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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
It was guard, and not it's not gone. It just takes meter to do now. Though they've added a "parry" called Just Guard, which you tap Guard right before you get hit. Pretty much like parries from 3rd Strike. Have yet to see anyone do one in a match.

I'll start doing them soon, I'm still trying to get the timings down.
 

scosher

Member
I've gotten used to the new GI input. Although I still wish it was Forward + ABK, and not back. Just feels unnatural. I also think it costs too much meter that are more often better spent on BE's and CE's. Should only cost a 1/4 imo, or alternatively, 1/2 meter if you land the GI, but 1/8 if you whiff it.
 

sleepykyo

Member
How do you do just guards? I get that it is supposed to tapping the guard for like a frame, but should I

1. tap the guard at the moment of impact ?
2. letting go of guard at the moment of impact?
 
If A = guard, then yes, that's what we're talking about.

It is still in, but it is done by pressing back and all attack buttons. They are tied to the new meter in SC, and instead of being level dependent, there is a single universal GI.

Hmm sounds weird. Well it looks like I will rent first instead of blind buy. I was on the verge of buying the game a few hours ago. Guess I should test drive it first. Unless it has a bullshit online pass.....does it?
 

Roto13

Member
I've gotten used to the new GI input. Although I still wish it was Forward + ABK, and not back. Just feels unnatural. I also think it costs too much meter that are more often better spent on BE's and CE's. Should only cost a 1/4 imo, or alternatively, 1/2 meter if you land the GI, but 1/8 if you whiff it.

I'd probably actually use them if it was only a quarter. Half a meter to land is still too much. I land them consistently when I do use them. :p (The window seems to be bigger.)
Hmm sounds weird. Well it looks like I will rent first instead of blind buy. I was on the verge of buying the game a few hours ago. Guess I should test drive it first. Unless it has a bullshit online pass.....does it?

No, but one of the characters is exclusive DLC for Best Buy. :p
 

Skilletor

Member
I've gotten used to the new GI input. Although I still wish it was Forward + ABK, and not back. Just feels unnatural. I also think it costs too much meter that are more often better spent on BE's and CE's. Should only cost a 1/4 imo, or alternatively, 1/2 meter if you land the GI, but 1/8 if you whiff it.

I disagree. For that much meter, not much would change from a gameplay perspective in the implementation of GIs, especially since they defend against all levels in this game.


How do you do just guards? I get that it is supposed to tapping the guard for like a frame, but should I

1. tap the guard at the moment of impact ?
2. letting go of guard at the moment of impact?

Tap and let go of guard within 4 frames of impact, I believe.
 

kiryogi

Banned
No I want to kill you for free with lizard man some more shits hilarious xD DAT FIRE Also I burst out laughing that one game I won and lizard man spazed out with that long ass roar on the win screen that went on for like freaking 6 seconds. Dat orgasm
Is that why you take so long to get back into lobby? Lol. . . Guess ill keep trucking on Omega. The hopped into training for a little again afterwards to figure out her remainders. Now I just need to work on her timings
 

Ferrio

Banned
Is that why you take so long to get back into lobby? Lol. . . Guess ill keep trucking on Omega. The hopped into training for a little again afterwards to figure out her remainders. Now I just need to work on her timings


What time are you getting on to play man? I went to bed almost at midnight alaskan time and you still weren't on dammit
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
I've gotten used to the new GI input. Although I still wish it was Forward + ABK, and not back. Just feels unnatural. I also think it costs too much meter that are more often better spent on BE's and CE's. Should only cost a 1/4 imo, or alternatively, 1/2 meter if you land the GI, but 1/8 if you whiff it.


Using 4 has for GI isn't unnatural considering how you can switch places in a match switching the inputs you use. I'm glad they changed GI like this it will make playing certain people I know in the tourney scene much different especially the kind that prefer the fast hitting female characters much different.

