IceDoesntHelp
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Why aren't we discussing the possibilities and opportunities of Nintendo at GDC? Should be the question.
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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Why aren't we discussing the possibilities and opportunities of Nintendo at GDC? Should be the question.
Wasn't Nintendo next to these companies in previous GDC?
Reggie - "We have one exciting announcement about Wii U you won´t believe... wait for GDC"
At GDC - "We are going to reveal a new Mario game at E3 for Wii U"
At E3 - "It´s Mario party 10 for Wii U"
IceDoesntHelp
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Hot or ice cold?
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Rösti
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Correct, though with a different layout. Also, Wii U had not been shown by GDC 2011, and no business partners were confirmed.
Nintendo's booth is next to Crytek's booth in the business center as well:
Full floorplans: http://www.gdconf.com/pdf/floorplans/GDC_2012_FloorPlan_02_17_2012.pdf
Dreamwriter
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You know, if Nintendo's going to change the name of the Wii-U, tomorrow's gig would be the perfect time to announce it. Much better than waiting to E3 and going "And now...the Nintendo DreamBlaster!", leaving people confused about what product they are announcing. This way people will be done discussing the new name by E3 so the real Wii-U news (launch titles, awesomeness) will be frontmost in people's minds.
-Pyromaniac-
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that is true. They have done it before, they announced Wii's name before E3 to get all the hooplah about the name over with.
Agreed.
I really think Reggie's going to drop something big tomorrow. I'm excited.
ShockingAlberto
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But that was by a week or two, not a matter of months.
IceDoesntHelp
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That sounds wrong.
I do hope Nintendo change the name though, and I'd be surprised if they didn't to be honest. If they do change it, I hope they announce it before E3, even like a week before would be fine.
Father_Brain
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GDC itself is not a press conference, or an investor briefing, for that matter. Point is, there is no Nintendo-specific briefing/event/conference scheduled that we know of that could potentially serve as a venue for Wii U announcements to be made, and Reggie isn't going to just slip something in an interview.
-Pyromaniac-
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why not. It's all business in the end. They need to keep a level attention focused on the WiiU. They could drop a line in an interview, they could send out a press release, they could lift an embargo or two on specific things. ANYTHING CAN HAPPPPPPENNNN.
Rösti;35343943 said:Correct, though with a different layout. Also, Wii U had not been shown by GDC 2011, and no business partners were confirmed.
Nintendo's booth is next to Crytek's booth in the business center as well:
Full floorplans: http://www.gdconf.com/pdf/floorplans/GDC_2012_FloorPlan_02_17_2012.pdf
Ohh I see.
Actually, I didn't see Microsoft's booth this year so I assume they skipped this year.
By the way... what happened with your Wii U trademark guy? Did he respond?
I really hope they ditch the Wii U name. I know they're after the brand recognition, but Wii U is just plain awful =/
Edit: About Microsoft, maybe I just overlooked it haha =P
Are you taking him up his bet?Hopefully you'll make good use of your time off.
I don't think there's going to be any solid new info about Wii-U at GDC. I think we're just going to have to wait till E3.
Only big thing I expect from GDC is going to be a Zelda 3DS trailer or announcement.
I'm expecting at least a follow-up to their investor's briefing about Nintendo Network and NFC.
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Rösti
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I'm still waiting for Jerald Nagae's reply, and a reply from another contact which I won't name (it's Nintendo though, but it's nothing extraordinary). Jerald got back in office just yesterday and probably have to go through a bunch of messages before dealing with my inquiry.
JonathanPower
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Now I don't understand what is the problem if the Wii U is not more powerful than the xbox360, it sure is gonna have great GFX and for sure it's gonna be a huge step from the Wii since the Wii was very outdated (DX7-like hw), and if it will have more memory than the xbox360 it means very nice high resolution textures, it seems all very logical to me and in agreement with Nintendo philosophy to rely on innovation and not on horsepower.
Believe.
I get the feeling this image will see a lot mileage as we get closer to GDC lol.
Guilty Bystander
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8-10x the graphical power of the PS360 can easily be achieved with a GTX560TI/HD6870 level GPU. This time next year a GPU with that spec will be considered low-mid range at best and should fit within a 100 watt spec. A GPU consuming less than 100 watt can be put in a very small console. Also let's not forget with vapour chamber and even newer liquid chamber cooling technology manufacturers will be able to put a 250 watt GPU in a PS360 sized console.
