Ya this game has tons of things they need to address. It sucks that the community is going to be a lot smaller than it could have been.
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Twisted Metal |OT| Don't Eat. Don't Sleep. Play
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Ya this game has tons of things they need to address. It sucks that the community is going to be a lot smaller than it could have been.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
Does anyone know which part of Ice Cream Truck Sweet Tooth go to which part of Robot Sweet Tooth? I'd want to make a design based around the mech.
Juggernauts turrets suck.
His missle turret is a bigger swarmer missle pickup, but worse. You know when you overcharge it it turns purple then you shoot blood missles? Jugs missile turret has to be charged or else it fires a puny 5 dmg missle. But the problem is even when you charge it it's not all that effective. You can overcharge it and the missles will turn red, but the problem is you have a VERY small window to overcharge them into blood missiles where they're actually worth something. It's almost like it's built ONLY for taking down Talons.
Jugs other turret is Talons special, so it's pretty powerful but the thing is so sensitive!!!! You can barely aim because you just go all over the place, and even then it's on the roof of the drivers seat, so you can't see past the trailer and you can't shoot 360 degrees.
His mines suck, and it highlights a game flaw of sudeo-friendly fire. Your ricochet's can throw your own team mates into the air, well same thing with jugs mines, EVERYONE has to avoid them. Only difference is the enemies will take damage, but friendlys will still fly into the air if they run into a mine. His only redeemable thing seems to be his ram, but sooner or later everyone will know to stay away from him and shoot from afar.
His missle turret is a bigger swarmer missle pickup, but worse. You know when you overcharge it it turns purple then you shoot blood missles? Jugs missile turret has to be charged or else it fires a puny 5 dmg missle. But the problem is even when you charge it it's not all that effective. You can overcharge it and the missles will turn red, but the problem is you have a VERY small window to overcharge them into blood missiles where they're actually worth something. It's almost like it's built ONLY for taking down Talons.
Jugs other turret is Talons special, so it's pretty powerful but the thing is so sensitive!!!! You can barely aim because you just go all over the place, and even then it's on the roof of the drivers seat, so you can't see past the trailer and you can't shoot 360 degrees.
His mines suck, and it highlights a game flaw of sudeo-friendly fire. Your ricochet's can throw your own team mates into the air, well same thing with jugs mines, EVERYONE has to avoid them. Only difference is the enemies will take damage, but friendlys will still fly into the air if they run into a mine. His only redeemable thing seems to be his ram, but sooner or later everyone will know to stay away from him and shoot from afar.
Liberty4all
Banned
I would like to see a kill the jugg team mode. Like hunted but each team has a juggernaught and the team with the most jugg kills wins.
Helscream
Banned
So since I just had my 3rd crash in 3 hours I guess I'll comment about Juggernaut and teamwork in general.
First Off the Clan system is really disjointed. You are always separated from your teammates. And it does not seem like you can change teams at all in ranked games. So how could you really have a competitive game with someone if you cannot even get on the same team ever? Anyone who wants to have a clan battle is shit outta luck I guess.
After all the hard work I have put into unlocking Juggernaut I can even manage to get two of my clan mates on the same team as I. If they do it is by sheer luck/chance. And If Juggernaut is as difficult as BHK3 has stated then it really seems like Juggernaut is just a big distraction. On top of difficult maneuverability it is difficult to stay honed onto someone so the people in the Turret can get a good shot off.
Overall I am really pist with not being able to group up with clan mates. Because honestly there is no reason to be in a clan if you just get separated and cannot team up.
BurningNad
Member
These are very true words. JYD and Death Warrant are my go to vehicles depending on what I need.
Just remember there's
"no sex in the champagne room!"
Finally got on last night and played my first retail MP game: death match on Diablo Pass. Maybe choosing Kamikaze wasn't the right choice but I finished the match with about 25 points. Probably took about a million damage from falls.
Seems like her EMP shockwave takes forever to charge.
ElRenoRaven
Member
David mentioned that you have to unlock all of tier 1 in everything first. It isn't supposed to be like that so odds are they'll fix it eventually.
Jaffe was wrong. I lost 6 unlock points because I waiting till I had enough to buy everything in one gulp. Suddenly one rank up later, I lose all those points, and the next unlock point I earned was a tier 2 point. I'm missing 2 vehicles, the sidearms and a skin pack from tier 1 and I fucking hate it since I actually want to use them. I tweeted Jaffe but to no avail.
It's lvl15 I believe. Doesn't take too long to get there.
Even if you unlock them they aren't safe. I lost one of my skin packs even though I used an unlock point on it. I'll be really fucked off if they take away my Darkside.
I was in a match or two with you yesterday... i think the host afkd eventually.
Tokubetsu
Member
Just remember there's"no sex in the champagne room!"