I stay with medium or long range characters so we don't use GI that often not enough for how the bar hits to stop doing it. Anyone doing a bunch of GI's blantantly in the long run is gonna get mistimed and eat a nasty counter setup. Wish I could see how this change plays out with tourney types but I for one welcome it.
 

kiryogi

Banned
What time are you getting on to play man? I went to bed almost at midnight alaskan time and you still weren't on dammit
Probably your bed time lol. I'm typically home @ midnight pst and either o hop on then or I mess around on the web until 1 or something. Then after that I'm on all morning
 
So the store I bought the game from is telling me that that the Dampierre DLC was only for the standard edition, and not for the CE. Oh fuck you guys -____-

At least they're giving me $10~ in store credit...
 

sleepykyo

Member
I've gotten used to the new GI input. Although I still wish it was Forward + ABK, and not back. Just feels unnatural. I also think it costs too much meter that are more often better spent on BE's and CE's. Should only cost a 1/4 imo, or alternatively, 1/2 meter if you land the GI, but 1/8 if you whiff it.

Possibly. But keep in mind, it now catches all strikes heights and is guaranteed 60-90 damage if the opponent doesn't have the meter to reGI.
 

Skilletor

Member
So the store I bought the game from is telling me that that the Dampierre DLC was only for the standard edition, and not for the CE. Oh fuck you guys -____-

At least they're giving me $10~ in store credit...

You bought it from best buy? My regular had a code in the case. That would be really stupid if the CE didn't get it.
 
Nah, different country. The main videogame retailer here in Mexico was also offering the DLC. Dunno if the few Best Buys there are here even offered it tbh.
 
Man, CaS is so much fun. Even the limitations can be fun to work around. Behold: proper beardage! :D

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Dueck

Banned
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I've seen so many people complaining on various sites about the fact this game has toned down the sexuality seen in the previous entries. All it reminded me of was South Park, where they had to bribe the 6th graders with a picture of Stan's mom's "hot tits." It's just such a juvenile thing to be so hung up on that it made me think these are the same guys who would take "the bewbs into the bushes."
 

frequency

Member
I don't think the sexuality has been toned down.

Z.W.E.I. is oozing sex appeal.
Maxim still has a delicious open shirt.
Kilik has a way sexier outfit.

On the female side:
Ivy is still Ivy.
Natsu's suit is too tight.
Leixia's shorts are too short (and see through!).
Pyrrha's likes to do high kicks in a skirt.
Viola and Tira are in ridiculously slutty-Halloween-esque costumes.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
I don't think the sexuality has been toned down.

Z.W.E.I. is oozing sex appeal.
Maxim still has a delicious open shirt.
Kilik has a way sexier outfit.

On the female side:
Ivy is still Ivy.
Natsu's suit is too tight.
Leixia's shorts are too short (and see through!).
Pyrrha's likes to do high kicks in a skirt.
Viola and Tira are in ridiculously slutty-Halloween-esque costumes.

...And you can make all the nubile characters you want in the character creation mode. :p
 

Esura

Banned
I don't think the sexuality has been toned down.

Z.W.E.I. is oozing sex appeal.
Maxim still has a delicious open shirt.
Kilik has a way sexier outfit.

On the female side:
Ivy is still Ivy.
Natsu's suit is too tight.
Leixia's shorts are too short (and see through!).
Pyrrha's likes to do high kicks in a skirt.
Viola and Tira are in ridiculously slutty-Halloween-esque costumes.

Did you see Ivy, Sophitia, and Seong Mina in SCIV? Or Taki? Ivy wore a string. Sophitia had a gown that was quite see through. Seong Mina got all that cleavage and legs showing. And Taki had nipples sticking out hard like shes been hanging out in a freezer.

While I don't actually care too much, its obviously toned down.
 

frequency

Member
Did you see Ivy, Sophitia, and Seong Mina in SCIV? Or Taki?

While I don't actually care too much, its obviously toned down.

Yes. I did. I played a ton of SC4 and loved it even if other SC fans didn't.
Besides Sophitia's silly see-through robe thing, I don't feel SC5 characters are being out-classed in the sexuality department.
 

Esura

Banned
Yes. I did. I played a ton of SC4 and loved it even if other SC fans didn't.
Besides Sophitia's silly see-through robe thing, I don't feel SC5 characters are being out-classed in the sexuality department.

I do. But I still like the new characters though, particularly Pyrrha and Natsu. They do their predecessors proud gameplay wise and they have their own appeal.
 

