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[SCULLIBUNDO]

How is what Cameron doing any different from some of the pursuits of Howard Hughes?

Because Cameron isn't just pushing tech and re-inventing an industry (this time). He is seeking to find new life. I'd say between that, his advisory role at NASA and the huge funding he has put behind the Mars Council, his ventures are more pioneering not in the technological sense, but in the exploratory sense.

Fun fact: A lot of Avatar was shot in the same hangar that Hughes used to build The Hercules.

 

[Dead]

Also, JC isn't collecting piss in jars.


at least not yet...

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Also, JC isn't collecting piss in jars.


at least not yet...

Course not. He collects piss in wet suits. Just ask Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio.

 

[Tookay]

What if Cameron's craft imploded and he died, and Borgnine made a movie about the disaster and became filthy rich, would that be tasteless?

This deserved more recognition.

Still props to Cameron for doing this, especially if it is by himself. That's insane.

 

[Kyaw]

How does shrimp and flounder withstand that much pressure?

By having the same pressure inside their bodies as the outside pressure, right?

 

[Team Filler]

Right, I was more implying that Cameron doing these ventures with his own money is not too different to what Hughes often did, and Hughes & company changed the world.

 

[Puddles]

Cameron seems pretty well-versed in the scientific aspect of this stuff. He isn't exactly a layman.

Not that Hughes was either; I'm replying to the "Why don't they send a real scientist?" crowd.

 

[shira]

By having the same pressure inside their bodies as the outside pressure, right?

So inside their bodies is 1100 Atmospheres of pressure?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Right, I was more implying that Cameron doing these ventures with his own money is not too different to what Hughes often did, and Hughes & company changed the world.

Hughes and company changed air travel, yes. Cameron has changed the movie industry. Both affecting an industry.

What is different with this venture is that it is exploratory. It is in the pursuit of knowledge.

 

[Kyaw]

So inside their bodies is 1100 Atmospheres of pressure?

I don't know! I was asking the question.

 

[Puddles]

So inside their bodies is 1100 Atmospheres of pressure?

It would have to be pretty close to that, or else they'd collapse.

 

[tino]

James looks like someone wanting to discover something NO ONE ELSE has ever discovered.

Would not be surprised if he ventures off into space exploration

Avatar trilogy is the largest ever kickstarter project to fund Cameron's one-way Mars manned mission.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

What if Cameron's craft imploded and he died, and Borgnine made a movie about the disaster and became filthy rich, would that be tasteless?

daaayum.

 

[Derwind]

How does shrimp and flounder withstand that much pressure?

By having the same pressure inside their bodies as the outside pressure, right?

So inside their bodies is 1100 Atmospheres of pressure?

I don't know! I was asking the question.

It would have to be pretty close to that, or else they'd collapse.

And it has to be the secret of why they taste so disturbingly good!!!!

 

[Gorgon]

we know more about the moon, maybe even mars than we know about the ocean

This shit is repeated over and over and over. It's false, don't be obtuse. Unless "knowing more" for you means having visual maps (most of them low rez), while any other kind of knowledge doesn't count.

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

And it has to be the secret of why they taste so disturbingly good!!!!

wait, so you're eating shrimp that live at the bottom of the ocean then?

 

[Gorgon]

Cameron seems pretty well-versed in the scientific aspect of this stuff. He isn't exactly a layman.

Not that Hughes was either; I'm replying to the "Why don't they send a real scientist?" crowd.

He isn't exactely very knowledgeble either. His knowledge, as far as the science goes, is of a person who really likes this stuff and reads widely about it, but he is still a layman. A well cultured laymen.

His brother is a marine engineer working with stuff like ROVs, etc. That helps.

On the other hand, for this kind of exploratiom, a real scientist won't make any difference for a 6 hour dive that is paid by Cameron himself.

 

[ArtaxLives]

For those asking how animals can survive under such pressure.
They can survive at those depths because there bodies do not contain much gaseous substances, they are essentially filled with liquid. Since liquids like water are virtually incompressible there is no difference in pressure between the animals and the surrounding water.
Humans could theoretically survive the same way as we are mostly just water, if our lungs were not filled with air. Like how Ed Harris dives into the deep in The Abyss.

Im sure Science-GAF will come in and explain it better.

 

[Gorgon]

So inside their bodies is 1100 Atmospheres of pressure?

Yes. Because the liquid pressure inside their bodies is the same as outside. There is no air in body cavities, so there is no problem. There are other biochemical aspects to the adaptation, but nothing here is mind-blowing.

EDIT: beaten

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

He isn't exactely very knowledgeble either. His knowledge, as far as the science goes, is of a person who really likes this stuff and reads widely about it, but he is still a layman. A well cultured laymen.

His brother is a marine engineer working with stuff like ROVs, etc. That helps.

