Jex
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Well, you know, one that covers more pretty much the entire body from head to toe has to be fairly acceptable, right?
Unless its the concept that's more problematic for you?
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Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This
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Well, you know, one that covers more pretty much the entire body from head to toe has to be fairly acceptable, right?
Unless its the concept that's more problematic for you?
I don't think SHAFT fans are as nuanced as that, or else we wouldn't be SHAFT fans.
We like SHAFT because they brought a few things we love (and love to hate) into our lives, and for that we are eternally thankful. We also hope they'll throw us the odd bone that just blows away all our expectations. It is very much a blind and desperate love. Like a battered wife.
Neko Mimi Mode
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You're looking for The Mars Daybreak (Kenran Butou Sai). Pretty similar, only a more up-beat atmosphere the whole way through.
Not everyone is interested to watch almost everything in each season.
Would be an option but I watched it before I started E7, but thanks anyway
You know, now that I think about it, pretty much all of the awful disturbing fanservice I've seen lately has been from noitaminA. Forced macaroon feeding, love carving, cripple fetishes, little boys in panda outfits that turn into demon women, girls in elaborate dresses sitting on toilets, your dead sister/future daughter turning into a digimon that wants to kiss you, girls with dumb hair named after an alternate form of intercourse, boys dressing up as dead little girls, classy anime that try to trick into reading creepy manga fan fiction, CG characters in closeup. I'm starting to feel sick.
Jex
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I second this, er, strategic fixing of posts to make a point about great anime.
Going out of your way to be classy in scenes that would otherwise be blatantly lascivious is a form of titillation.
Hellsing321
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Thats sounds like all anime fans.
Jex
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That just seems cruel.
Shaft just can't win, can they?
It does? I really liked it... (Apart from the ending)
From what I've hard this seems like a good option, I shall start soon and post impressions. If I don't like it I know who to blame lol
Jex
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You're in luck, because it's sequel has recently been announced!
Well not all of them, certainly. But most of them don't, won't, or can't really internalize the process that turns an idea, or an existing property, into the anime we see, the gunpla kits we buy, the figurines in our display cases and the body pillows we go to sleep with.
Don't do this to them, man.
Star Driver!
Hellsing321
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Wait which ending? The TV ending or End of Eva?
Don't give people false hope like that. It's obviously a sequel to IS.
Reading that blog post makes me reconsider how well I can talk about anything related to anime.
When I get into something, I want to really understand it and know all about it. That's what I've tried to do with video games, and I like to think I can adequately describe why I like or don't like a game, or what parts are good or bad. And I'd like to be able to do the same with anime, and I want to like good things and dislike bad things. I want to be a monocle and sit on my throne of classy good taste and look down on all these inferior popular shows. But then I read something like that and realize how easily "this is stuff I like" turns into "this is something objectively good".
I don't know whether Madoka is objectively good (I'm kinda in the middle on it), but his argument for the show's quality comes down to it being about themes he likes, and his argument for preferring Steins;Gate comes down to how he doesn't like Sayaka, even though her selfishness is central to the themes of love he so adores. He likes Madoka because some people are really selfless, and he likes Steins;Gate because everyone's a better person there than in Madoka.
It seems silly to me (mostly because of how his telegraphed subjective preferences are mixed with objective statements), but then I think about why I really liked Steins;Gate more than other shows last season. I feel safe saying that the writing is pretty strong, and the voice cast is great, but what pushed it over the top for me and made me care so much were two main elements.
- I was really happy to see a non-comedy show set in the modern day focused around the otaku subculture. For a tense mystery/adventure, the setting resembled a reality I could actually experience more closely than other shows I had seen.
- Makise Kurisu fits a character archetype that I really really like. Kinda like FMP's Chidori, it's the right mix of "tsun" and "dere" which bypasses all my intellectual defenses.
It'd be easy to just let go and like the things I like, but I also don't want to be the kind of guy who writes that blog.