Roto13

Member
I don't think the sexuality has been toned down.

Z.W.E.I. is oozing sex appeal.
Maxim still has a delicious open shirt.
Kilik has a way sexier outfit.

On the female side:
Ivy is still Ivy.
Natsu's suit is too tight.
Leixia's shorts are too short (and see through!).
Pyrrha's likes to do high kicks in a skirt.
Viola and Tira are in ridiculously slutty-Halloween-esque costumes.

Zwei is not "oozing sex appeal." Some of the male characters have open shirts but that's nothing compared to the female characters in IV. They'd basically have to be in speedos to be on the same level.

Ivy's still Ivy but she's wearing more clothes in V, Natsu's suit is tight but compare her to Taki. She had watermelons with nipples. Leixia's clothes aren't that skimpy. They're a little short, but they're not tight. Pyrrha's skirt is over tights. Compare her to her mother, who was keeping her shirt on with two-sided nipple tape. Tira shows her midriff. That's not particularly slutty. And Viola's showing her... upper thighs, I guess?

Compare basically any of the female characters in this (except maybe Ivy) to just about any of the female characters in IV and it's pretty damn clear they're less sexualized.
 

Dueck

Banned
In a twist of irony, I could either trade 5 games and pay $30 at Best Buy to get the standard version with Dampierre, or trade in 3 games and pay $20 to get the Limited Edition from EB Games... I went the latter route, but it's KILLING me not having Dampierre. My game just feels incomplete.

Anyone have any ideas when to expect him in the store? I've been trying to remember how long it took for SCIV's Yoda/Vader to end up on their opposing console, but I can't.
 

frequency

Member
Zwei is not "oozing sex appeal." Some of the male characters have open shirts but that's nothing compared to the female characters in IV. They'd basically have to be in speedos to be on the same level.

Ivy's still Ivy but she's wearing more clothes in V, Natsu's suit is tight but compare her to Taki. She had watermelons with nipples. Leixia's clothes aren't that skimpy. They're a little short, but they're not tight. Pyrrha's skirt is over tights. Compare her to her mother, who was keeping her shirt on with two-sided nipple tape. Tira shows her midriff. That's not particularly slutty. And Viola's showing her... upper thighs, I guess?

Compare basically any of the female characters in this (except maybe Ivy) to just about any of the female characters in IV and it's pretty damn clear they're less sexualized.

Well I disagree.
The female characters in this game are as sexual to me as the ones in 4.
I suppose the cast is generally younger. So if sexual just means large breasts to you, then I can see that side of the argument.
You should take another look at Tira and Viola though.

And you be quiet about Z.W.E.I. He's as sexy as they come. You jerk.

EDIT: Oh who am I kidding. 90% of sexuality to guys is just breast size. I concede.
 

Esura

Banned
Well I disagree.
The female characters in this game are as sexual to me as the ones in 4.
I suppose the cast is generally younger. So if sexual just means large breasts to you, then I can see that side of the argument.

And you be quiet about Z.W.E.I. He's as sexy as they come. You jerk.

In regards to Ivy and Sophitia, they showed a lot of skin on top of having huge breasts. Ivy literally only had like some leather tape like stuff wrapped around her in IV. Taki had a camel toe and nipples poking through her skin tight suit. Seong Mina show all them legs and breasts.
 

Roto13

Member
Well I disagree.
The female characters in this game are as sexual to me as the ones in 4.
I suppose the cast is generally younger. So if sexual just means large breasts to you, then I can see that side of the argument.

And you be quiet about Z.W.E.I. He's as sexy as they come. You jerk.

Sexualized doesn't just mean large breasts, but a ninja in spandex isn't really that sexual. A ninja with massive torpedo tits with giant pointy nipples is pretty damn sexual, though. The fact that Taki's boobs just got bigger and bigger and bigger in each game doesn't help her case. EDIT: Yeah, I forgot about the camel toe. That too. :p

You might find Zwei sexy but he's not that sexualized. :p There's a difference.
 

frequency

Member
Sexualized doesn't just mean large breasts, but a ninja in spandex isn't really that sexual. A ninja with massive torpedo tits with giant pointy nipples is pretty damn sexual, though. The fact that Taki's boobs just got bigger and bigger and bigger in each game doesn't help her case.