On the other hand, for this kind of exploratiom, a real scientist won't make any difference for a 6 hour dive that is paid by Cameron himself.

In what world is Cameron a layman when it comes to this? The guy has worked with a number of engineers to build a huge amount of deep sea equipment - including improving the ROVs, different kinds of submersibles (including the one he's diving to the trench in) and has gone on more than 75 submersible dives in total. He has been diving since the eighties and knows more about that world than any person who has had a few run ins with it. He is more than an enthusiast. The guy is a fucking fanatic that I'm convinced would like to live under the sea.

Calling Cameron a layman of deep-sea diving is ridiculous.

 

[shira]

In what world is Cameron a layman when it comes to this? The guy has worked with a number of engineers to build a huge amount of deep sea equipment - including improving the ROVs, different kinds of submersibles (including the one he's diving to the trench in) and has gone on more than 75 submersible dives in total. He has been diving since the eighties and knows more about that world than any person who has had a few run ins with it. He is more than an enthusiast. The guy is a fucking fanatic that I'm convinced would like to live under the sea.

Calling Cameron a layman of deep-sea diving is ridiculous.

Unobtanium. C'mon that's bad science.

 

[Gorgon]

In what world is Cameron a layman when it comes to this? The guy has worked with a number of engineers to build a huge amount of deep sea equipment - including improving the ROVs, different kinds of submersibles (including the one he's diving to the trench in) and has gone on more than 75 submersible dives in total. He has been diving since the eighties and knows more about that world than any person who has had a few run ins with it. He is more than an enthusiast. The guy is a fucking fanatic that I'm convinced would like to live under the sea.

Calling Cameron a layman of deep-sea diving is ridiculous.

Actually I was talking about the biology/geology part, but since I commented on his brother enginner maybe I didn't make my point clear.

Anyway, his brother is the real technical/engineering knowledge guy, though. Cameron is the guy that pays the bill and puts everything in motion. Obviously he knows a lot about it, but it's not like he was the one designing the systems, although he did contribute a lot of ideas for design. I whish everyone had the knowledge this guy has.

I'm not attacking Cameron, shill out. I'm all for what this guy is doing. The passion this guy shows for this stuff is comendable. Better to put his money in this than in Ferraris.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

James Cameron has just completed an 8km dive in preparation for his plunge to the bottom of the Mariana Trench

Director James Cameron has said that he is close to diving 11km (seven miles) down to the deepest part of the ocean, the Mariana Trench in the western Pacific.

He has just successfully completed a test-dive 8km (five miles) down off the coast of Papua New Guinea.

Mr Cameron said: "The deep trenches are the last unexplored frontier on our planet, with scientific riches enough to fill 100 years of exploration."

Mr Cameron's sub is called the Deepsea Challenge, and was built by an Australian team of engineers. It fits just one person, which will be the director himself.

It is kitted out with cameras, including a small stereoscopic camera that can withstand the 1,000 atmospheres of pressure that are found 11km beneath the waves.

Mr Cameron said that he plans to spend six hours exploring the bottom of the trench, and would be gathering footage for a 3D documentary based on the dive.

He will also be collecting samples for the scientific community.

He said: "Our goal is to build a scientific legacy for generations to come.

 

[tino]

I am more interested in the machine and technology behind the sub to be honest with you.

Does he need to full himself with the liquid oxygen thing?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I am more interested in the machine and technology behind the sub to be honest with you.

Does he need to full himself with the liquid oxygen thing?

You mean fluorocarbon? No.

 

[The Elite]

This is insane. Absolutely insane. I was a huge Cameron fan back in the 90s. Like Sculli huge. I didn't follow his career that much in the 2000s but I'm going to be tracking this every step of the way.

We need more men like him on the planet. Lots of money and willing to cut through the bullshit for science, exploration and innovation. As well as make fun films!

 

[Angry Fork]

I wish there was someone like this for space exploration but that costs a lot more =(

btw when is this actually happening? He's going to film it all right?

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

I absolutely love how this guy has managed to live a life where he does whatever he feels like, and all he has to do in exchange is make one movie every few years, where he has complete creative control and unprecedented access to the studio bank account.

 

[y2dvd]

I don't get how anyone can wish ill on this venture just because they don't like some of his movies. And they are questioning what good HIS HOBBIES will bring to the scientific community, to humanity it sounds like for some of yall. Last I checked, me playing video games and watching movies didn't contribute to shit in humanity. This guy will discover new life, map out more of the ocean, have never before seen footage of the unknown, and bring samples of whatever the heck is down there. God speed, Cameron.

