Combichristoffersen
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Free shit is free shit, even if it's a fairly strange thing to include. Unless the controls really are as awful as people seem to be claiming.
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Kid Icarus Uprising will be bundled with a....stand
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electroplankton
Banned
Can we wait until the game is out before saying the price is too high? I mean, in my opinion it could have so many contents to be worth of its price.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
There's an easy way to find out. Go grab your 3DS, and see how stable you can hold it with your left hand using the slide pad and trigger while simultaneously using the touch screen. Good luck with those viewing angles.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Stand + circle pad pro = IT'S A MONSTER!
Works fine if I rest/lean the top screen against the edge of a table or my lap. Even holding it only with my hand it seems okay. I don't have a stylus-based 3D game yet to really test it with though, so I don't know for sure yet.
The whole idea behind the stand is that it is really easy to lose the 3D effect if you hold the 3DS only in your left hand while you are aiming with the stylus in your right hand. therefore, if you put the 3DS on a stand you disburden your left hand keeping the 3D effect steady.
If you use the Circle Pad Pro you don't need the stand. You hold your 3DS in both hands keeping the 3D effect steady.
A combination of both of them doesn't make any sense, GAF.
If you use the Circle Pad Pro you don't need the stand. You hold your 3DS in both hands keeping the 3D effect steady.
A combination of both of them doesn't make any sense, GAF.
For Kid Icarus this isn't true. The CPP doesn't offer dual slider control just right slider control for lefties. You still use the stylus which means you will still probably tilt the system.
If you use the Circle Pad you still have to use the stylus to aim. It's just for lefties who can't use the stylus in their right hand.
edit: beaten.
So it's like Metroid Prime Hunters....except you need to hold the top-heavy 3DS still to get clear 3D and you have to press an even smaller L button. Yeah, that might necessitate a stand.
Yes it sucks. All it means is that now lefties can properly experience the same control scheme that righties have struggled with according to demo impressions.
I imagine using the CPP you will have a much better single handed grip than with the vanilla 3DS. Of course, the CPP prevents you from using your pinky on you're stylus hand from a pseudo 2 handed grip, so that doesn't really help.
Because the controls aren't broken in the first place. The stand is a luxury, not a necessity.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Controls be damned, Sakurai didn't even bother to get the genre right. I usually enjoy his games, but I kinda have to raise an eyebrow at the whole direction of this particular project. I'm really hoping the final product turns my opinion around.
lol this thing is screaming "the game is so awfully ankward to control that we need to create this".
Considering in addition that we are talking here or a supposedly portable machine, to bundle this stand is like to fix a hole in a window by removing the whole window, so that none notice the hole...
Come on, I cannot believe that the support of the frankenstick isn't enough...
Considering in addition that we are talking here or a supposedly portable machine, to bundle this stand is like to fix a hole in a window by removing the whole window, so that none notice the hole...
Come on, I cannot believe that the support of the frankenstick isn't enough...
Kid Icarus seems lost to me. It was the first 3ds game ever shown but then it was delayed several months. The flying sections look great but the ground sections look boring and slow. Then we have the controls which again look like they were designed for the fast aiming and dodging of the flying sections but tying camera control to the stylus for ground combat feels like a last resort type thing instead of a well thought out control scheme. But the multiplayer is comprised completely of ground combat. Then there's the whole losing the 3d effect because of the control scheme and now there's a stand for that, but its useless to lefties who would need the CPP and having a stand kind of defeats the purpose of a portable device. And lastly that the game supports the CPP but only so lefties can use the right slider and not so that everyone can use dual sliders which would be ideal.
I want this game to be good, the flying sections look great, and I'm glad there's online multiplayer. But overall it looks like a bit of a mess.
I want this game to be good, the flying sections look great, and I'm glad there's online multiplayer. But overall it looks like a bit of a mess.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Stubbornly decide to manufacture another plastic peripheral to bundle with the game rather than support dual-analog controls.
After Sakamoto's stubborn refusal to use the nunchuck in Other-M and now this, seems plenty o' slapping is in order for some Nintendo devs.
After Sakamoto's stubborn refusal to use the nunchuck in Other-M and now this, seems plenty o' slapping is in order for some Nintendo devs.
