.
The start was dreadfully slow and there's just too much handholding and too much dialogue.
The controls works well enough but I haven't exactly felt any great revelation about how awesome motion controls are. The battles still aren't that much different from normal 3d Zelda and overall it feels a bit clunky.
I'm not normally one to complain about Zelda needing to reinvent itself all the time, but this actually does feels a bit same-old. Maybe it's because I'm coming straight from Mario 3D Land, which is the absolutely perfect evolution of a series and one of the best games I've ever played. I'd love to see a Zelda game take some queues from that. Remove all cinematic nonsense and all the outdrawn tutorials and focus on making insanely smooth gameplay, and have the world be more like zelda 1.
I never had a single problem with the WW Triforce thing. If you're someone who enjoys aimlessly exploring and discovering things off the main quest (which you absolutely should be if you're into the whole Zelda thing) then you should've already discovered a few pieces or at least charts by the time it finding them becomes required.
And at that point I was extra relieved the game finally wasn't pressuring me to go to any one place, I felt completely free to see everything the ocean had to offer, plus some recommended things to get done along the way.
If the part between dungeon 3 and 4 is what people are comparing to it, that's truly sad. That was incredibly linear and in no way analogous.
And at that point I was extra relieved the game finally wasn't pressuring me to go to any one place, I felt completely free to see everything the ocean had to offer, plus some recommended things to get done along the way.
If the part between dungeon 3 and 4 is what people are comparing to it, that's truly sad. That was incredibly linear and in no way analogous.
ShockingAlberto
Member
That part is always the most tense for me.
Having to avoid all the spotlights and ground guards, knowing that if they catch me with the light I can't shake off the guards and just have to race them back to the light circle, makes me cautious as hell.
but you didnt love them enough to replay the game
Right?
Just beat the game. All the final stuff was amazing.
In terms of gameplay this is definitely my favorite zelda since OoT and while the story and characters are awesome WW still tops the field in those departments. SS has the best ending though, really touching.
I really love the motion controls, by the end I was so efficient in taking out enemies, switching items, solving puzzles etc. Felt great to control. Now off to the spoilers thread to discuss! Even though the game has some flaws I can understand the 10/10 scores. Its not perfect but its good far outshines the bad and its high points are great.
I loved mowing through rows and rows of baddies to reach Ghirahim. It was like playing lord of the rings for a moment. Ghirahim looks badass in his final form and him being a sword spirit like Fi was a great reveal. The Demise looks great as well. I love the energy flowing design Nintendo gave him. He was a pretty hard boss. I had about 4 hearts left but I did have a faery in a bottle as well. I was glad to see Nintendo keeping the tradition of an awesome final strike alive.
I also like how it sets up the zelda traditions that follow while keeping things vague enough to be a "legend".
then we're agreed.
EmCeeGramr
Member
We should return to the gold standard.
And sorry Benjamin Franklin, but Daylight Savings Time is dumb.
Well...you see... there's this contest that happens yearly that is televised on Discovery Channel every November. People try to build various contraptions that chuck Pumpkins across the map. The event is called "Punkin' Chunkin'", and there is even a national association that deals with the rules and such for the event.
The reason it relates to this game... is because in this game you can skewer the pumpkins with your sword and then chuck them.
But as I said earlier if I have to explain the joke it's not very effective so I have no attachment anymore to said title
cajunator said:
False equivalency. this is not an RPG. It's an action adventure game. What may work in one genre would not work in another. Similarly, I wouldn't accept this level of handholding and fetch questing and padding from any RPG, let alone one of the greatest franchises ever. So yeah... dumb
Slurpy2k20
Member
From my experience with the game so far, this review absolutely nails it and echoes my thoughts completely.
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/11/skyward-sword/
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/11/skyward-sword/
storafötter
Member
Been playing a bit more since the last time, and the camera still annoys me. I have at least gotten more used to the flying controls, so they aren't that bad as I thought but could be better.