Finally got on last night and played my first retail MP game: death match on Diablo Pass. Maybe choosing Kamikaze wasn't the right choice but I finished the match with about 25 points. Probably took about a million damage from falls.
Map like Diablo Pass you have to watch your top speed and not over extend yourself.
Helscream
Banned
Well I hit rank 28 about 2 hours ago. I unlocked Juggernaut and wanted to get some Gafers to help me try it out. Well the game crashed again and all my profile statics are gone. Apparently my stats are still on the leaderboards though. And now I am rank 1. So I just went from Rank 28 and now I am rank 1. So this means I have to rank up ALL OVER again to unlock absorption shield and +5 Killstreak. Incredible.
Or if I am lucky. Maybe the servers lost my profile information and all will be restored the next time I log back in. But for the present time I am pist off. Big time.
When that happened to me I still had all my unlocks and my rank did return eventually.
Helscream
Banned
I surely hope you are correct. Because I am reaching the end of my ability to tolerant bullshit.
Schwowsers
Member
I love last man standing mode, but so many people seem to think it's hide and seek. It really ruins the fun. It's rare I get into a game where everyone is actively hunting other players. Smaller maps would help remedy this, but apparently everyone likes to play on the largest maps possible :\
That happened to me earlier today. I just logged out and logged back in, and my stats all returned.
That happened to me earlier today. I just logged out and logged back in, and my stats all returned.
BurningNad
Member
Did he afk during the match? I think I remember getting some free kills off him, lol.
Is there a different British spelling for the word pissed or u just pull'n out the ebonics n spell'n pissed, pist on purpose, hellscream? I'm only mentioning this cause u seem like a person that's always pist, just wondering .
Juggernaut is a wonderfully destructive distraction. Eventhough some of his abilities leave a bit to be desired, his practically unlimited ability to rear freeze can buy him a hell of a lot of time. Too often I run out of mines and rear fire abilities while still having two people left chasing me, but two rear freezes later, and im in the clear.
Juggernaut is pretty survivable even when I get 3-4 people tailing me. Only thing that can be annoying and hard to deal with, other than talons, are the people who love to ram into, hug, and shoot at the pivot point of the vehicle where the trailer meets the truck. When they do this, they look like lamprey latching unto the back of humpback whale. Those bloody parasitic pests!
One thing I love about driving the juggernaut, is that the people who "get it" come and find you. In fact I played a nuke game where every round two eager randoms would immediately search me out and enter my rear. This is unexpected considering how dense your typical gamer is, and how below the radar juggernauts apc ability is.
.Juggernaut is a wonderfully destructive distraction. Eventhough some of his abilities leave a bit to be desired, his practically unlimited ability to rear freeze can buy him a hell of a lot of time. Too often I run out of mines and rear fire abilities while still having two people left chasing me, but two rear freezes later, and im in the clear.
Juggernaut is pretty survivable even when I get 3-4 people tailing me. Only thing that can be annoying and hard to deal with, other than talons, are the people who love to ram into, hug, and shoot at the pivot point of the vehicle where the trailer meets the truck. When they do this, they look like lamprey latching unto the back of humpback whale. Those bloody parasitic pests!
One thing I love about driving the juggernaut, is that the people who "get it" come and find you. In fact I played a nuke game where every round two eager randoms would immediately search me out and enter my rear. This is unexpected considering how dense your typical gamer is, and how below the radar juggernauts apc ability is.
BurningNad
Member
Best post ever.
I think it's time to continue my Twisted run... now that I have Juggernaut unlocked, speak of the devil. Also, got "The most dangerous game" trophy in my first match of Hunted... I definitely thought I was going to have to boost that one. Looks like I need more confidence!
PS - I know you guys have been sending invites out and I'm sure it's just to fill out groups and not for a specific wont to play with me, but I just want to say I'm only declining them because I either don't notice them at first or I am just trying to get something done. For example I got a couple from iBukana last night but declined those cause I was busy banging my head against the wall in that god forsaken gauntlet at the end of the game. Just to clarify.
TimeEffect
Member
Is there a different British spelling for the word pissed or u just pull'n out the ebonics n spell'n pissed, pist on purpose, hellscream? I'm only mentioning this cause u seem like a person that's always pist, just wondering
Juggernaut is a wonderfully destructive distraction. Eventhough some of his abilities leave a bit to be desired, his practically unlimited ability to rear freeze can buy him a hell of a lot of time. Too often I run out of mines and rear fire abilities while still having two people left chasing me, but two rear freezes later, and im in the clear.
Juggernaut is pretty survivable even when I get 3-4 people tailing me. Only thing that can be annoying and hard to deal with, other than talons, are the people who love to ram into, hug, and shoot at the pivot point of the vehicle where the trailer meets the truck. When they do this, they look like lamprey latching unto the back of humpback whale. Those bloody parasitic pests!
