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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]

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Guesong

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I dunno..I guess roughly speaking for each class....

Always depend on the situation, so you cannot have a set numerical GPM for each.

But as a rule of thumb :

Support : Lowest GPM on the team
Carry : Highest GPM on the team. And by high it means high, not a +20 difference from support.

All the "in-between" roles (like Ganker, Initiator* and such) will greatly vary depending on how your hero is built to approach the game at hand, and what you need most.

*except Tide, that is built like a Support despite being the best initiator in the game with a Blink Dagger.
 
I really don't think ricing is a racist term, especially when applied to a game like this.

Regardless of whether or not it is "racist", it is very obviously derived from a racial perspective of farming. If it weren't for the Chinese teams typically being of the farming persuasion - or, to be more accurate, if it was another race or region that was known for their tendency to be of the farming persuasion - "ricing" never would have become a thing. You can't deny this.

However, I'm only speaking objectively. If I were to speak subjectively, I would say, "I don't give a shit. Words is words. Get over it, nerds."
 

TommyT

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People are far too sensitive, it's a harmless term.

No one has said anything to the contrary with regards to how it's being used here. Or rather how it was asked to be defined.

Regardless of whether or not it is "racist", it is very obviously derived from a racial perspective of farming. If it weren't for the Chinese teams typically being of the farming persuasion, "ricing" never would have become a thing. You can't deny this.

However, I'm only speaking objectively. If I were to speak subjectively, I would say, "I don't give a shit."

This guy gets it... kinda. I'd say it goes back further than DotA*. However, that's just splitting hairs as your point is still the same.

*assuming how I first heard it used in WoW came before how it was/is being used in DotA.
 
Regardless of whether or not it is "racist", it is very obviously derived from a racial perspective of farming. If it weren't for the Chinese teams typically being of the farming persuasion - or, to be more accurate, if it was another race or region that was known for their tendency to be of the farming persuasion - "ricing" never would have become a thing. You can't deny this.

However, I'm only speaking objectively. If I were to speak subjectively, I would say, "I don't give a shit. Words is words. Get over it, nerds."

+1

but I still want to know more about the origins of "cotton picking". Being internets, I have my strong suspicions...but I'd be happy to be wrong.
 
*assuming how I first heard it used in WoW came before how it was/is being used in DotA.

Actually that's a good point. I was working under the assumption that DotA was the origin of the term as it is used here. I do not know if it was used that way in WoW first. It wouldn't surprise me.

Either way, I feel pretty safe in saying that the reasons for the word's existence are as I stated.
 

TommyT

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Actually that's a good point. I was working under the assumption that DotA was the origin of the term as it is used here. I do not know if it was used that way in WoW first. It wouldn't surprise me.

Either way, I feel pretty safe in saying that the reasons for the word's existence are as I stated.

I honestly don't know. My background of it came from the early days of WoW gold farming. As it was always done by "Chinese farmers". "Farming" was later reserved for doing something like gathering materials and the gold "farming" was changed to "ricing".

It's six of one, half a dozen of the other - either way.
 

Deadstar

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Is there an update coming later today? I just checked the blog and saw a post from yesterday which was strange because I thought the blog posts come out on Thursday. Lycan looks incredible.
 

Hylian7

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Is there an update coming later today? I just checked the blog and saw a post from yesterday which was strange because I thought the blog posts come out on Thursday. Lycan looks incredible.

Yesterday's post was basically to say "We're sorry for the downtime and delays, enjoy some art, update coming Thursday."
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Player 1 randoms, Riki, ok, not to bad
Player 2 picks QoP, ok.
I pick Tide Hunter, giving us some tankyness
Player 4 picks Sven. Uh, ok, not to bad
Player 5 randoms Brood. Shit.

I'll go top. Brood is coming too, well ok. Huskar Shadow Shamon Top, damn thats not good, I'm just going to stay back and stay in XP range. Brood Suicides, yells at me for not also suiciding. Does it a second time, yells again, goes mid. Both jump on me defending top, I am able to just walk away with 50HP thanks to my passive. QoP leaves, so I simply make it my goal to end the game 0/0/0. Then Huskar jumps me, I ult, and he dies to a tower. Later, he fountain dives. So I end up 1/0/1. Then we lost. The end, I have other games to play.
 

Artanisix

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Those picks could work Kirby... Wouldn't be great but could work...

Brood solo long lane
QoP solo mid lane
Riki solo short lane
Sven+Tide roam support
 

Exuro

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So, when/if this update comes out, will it just be the test client with the new updates, then next week whatever works will be applied to the regular client?
 

Neki

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T-minus 7 minutes for big updates

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Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Incoming update. Just saw it pop up on Dendi's stream. Games coming down for 5-10 minutes.
 
yep me too:
Console said:
We are taking the Europe server region offline in 5 minutes to prep for our update.
Other regions will not be effected at this time. Games on European servers will be interrupted.
5 min = now.
 

Mechazawa

Member
Think of it this way guys, we either get a message telling us there's an update or we get a message telling us that they need another week.

So far, we still have a 50/50 chance!
 

Deadstar

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Think of it this way guys, we either get a message telling us there's an update or we get a message telling us that they need another week.

So far, we still have a 50/50 chance!

What? I was in game and there was a message that the european servers were going offline in preparation of the update. It's only a matter of time. Valve time ;(
 
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