Jex
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Well, by and large, practically no-one watches the majority of shows airing each season. I'm down to lowest number ever this season (three) because I've been pretty busy with other things.
Both endings are bad, but the TV ending is slightly better from a plot standpoint, EoE wins as far as animation goes.
What, AO right? And I'm guessing it's based upon the manga? I read the first chapter the other day, I have hope it will improve... (Not much, but hope none the less!)
TV Ending. I'm planning to watch End of Eva in a few days so hopefully that'll be better.
I'll have to respectfully disagree. Besides the music direction, the music's not really memorable outside of the show.
Maid cafes flourish because patrons have so intensely fetishized that particular type of clothing due to its representation of female servitude. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the inherent level of classiness in the costume can't make up for the reasons why it's being worn! If there were cheongsam cafes or pantsuit cafes or any kind of cafe dedicated to clothing that's objectively modest but still widely sexualized, I'd probably feel just the same.
I hope the next thread has an easy to search for title like this one.
All I had to do was Ctrl + F "Round" and I found it every time.
All I had to do was Ctrl + F "Round" and I found it every time.
Sequel.
Jex
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But, but, it might be good. Right? Tell me it will be okay. Please.
Infinite Justice
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wait?
SHAFT bashing and no pizzaroll? Something is very wrong here
SHAFT bashing and no pizzaroll? Something is very wrong here
firehawk12
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Well, everything is a form of titillation at that point!
hosannainexcelsis
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Don't you use subscriptions?
Jex
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Only in that it's not really that similar to Eureka 7. They're fairly different works in a large number of areas.
Perhaps one of the Macross shows would make more sense, but those are wildly inconsistent. I enjoy the original Macross myself, but you have to take it as a product of its time.
I hate to break this to you, but it's going to suck.
I'd agree with you if you weren't talking about SHAFT. The thing which makes SHAFT distinctive is that they've very, very deliberately cultivated a "house-style" - it was part of Shinbous remit when he was brought in to head up the studio, and is so pervasive that people who've since left SHAFT have continued to make SHAFT-looking shows even afterwards. There's a very definite consistency to their post-Moon Phase productions that other studios simply can't boast.
Not every show can be as classy and non-pandering as Ano Hana.
Jex
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Okay, I suppose that's fair, but it's really pretty tame in Soredemo - which is the work that was originally being discussed. It's not very fetishised in that show, and the girls aren't very subservient, so I don't find it problematic.
RurouniZel
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Nise 6
See she is an adult inside, totally not a loli. "No" doesn't mean "no" so Araragi is in the clear with this one. Plus since Shinobu is hundreds of years old, she isn't a loli either. Araragi isn't a true pedo after all.
A legit good episode this week. As I originally thought, Shinobu is a great addition to the cast when she is clothed. She has a neat dynamic with Araragi, their interaction this week was fun. I particularly enjoyed the amount of quality head tilts this week, they really shined in the Senjougahara scenes.
A Detective Conan parody? I don't want to watch this, but son of a bitch! >_<
I guess it's time to restart clean again... I don't know how this happened. Also the phone app is still broken.
I see you bought a rope like the rest of us too.
No, I say this with the utmost respect for their craft.
It wouldn't be solved, but the emphasized fanservice is one of the reasons why there are problems with the pacing.
Jex
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I'd say that he'll regret this change to eviscerate SHAFT, but he'll do that whenever he wants to anyway.
That's alright, then. Just so long as you admit the Mastery of SHAFT.
Both are less than 30 eps, so they won't be too time consuming, so I'll watch a few and see how it goes I guess.
Jex
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It's the only way to browse.
Nah man. They still make good robot shows. You'll see.
Hellsing321
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Yeah a consistency of being crap! (Someone has to fill in for Pizzaroll.)
I never claimed this wasn't the case. If you only like T&A, anime fanservice gets very repetitive very quickly!
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