One thing I love about driving the juggernaut, is that the people who "get it" come and find you. In fact I played a nuke game where every round two eager randoms would immediately search me out and enter my rear. This is unexpected considering how dense your typical gamer is, and how below the radar juggernauts apc ability is.
Is that how you got your name, 10dollas?
Juggernaut is a game changer and can easily be the distraction of a normal TDM game that results in your team losing. I wont call him unbalanced just yet, but it seems some players don't know how to deal with him and ram right into him, which results in death. On top of that, if all players are distracted trying to take out the Jugg, the other players pick off those trying to deal with the Juggernaut.
Hopefully players smarten up, I dont want to spend entire games trying to take out the Juggernaut. This is where teamwork really comes together.
Is it true that if the Juggernaut dies you cannot spawn with him again? Does that go for the whole team?
Hahaha, correct. That's the going cost of my service.
Yup, only one per team per match.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
Apparently you can't use Sweet Tooth in TLMS, such BS
TimeEffect
Member
You probably can, but the host turned him off (you can do that under advanced settings).
I have a question: Why the bloody hell are Kamikaze/Crimson Fury, Vermin/Meat Wagon, and Death Warrant/Roadkill so damn similar??
They all share the same Specials! But the stats say something different, am I doing something wrong? Everytime I do Death Warrants/Roadkills secondary it ends up being the same one as their primary special. What's the deal with that?
This bothered me so much, I don't know why there are a special used by at least two cars, and not to mention the same stats with every two vehicles.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
No, you can't. It was a ranked game were you can't mess with the settings other than mode and map. He's limited in Nuke and Team Hunted, unlimited in Team Deathmatch, and restricted all together from TLMS. Makes no sense for ESP to restrict a vehicle in a ranked mode, didn't you make them balanced?
Honestly I don't understand why anything other than Juggs is even limited on any mode other than Nuke. Everything else is kill based and they keep saying every vehicle is balanced. Anyways if I knew I couldn't use Sweet Tooth in my favorite mode I would have unlocked something else.
There are subtle differences with alt specials I think. Such as Vermin's can fly. But yeah it seems a little strange to have several redundant specials.
Seeing the Sweet Tooth mech move around reminded me of that PS2 game War of the Monsters. Looking up the company that made that game, to see what they became, I was stunned to fond out they became Eat Sleep Play. I don't know to what point this is common knowledge, but my mind was blown! Especially considering I had absolutely NO CLUE they had anything in common!
Nope. Nope nope nope do NOT do that. Do normal first, you will need the vehicles unlocked to do twisted. It is so much easier this way.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Hmm, alright. Fav vehicle for online (by far) is Darkside. I know he'll be useless in race events but is he good enough in death match?
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
On Normal? Sure. For Twisted? Nope. There's only 1 vehicle that fairs remotely well against the Twisted AI in a straight up deathmatch.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Right now there does look to be a patch coming Tuesday. That's not set in stone from the way David Talks but that's the plan. IT will hopefully fix the connection issues or at least reduce the problem. I really hope it does too. I just haven't had the heart to play online the last day or so here. I just got tired of spending several minutes to get in only to have it kick me the next round. I love the game and really do want to play it online regularly.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Seeing the Sweet Tooth mech move around reminded me of that PS2 game War of the Monsters. Looking up the company that made that game, to see what they became, I was stunned to fond out they became Eat Sleep Play. I don't know to what point this is common knowledge, but my mind was blown! Especially considering I had absolutely NO CLUE they had anything in common!
an updated war of the monsters with online play would be fucking sweet!
Fuck your favorites, twisted difficulty doesn't care. The only two vehicles you're gonna be using are Juggernaut and Talon, everything else is mince meat for the AI.
Which is?
Yeah, I wanted to like him, but I just felt myself holding you and Helscream back. I had to just get back to Axel. Gotta be the douche until I can use Shadow :/
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
Juggernaut.
You may think you're awesome at videogames which may be true, but the AI on Twisted don't play fair. Try it if you want. Not saying you can't beat the straight up deathmatch's without Juggernaut, but it will take a very long time and a perfect strategy, and sometimes that doesn't even work.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Yes it would. The original was so awesome. It really is a shame another wasn't made. Sadly it came out at a time that monster brawlers were popular. You had a couple of Godzilla fighters like it and another one or two.
His health is lower then death warrants, his special is trash, the camera is too close to him(same with road boat) I just hate road kill. Glad I got my 50 kills out of the way for him.
Same here. Let's hope for a fix on Tuesday. Btw, any tips on how to beat the last boss? And can unlock juggernaut in single player?
The Xtortionist
Member
I just hope the same lobby disconnects are addressed. Every time the second game in the same lobby finishes loading, it always boots everyone back to the menu screen. Makes it tiring as fuck to play.