What in the name of the flying spaghetti monster happened in here? I leave GAF for the weekend and I miss out on 40 pages? lol
Anyone care to summarize? I've read from 185... and what's this about flaming people? Guys, c'mon, don't flame people for a dissenting opinion. Even specialguy, and luckyman et all have their place. It can't just be one huge circle jerk.
BG made a great post a page ago about how you *can* temper your expectations and still have a system more powerful than current gen. As far as "next gen engines" go, if you can scale a game like Witcher 2 and BF3 to a 360, you can scale any PS4 game to a Wii U (or even a 360 for that matter). It's whether the effort is put into it - THAT'S the key. Architecturally, you can "scale" Samaritan to an ipad.
Name's not changing, guys.
You'd better temper your expectations. You're not getting a liquid-cooled console, and certainly not one with a 250w GPU.
Also this. So much of this. And I say that as a person who does have a "graphic whore" side to them. Consoles aren't about graphics. If you care that much about visuals, build yourself a gaming PC and be done with the digitalfoundry pixel counting shit.
Anyone care to summarize? I've read from 185... and what's this about flaming people? Guys, c'mon, don't flame people for a dissenting opinion. Even specialguy, and luckyman et all have their place. It can't just be one huge circle jerk.
BG made a great post a page ago about how you *can* temper your expectations and still have a system more powerful than current gen. As far as "next gen engines" go, if you can scale a game like Witcher 2 and BF3 to a 360, you can scale any PS4 game to a Wii U (or even a 360 for that matter). It's whether the effort is put into it - THAT'S the key. Architecturally, you can "scale" Samaritan to an ipad.
Name's not changing, guys.
Guilty Bystander said:
You'd better temper your expectations. You're not getting a liquid-cooled console, and certainly not one with a 250w GPU.
Also this. So much of this. And I say that as a person who does have a "graphic whore" side to them. Consoles aren't about graphics. If you care that much about visuals, build yourself a gaming PC and be done with the digitalfoundry pixel counting shit.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
WiiArilouLalee'lay or bust.
Because Nintendo releasing an Xbox 360 in 2012 is not an acceptable advancement. Nintendo til the Wii did not cut corners and play the innovation over horsepower line. They innovated and brought the power.
Nintendo will have to go way out of its way to deliver an Xbox 360 in 2012 and if they go that far out of their way to do so then they dont deserve my money or anyone elses.
Shin Johnpv
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I am not, I'm joking with him, hence the use of the laughing smiley.
Father_Brain
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Eh, I wouldn't say I'm expecting it to happen, but I don't see why the possibility is so ridiculous.
Fourth Storm
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ClovingWestbrook
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All that matters is that the Wii U is fully capable of handling ports of the PS4/nextBox and doing so without that much of a drop off. What's required to get to that point doesn't matter in the least. If it's able to handle ports of the two other next gen systems with being 1.5x that of the Xbox than thats fine. No matter how powerful the Wii U is or isn't, Nintendo will be able to make amazing looking games. That isn't the concern. The concern is if it will handle PS4/NextBox ports.
Holy carp this thread exploded since I was here last.
The Wii U will be between 100% and 500% the power of the X360 in some areas, but I'm betting its more commonly in the 100-200% processing power. It will take some effort by developers to create something dramatically nicer looking than the HD Twins, it won't be like they just click some buttons and get double the resolution and framerate, even if such performance was possible...would take a tweaking of code I imagine.
The Wii U will be between 100% and 500% the power of the X360 in some areas, but I'm betting its more commonly in the 100-200% processing power. It will take some effort by developers to create something dramatically nicer looking than the HD Twins, it won't be like they just click some buttons and get double the resolution and framerate, even if such performance was possible...would take a tweaking of code I imagine.
Grampa Simpson
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The best way is of course in terms of Dragon Ball Z.
Hero of Legend
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Has it been posted that 5th Cell is working on a Wii U launch title and that Pipeworks is also working on a Wii U game?
I hope Pipeworks is making another Godzilla, the GC Destroy All Monsters Melee was BOSS, but I avoided Unleashed on Wii due to the controls apparently being terribad with no other controller options.