You might find Zwei sexy but he's not that sexualized. :p There's a difference.

Boobs.

Anyway.
Z.W.E.I. is totally sexualized. I don't know how much more you can do to sexualize a man. I guess you could make his vest shorter for more tight-pants-butt action.

If he's not considered sexualized, what is?

And no, Cho Aniki is not the answer. Someone else on these forums told me Cho Aniki is what sexualizing a man is supposed to be. I'm pretty sure sexualization is meant to be appealing to the opposite sex (or same sex in same cases I guess).
 

Roto13

Member
Boobs.

Anyway.
Z.W.E.I. is totally sexualized. I don't know how much more you can do to sexualize a man. I guess you could make his vest shorter for more tight-pants-butt action.

If he's not considered sexualized, what is?

Much more skin than that, low cut pants, more bulging. There aren't many hypersexualized male characters to use as an example. Most comics and games are made for men. The big rippling muscle men like Marcus Phoenix or Kratos aren't designed to be sexy, they're designed to play into the male power fantasy. Ivy is designed for straight men. Zwei is, too.
 

Pimpbaa

Member
In regards to Ivy and Sophitia, they showed a lot of skin on top of having huge breasts. Ivy literally only had like some leather tape like stuff wrapped around her in IV. Taki had a camel toe and nipples poking through her skin tight suit. Seong Mina show all them legs and breasts.

This is why I will never get rid of SCIV.
 

frequency

Member
Much more skin than that, low cut pants, more bulging. There aren't many hypersexualized male characters to use as an example. Most comics and games are made for men. The big rippling muscle men like Marcus Phoenix or Kratos aren't designed to be sexy, they're designed to play into the male power fantasy. Ivy is designed for straight men. Zwei is, too.

That's about as much skin as you can get without being in shorts. You don't have to be in shorts to be sexualized.

Yeah Marcus and Kratos aren't meant to be sexy. But Z.W.E.I. isn't like them. The only thing similar between those characters are... um... muscles?

So forget about comics and games. What's a sexualized man?
If there's a character with his sexy features accentuated, isn't that sexualized?
Go look at the characters in any otome game. He fits perfectly into one of the otome roles. Speaking of which, so does Patroklos. I bet you'd totally find a ton of yaoi if this game is popular enough.

I had this discussion in a different thread a while back too, so maybe I'm just dumb (likely).
But Z.W.E.I. is designed to be more than just an avatar to fulfill some teen boys' power fantasies if you ask me.
 
Yeah, I think I'm going to shelve this game after I'm done with the single player.

No one to play with online and slide inputs not working online only frustrates me. It was good while it lasted.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Yeah, I think I'm going to shelve this game after I'm done with the single player.

No one to play with online and slide inputs not working online only frustrates me. It was good while it lasted.

o_O Slide inputs work just fine online... where are you playing from?
 

kiryogi

Banned
Yeah, I think I'm going to shelve this game after I'm done with the single player.

No one to play with online and slide inputs not working online only frustrates me. It was good while it lasted.
No one to play with online? Didn't you ask for a psn invite?

Also I've had no issues with slide inputs either. . . Don't give up!
 

sleepykyo

Member
Didn't the conversation about sexuality happen before the game released?

Let's jump to conclusions about the tiers.

I'm going for Hilde and Zwei at the top later on. Even with larger rings, her playstyle did a lot of guard damage and there really isn't a way to replenish large chunks of guard meter. Zwei (and possibly Viola) will eventually have some crazy lockdown/unblockable setups.
 

Pimpbaa

Member
I don't think the sexuality has been toned down.

Z.W.E.I. is oozing sex appeal.
Maxim still has a delicious open shirt.
Kilik has a way sexier outfit.

On the female side:
Ivy is still Ivy.
Natsu's suit is too tight.
Leixia's shorts are too short (and see through!).
Pyrrha's likes to do high kicks in a skirt.
Viola and Tira are in ridiculously slutty-Halloween-esque costumes.

The way you worded that makes it sound like it's ok to have sexy men, but not ok to have sexy women.
 
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