One minor annoyance is Fi, I wish she didn't have to speak to me unless I asked her to along with the slow text scrolling and the auto tune beeps. The game is a lot more fun than it was in the beginning, but the desert area now is not that much fun. I know it will get better as I have barely scratched the surface, but I have seen a lot issues already unfortunately with the game design. The music is probably the first time where Zelda music has been underwhelming and forgettable (although I didn't play the DS zeldas, or TP). The only times where I have liked the music is
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One minor annoyance is Fi, I wish she didn't have to speak to me unless I asked her to along with the slow text scrolling and the auto tune beeps. The game is a lot more fun than it was in the beginning, but the desert area now is not that much fun. I know it will get better as I have barely scratched the surface, but I have seen a lot issues already unfortunately with the game design. The music is probably the first time where Zelda music has been underwhelming and forgettable (although I didn't play the DS zeldas, or TP). The only times where I have liked the music is
when you fight Ghigharim, and that miniboss skeleton in the first dungeon
Most of this game has nice art direction and good graphics "for a Wii game", but (post dungeon 3 spoilers)
Otherwise the graphics are really growing on me.
the Imprisoner is just terrible. Some late 90s tech demo awful graphics and cheap character design. A shapeless blob of black smoke would be 10x better. And the spiral pit looks like it came from a crappy N64 game. No art at all to that area just a perfunctory ramp and generic "grass" texture. I don't know what happened here but it's surprisingly bad. It looks like a last minute addition.
Otherwise the graphics are really growing on me.
left
cosmicblizzard
Banned
I am TERRIBLE at the harp. Took me like 10 minutes to get the tune lined up with the circle and I nearly killed my arm doing it. Hopefully I get better.
sounds quirky.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Using a PR spiel from Reggie as a jumping off point seems like kind of poor writing.
SlipperySlope
Banned
WTF? I can't get past one of the eye things because when my Wiimote is straight up, it seems to lose connection for the next five seconds and the sword won't go anywhere no matter where I point the Wiimote. So I can't do the rotation to get past the eye thing.
Edit - I think it has to do with the game trying to charge up the sword. But I'm trying to get past a eye thing, not charge up the sword!
Edit - I think it has to do with the game trying to charge up the sword. But I'm trying to get past a eye thing, not charge up the sword!
Don't see how this is relevant to the Zelda cycle.
storafötter
Member
I dont even remember it! (edit)..
I just checked it now and sorry it is not doing it for me..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiYecdMH94w
Am I alone in liking this type of theme? It is very different from the usual Zelda tune.
Jaded Alyx
Member
I'm not far in the game, but I've never had to hold the wiimote straight up in the air when rotating the eyeballs.
i was amused that they did the
"It's a secret to everybody"
octopus one hidden behind the bomb wall made me crack a smile.
storafötter;32983312 said:
Man it's so mystical Fi's theme, all floating and gorgeous and shit
but yeah the miniboss theme aint bad at all
and it doesn't help that
you face him 3 times, the last two being literally 10 minutes apart from eachother
EmCeeGramr
Member
LITERALLY
Although I do agree they could have rolled the last two into one fight, as I liked the Groosenator concept and the part where you have to fling yourself at the head.
DrForester
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SlipperySlope
Banned
Oh, I got it now. It was in the first dungeon.
EmCeeGramr
Member
That is some interesting quoting and spoiler-tagging.
AzureRonin
Member
This is definitely one of my favourite pieces of music from Skyward Sword.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCpAFkdy9Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCpAFkdy9Ls
yup that is the one I was talking about when I was discussing Fi's theme. I guess it's not her theme. But still, what a gorgeous track... one of the best tracks of any Zelda game period.
sweet! i am currently at the beginning of Dungeon #6 and up to that point it sure was an amazing journey. I can't wait what other stuff awaits me after that.
I wanted to make it interesting.
AzureRonin
Member
actually you're right it is her theme. The version I posted is just more understated. This is Fi's Theme, same flute part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRPheoucN_0&feature=related
Edit: I think the simpler mix is more powerful.
ah yeah. I think the Follow Fi one is best though. What a gorgeous track.
Well pay attention
She didn't get eaten by a whale thing. That was a dream. She fell into a tornado. Your motivation for most of the game is to find Zelda. You know she's not in too much danger because you find out shortly after landing in Faron that Zelda got away from the bad guys. Dungeon 2 adds urgency when you find out Zelda got captured, but Impa rescues her and insults your abilities, motivating you further. After dungeon 3 Zelda leaves to where Ghirahim can't get her, and your duty is to temper your sword so you can go get her. Link's big motivation is to save Zelda, and saving the world gets lumped on top of it. This is how it usually is in Zelda games; in Wind Waker Link wanted to rescue his sister, in TP Link wanted to rescue his girlfriend and the kids.
obvious dream sequences for things that actually happened and such.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I have a 1500 rupee cap and have never hit that limit.