I hope Pipeworks is making another Godzilla, the GC Destroy All Monsters Melee was BOSS, but I avoided Unleashed on Wii due to the controls apparently being terribad with no other controller options.
AceBandage
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Has it been posted that 5th Cell is working on a Wii U launch title and that Pipeworks is also working on a Wii U game?
I hope Pipeworks is making another Godzilla, the GC Destroy All Monsters Melee was BOSS, but I avoided Unleashed on Wii due to the controls apparently being terribad with no other controller options.
I bet the 5th Cell game is their shooter.
IceDoesntHelp
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Save that for the 1080 Avalanche sequel.
Yes it has, about 2 pages ago if I recall correctly (as well as posted again on the last page)Has it been posted that 5th Cell is working on a Wii U launch title and that Pipeworks is also working on a Wii U game?
I hope Pipeworks is making another Godzilla, the GC Destroy All Monsters Melee was BOSS, but I avoided Unleashed on Wii due to the controls apparently being terribad with no other controller options.
Right on the money.
The idea as we all came to accept it, was that the Wii U was likely going to be powerful enough for up-ports of PS360 games and down-ports of 720/PS4 games when 3rd party development inevitably transitioned to those being the primary systems. It was never about Wii U getting cutting edge graphics, but Nintendo realizing that maintaining parity with their competition was important. Arkam's claims cast a little doubt on that, but we shall see.
AceBandage
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If its a repackaged 360 they better not go above 250. If they offer a decent butnot mind blowing upgrade 300-350 is acceptable.
IceDoesntHelp
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-Pyromaniac-
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399 is a bust for me.
299 is a definite, 249 is a wet dream, 349 is what I expect, and that's doable IF the launch and launch window are looking GREAT.
Fourth Storm
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Agreed.
You know, considering this is already the second Wii U Spectulation Thread, I sometimes wonder how come it's got so many views and even posts. Clearly people must be immensly interested in Nintendo's next big thing as well as Nintendo themselves. It's gotta be FUN for you all or even an obsession of some sort, because you - fuck, me included - can't stop thinking about the damn thing. As soon as new information leaks, people jump on it like vultures on dead meat. The fact that Nintendo knows how to keep it's secrets makes it even more exciting and fun.
Nintendo must be the best thing ever, because they know how to produce enjoyment. Even just the thinking/the speculation about the Wii U let's people have fun - that's how genius they are. Nintendo's partly made out of PURE MAGIC it seems, don't you see? They know what you want, want makes you happy, even before you do. They could provide you with the details, but they don't want to. They just know how much fun it is to speculate about them.
They even have Ninjas, how is that?
Nintendo must be the best thing ever, because they know how to produce enjoyment. Even just the thinking/the speculation about the Wii U let's people have fun - that's how genius they are. Nintendo's partly made out of PURE MAGIC it seems, don't you see? They know what you want, want makes you happy, even before you do. They could provide you with the details, but they don't want to. They just know how much fun it is to speculate about them.
They even have Ninjas, how is that?
AceBandage
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As much as people gripe on Nintendo for not announcing things and what not, they know how to build hype with minimal effort.
I mean, hell. Look at the Dojo thread. That thing broke GAF more than once. And it was just a website update! With mostly useless information!
So, when you have Nintendo go "Oh, hey, our next handheld will have 3D without glasses." or "Our next console will be HD with a funky tablet controller." people get excited because who the fuck knows what they're really doing with that technology.
-Pyromaniac-
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This thread gets a lot of posts also because it's the only next-gen console topic with anything concrete, and it's also very controversial. Lots of new shit for Nintendo to be getting into. Nintendo always demands attention and people deservedly give it.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I was about to post something earlier today, then I thought nah, who cares, but I'll post it now:
Game consoles are too darn complex systems to be meaningfully subjected to 'console_x = N * console_y' or 'console_x > console_y'. You really need to break down each system into a metric ton of factors until you can start to meaningfully use such statements (and then with a grain of salt). Until you do that, you're just fooling yourself via such equations. So if you get a source that tells you such info, or you yourself are tempted to make such statements - please, don't take that and run with it. As only shitstorms await down that road. Heck, we all know how 'ps3 is oh-so-many-times more powerful' went this gen.
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