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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]
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Gully State
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What does -swap mean? Like swap teammates with the opposing side?
-swap is swapping heroes, useful in modes like SD.
you can swap no mater what
what usually happened in -RD where they pick the most needed heroes first then swap it around in with the team depending who wanted to play who
swap worked in all modes.
dorkimoe
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They're fake you guys move along
So what? Its not like we can play the game right now
I hope this inspires Valve to actually make something like this.
MustacheBandit_
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The action figures are great! Sad to hear they are fake. Give me at least a Pudge plush doll and I will be stoked.
throwawayname
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Mr. Heisenberg, I like your avatar.
No. I've had enough of noob sa "scouting"
lolololol
CreativeSK
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i agree SA is definitely not a hero for someone new
Just play Lich for your first 30 games. Learn to ward so you while you feed, you aren't totally useless.
Then play Tidehunter and keep warding and let your team know when your ult is up and have someone tell you went to use it.
Don't play any heroes from Agility or any characters from Int who aren't Lich for your first 50 games. Always buy the Courier or buy wards. And buy (and place) Observer Wards all game, every game.
Then play Tidehunter and keep warding and let your team know when your ult is up and have someone tell you went to use it.
Don't play any heroes from Agility or any characters from Int who aren't Lich for your first 50 games. Always buy the Courier or buy wards. And buy (and place) Observer Wards all game, every game.
Nor is AM or any hard carry.
Complex Shadow
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storm surge isn't to bad as long as you have mana management. and arn't up against pudge
Dreams-Visions
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I don't agree with this. I'm very new and I got the hang of things playing with Zeus and Storm. YouTube tutorials and item build guides are really all anyone needs...and they can pick the character they're interested in and go from there. Then you just practice.
Having someone play Lich for 30 games (!) ensures they don't know anything about some of the most basic concepts of the game (like farming) and ensures for the first 15 game hours, they have very little fun.
It's not necessary. You can learn what you need to know with the characters you want to learn to play.
Complex Shadow
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riki is a great noob hero. you can easily get a feel for the map without worry of getting noticed. but the enemy team will find you eventually so you have to stay on your guard.
spermatic cord
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Is there going to be a patch when the servers come back on?
Most likely tomorrow evening.
If a newbie wants to try out a carry-ish hero, I highly recommend trying out Viper. Ultimately play whoever appeals to you, but if things aren't working out, revert back to the easier heroes like Lich, Venomancer, Tide, and Viper. And play easy bot games to get a grasp on the basic fundamentals of the game.
Complex Shadow
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Personally I think every new person should start out playing CHEN, easy to use Ultimate, easy slow, easy nuke, and he can send his friends back to base to heal, he's the easiest hero I think.
Lich is too hard, requires good timing on his ultimate, using sacrifice effectively can be tricky, he has high mana costs, and his nuke sometimes requires you to go in too close.
All you new guys, just play CHEN, that and he's the only black hero, which automatically makes him awesome.
Expectations for a player on Storm or Zeus are way higher than Lich or Tidehunter. Those expectations are lessened or adjusted when that player slings Wards around too.
I'd way rather have a new player on a simple character, slinging Wards, that's how I started. Even if you suck (and new players all will), you're still adding value while you feed, rather than just feeding.
If you're (indefinite case, not Dreams-Visions) just going to go in solo, I guess, pick whoever and get yelled at, quit and come here and complain about the community. But if you're starting out and want to be valuable to your team from the beginning, pick an item agnostic support, and learn to Ward.
Schweinehund
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Tide/Lich are about as easy as easy gets.
Beyond that, I think reading guides will help you most when you start playing the game.
Sven is another good hero...
Beyond that, I think reading guides will help you most when you start playing the game.
Sven is another good hero...
dragon knight is pissed at you now
Dreams-Visions
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Nah. Starting with Chen is bad idea, IMO. A beginner would find themselves overwhelmed with trying to keep up with and manage all the little creeps you need to make him effective. So focused on that, the other aspects of the game get missed.
A similar character like Venom makes more sense, as you don't have to get lost looking for creeps, while gaining similar effects and ease.
I thought DK might be a brotha...but I'm still not sure.
fair enough. I suppose we'll all just end up recommending however we started. I started by picking who I wanted to learn and going from there with tutorials (about the game in general) and guides for my character specifically. Worked for me, and I didn't have to spend days with a character I had no interest in.
ymmv, however.
Until you swap the wrong person, and everyone hates you.
That's just a stereotype: not all dragons are black people.
CreativeSK
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I can only imagine the hilarity ensuing from this.
Yeah, ulti is a bit tricky but you can just avoid using it when not sure what you are doing. I'm usually very conservative with it and no one has complained.
DK is black? Wtf he's white isn't he?
No see you don't get the creeps, you just lane him! Easiest hero.
Then you will never play VS ever again.
Hey Lich why did you waste ulti!? You'll fuck up with any hero. Venge is a fine starter hero.
Dreams-Visions
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he's pretty dark. couple that with the deep, rich voice. I always thought he was, but didn't know if anyone else saw what I was seeing.DK is black? Wtf he's white isn't he?
and watch everyone yell at you.
A bad Lich ulti isn't anywhere near as bad as swapping an imitator into your team, or swapping the carry so you can escape.
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