Phife Dawg
Member
This project is just so odd. From taking the Kid Icarus ip to make a rail/tps-shooter game, using Sora, that strange AR stuff, extremely janky looking multi and now the stand.
3DS needs a thumb-strap. I misplaced mine, might as well try to track it down one of these days.
Err...right now on Amazon Shinrei Camera is at 4500 Yen, when its price should be 3800.
Pretty sold out there, indeed O_O
Do we have hands-on impressions of the multiplayer? I thought we only had that quick glimpse in one of the trailers.
Did the Wii Wheel cause this bizarre reaction?
You guys are acting like this is some control solution. It doesn't affect the controls. It isn't something that got included at the expense of dual analog controls. This is a plastic incline on your table.
What have you done, Sakurai?
You guys are acting like this is some control solution. It doesn't affect the controls. It isn't something that got included at the expense of dual analog controls. This is a plastic incline on your table.
What have you done, Sakurai?
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Ummm, thanks for something no one asked for ?
Wrestlemania
Banned
I don't think a game designed around the speed you can aim with stylus controls would translate very well to analogue control.
Phife Dawg
Member
I'm going by what could be seen in the trailers. It looked extremely janky, don't know what it plays like of course but I'm not keeping my hopes high.
Ugh, the 3DS is killing the PSV right now and sales are great in general, why introduce a revision now? They'll be waiting for the effect of the current stream of software to trickle out and probably launch some software alongside. Also since KI lacks dual analogue even with the frankenstick a revision with a second slider would not have an effect on the existence of the stand.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I've yet to see this "impossibly fast so no conventional button controls could deal with it" gameplay that everyone keeps using as the last line of defence on why no dual-analog for this game isnt a glaring oversight now that it actually supports the peripheral. Perhaps theres a specific section of a trailer or gameplay such people can link me to for judgement?
Its not like the 3DS has some giant screen you need to drag a tiny pin-dot reticule over with a second stick, hell youre not even touching to shoot on the same screen, you're just controlling a reticule with the stylus too on a screen thats not even the same size...
Despite my complaints I still plan on getting this and I think I've figured out how I'm going to play it.
I'm just gonna hold the 3ds in my left hand with my thumb on the slider and jam/rest the bottom right corner of the 3ds into my right palm while holding the stylus with my fingers. That's how I'm holding my 3ds right now as I post on gaf and it keeps the 3ds stable while still keeping a fast stylus speed.
I'm just gonna hold the 3ds in my left hand with my thumb on the slider and jam/rest the bottom right corner of the 3ds into my right palm while holding the stylus with my fingers. That's how I'm holding my 3ds right now as I post on gaf and it keeps the 3ds stable while still keeping a fast stylus speed.
shouamabane
Member
I have arthritis in my hands. This thing looks like a godsend. I've used third party stands for years.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
So the ccp just enables lefties to play the game in awkward mode?! I was guessing, that it would enable the option to play it with TWO analog pads... some wild ideas.
Wouldn't it be easier to just use something like...this?
The 3DS would be still portable as well.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Wouldn't it be easier to just use something like...this?
The 3DS would be still portable as well.
with your thumb covering up a bunch of the screen? Seems too iPhone-ish.
fabricated backlash
Member
They are. In fact the controls are absolutely intollerable.
If this game would actually allow for real pinpoint accuracy stylus aiming instead of having a deadzone that you have to drag your stylus out of to get the camera turning I would agree.
The game is a desaster that plays like a trainwreck (at least on foot)
Wouldn't it be easier to just use something like...this?
The 3DS would be still portable as well.
yes please. Though it would be like admitting just using your fingers on 3ds does not actually work as well as on iOS devices..
Neoriceisgood
Member
It's not the screen hinges, it's people not having enough muscle in their arms.
Opiate will eat you alive if he sees your post 0_o. "Doom" jokes are the booming bannable offense as of late.
why do you have to use a stylus? What happened to using that little thumb nub on the wrist strap like in Mario 64 DS?
Frankenstick should have have a stand built in I guess.
butter_stick
Banned
This game is going to be a disaster, isn't it?