 

[Nappuccino]

I don't get how anyone can wish ill on this venture just because they don't like some of his movies. And they are questioning what good HIS HOBBIES will bring to the scientific community, to humanity it sounds like for some of yall. Last I checked, me playing video games and watching movies didn't contribute to shit in humanity. This guy will discover new life, map out more of the ocean, have never before seen footage of the unknown, and bring samples of whatever the heck is down there. God speed, Cameron.

I thought the people who loved his movies were wishing ill-will because they couldn't get over that Cameron wasn't making any movies at all.

Personally, I just want Alita and then I couldn't care less what Cameron does with his time lol.

 

[Solo]

James Cameron has just completed an 8km dive in preparation for his plunge to the bottom of the Mariana Trench

James looking lean and mean again!

 

[Kinyou]

I wonder if there'll be much difference between 8km and 11km

 

[Ithil]

James looking lean and mean again!

And rocking his short hair and beard again.

That's like Peter Jackson being fat again, it's a good sign.

 

[thebaroness]

Totally off topic, but your two avatars look like they are looking at each other. hehe

Anyways, I'm still excited to see what he finds down there. I hope the trip is successful, then I hope he goes into space. Mad props James!

 

[JB1981]

I absolutely love how this guy has managed to live a life where he does whatever he feels like, and all he has to do in exchange is make one movie every few years, where he has complete creative control and unprecedented access to the studio bank account.

Well after Titanic yea

 

[GhaleonEB]

And rocking his short hair and beard again.

That's like Peter Jackson being fat again, it's a good sign.

Hah, I had this same thought. Cameron looks quite a few years younger than at the end of Avatar's production. He's back in decent shape.

 

[Emwitus]

He has no clue what story avatar 2's gonna have, doesn't he? That's the only reason his ignoring the project, right?

 

[J2 Cool]

Not sure if this was posted. http://gizmodo.com/5891550/james-camerons-new-sub-will-take-him-to-the-deepest-spot-on-earth

Cool to see video. Cameron's such a bad ass.

 

[Bit-Bit]

Not sure if this was posted. http://gizmodo.com/5891550/james-camerons-new-sub-will-take-him-to-the-deepest-spot-on-earth

Cool to see video. Cameron's such a bad ass.

That was pretty cool. I hope there's a 3D documentary of the dive.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

What is there to find in the Mariana Trench? Leap Day William?

On a serious note, the thing that blows me away more than this is the fact that the other team did it 50 years ago in that ramshackle looking sub.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Not sure if this was posted. http://gizmodo.com/5891550/james-camerons-new-sub-will-take-him-to-the-deepest-spot-on-earth

Cool to see video. Cameron's such a bad ass.

That was great.

Can't wait to see what comes of this.

 

[y2dvd]

I thought the people who loved his movies were wishing ill-will because they couldn't get over that Cameron wasn't making any movies at all.

Personally, I just want Alita and then I couldn't care less what Cameron does with his time lol.

Yeah, but to wish him death?! Not saying you did it but to whomever did.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

James Cameron has just completed an 8km dive in preparation for his plunge to the bottom of the Mariana Trench

Oh, yeah! The beard is back and the hair is short. Kick ass Cameron is back.

 

[zephervack]

He is going alone? holy shit, mad respect, cant wait to see the documentary that comes out of this.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

I've always just assumed he is a joke character still trying to make people pay attention to him.

Teehee, seems like it's finally paying off! YAY

It's impossible to have a different opinion around here and not be a joke character. Everyone must revere James Cameron, Christopher Nolan and Peter Jackson, there's just no way around it.

Doesn't he write for a film magazine in Montreal or something? I don't think I've ever agreed with any of his opinions, but he must watch a lot of films at least.

I did for a couple of years like 5-6 years ago, but now I'm just an avid moviegoer. Scullibundo just doesn't like me because we rarely (if ever) agree on anything. I don't know how he tolerates Solo, though, since Solo and I's tastes have a lot in common.

And to be really honest, my opinion about this has nothing to do with James Cameron's filmmaking career. I think it's just another billionaire trying to get more recognition by paying his way into history books. He's just like Branson. If that makes me a hate-ridden joke character, then by all means, you can say that's what I am.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

This is pretty exciting, I'll be following it with interest. Pleases me that when rich people spend their money on adventures and discoveries like this. OK sure they could be spending it on research for cures or whatever, but there's not much adventure and discovery these days, so I welcome this news. Makes life interesting.

 

[UnluckyKate]

He's not looking for the Abyss alien but for Yoko's body that has been drop from orbit and felt into the abyss instead of the junkyard.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Not sure if this was posted. http://gizmodo.com/5891550/james-camerons-new-sub-will-take-him-to-the-deepest-spot-on-earth

Cool to see video. Cameron's such a bad ass.

Nice find! That was great.

 

[strafer]

Jim is back to his old Titanic self

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Jim is back to his old Titanic self

Yep. That's what I was thinking.