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[InsaneZero]

I'd only want a Yoshi's Island if it was done in-house at EAD with Tezuka back as one of the directors.

In other words, I don't want another Yoshi's Island.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

lol. I wonder if anyone actually thought it would look like that.

lol

 

[AceBandage]

lol. I wonder if anyone actually thought it would look like that.

Well, that is basically how it was described at first.

 

[Shadowlink]

I'd only want a Yoshi's Island if it was done in-house at EAD with Tezuka back as one of the directors.

In other words, I don't want another Yoshi's Island.

With all those rumors about Good Feel developing the next one, I wouldn't mind them developing it with Tezuka as one of the directors.

 

[InsaneZero]

With all those rumors about Good Feel developing the next one, I wouldn't mind them developing it with Tezuka as one of the directors.

For this scenario to occur, you'll have to make the giant leap of assuming that Tezuka is going to be a director again.

 

[LegendofJoe]

The only game I DEMAND for the WiiU is a sequel to Four Swords. If I don't get it I will burn effigies of Iwata, Miyamoto, and Aonuma.

 

[Shadowlink]

For this scenario to occur, you'll have to make the giant leap of assuming that Tezuka is going to be a director again.

Why not? We're already assuming a ton of shit like Metroid Prime 4, Retro Zelda, F-Zero, Star Fox, Earthbound HD, etc.

 

[invaderzim69]

I want Rare and Nintendo to make a brand new Killer Instinct. Combo breaker!!!!

 

[Kerub]

Remember these mock ups:

Haha oh wow. Nintendo would never make anything as cool as that.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

The only game I DEMAND for the WiiU is a sequel to Four Swords. If I don't get it I will burn effigies of Iwata, Miyamoto, and Aonuma.

I don't want that all! At least not made by the Aunoma and the A team.

 

[The M.O.B]

The best fake mockup of them all.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

That reminds me of this classic:

 

[InsaneZero]

Why not? We're already assuming a ton of shit like Metroid Prime 4, Retro Zelda, F-Zero, Star Fox, Earthbound HD, etc.

Well, while we're wishing for stuff I suppose I can wish for Nintendo to lend Monolith Soft to Square Enix so they can work on a Xenogears remake. Then I can also wish that tomorrow an insider will burst into this thread to reveal that Wii U is actually running a hypothetical UE5 engine.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Why are people who voice their opinion being demonized? Nintendo wants to make games that people want to play, and we are the customers. It makes sense to say what we want to play, and it makes sense for them to listen. That doesn't mean they are completely at our mercy.

If Nintendo listened to fans......

*shudders*

And I think that listening to fans in regards to what direction Mario (or Zelda) should take is best summed up by this quote:

"If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they'd have demanded a faster horse." -Henry Ford

 

[Shadowlink]

Well, while we're wishing for stuff I suppose I can wish for Nintendo to lend Monolith Soft to Square Enix so they can work on a Xenogears remake. Then I can also wish that tomorrow an insider will burst into this thread to reveal that Wii U is actually running a hypothetical UE5 engine.

Now we need to figure out how to make wishful thinking come true.....

 

[TheCongressman1]

If Nintendo listened to fans......

Perhaps you missed the part were I said "That doesn't mean they are completely at our mercy."

There are plenty of silly ideas out there, but on the other hand, there are just as many fantastic ideas that have come from fans. You can't just throw them all out because of those drawings. Like I have said, Nintendo has sense. They wouldn't just take the first suggestion that comes their way.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I think that Aunoma plans to do something very different with Zelda on WiiU. He has just been talking a lot lately on evolving the series and taking it to the next level (whatever that ends up being is another story). I've heard/had lots of good ideas for the series but I'm curious to see what he ends up going with. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the devs right now.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

The only game I DEMAND for the WiiU is a sequel to Four Swords. If I don't get it I will burn effigies of Iwata, Miyamoto, and Aonuma.

How would that be supposed to be working?

Split screen local multi-player?
Or online cooperative up-to-4-players perhaps?


Even if it should support 3DSs as GBA controllers, it wouldn't be a big deal IMO, it would stay extremely niche.

 

[ffdgh]

ahh that mature mario topic... still creepy

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

We all know what the future of mario is anyway:

 

[AceBandage]

ahh that mature mario topic... still creepy

Bad memories for me.
D:

 

[Kjellson]

Mario should be in the same vein as this:

Yo.

 

[ffdgh]

Mario should be in the same vein as this:

Yo.

so he needs more zippers

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Why won't Nintendo just go back to the 2D Top-down Zelda? It was the peak of the series.

 

[Kjellson]

so he needs more zippers

I actually googled "mario rpg belt zippers". Good enough.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Why won't Nintendo just go back to the 2D Top-down Zelda? It was the peak of the series.

pssshtt, Ocarina of time was the peak. Just make the same thing but muchmuch more and it would be instant 10/10s.

 

[Indyana]

ahh that mature mario topic... still creepy

Don't worry, we still have time to talk about Zelda: steampunk, mature, cell-shaded...

Edit: beaten.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Perhaps you missed the part were I said "That doesn't mean they are completely at our mercy."

There are plenty of silly ideas out there, but on the other hand, there are just as many fantastic ideas that have come from fans. You can't just throw them all out because of those drawings. Like I have said, Nintendo has sense. They wouldn't just take the first suggestion that comes their way.

I've never seen a fantastic idea come from a fan outside of small tweaks (like ideas for HUDs in Zelda). All I see are people demanding more of the same or more of what used to be. Never something that's yet to be done.

edit- and as evidence for my claim:

Why won't Nintendo just go back to the 2D Top-down Zelda? It was the peak of the series.

pssshtt, Ocarina of time was the peak. Just make the same thing but muchmuch more and it would be instant 10/10s

Mind you, I see no fault with waxing over what iteration of a series you're most fond of, but Nintendo is very wise to know that what fans want and what will keep the series fresh are two totally separate concepts.

 

[ffdgh]

hmm mature zelda....Idk if that would be equal or worse than mature mario.

 

[BasilZero]

Why won't Nintendo just go back to the 2D Top-down Zelda? It was the peak of the series.

They should go back to it but imo release games on the 3DS imo.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

They should go back to it but imo release games on the 3DS imo.

now that I'd be happy with.

 

[Gravijah]

well, ph and st....

 

[ffdgh]

truthfully i would mind a topdown zelda like that one stage from super mario 3d land.

 

[TheCongressman1]

I've never seen a fantastic idea come from a fan outside of small tweaks (like ideas for HUDs in Zelda). All I see are people demaning more of the same or more of what used to be. Never something that's yet to be done.

That's a shame, you're missing out. It's also insulting that you assume that all fans are morons, or can't come up with something interesting.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

pssshtt, Ocarina of time was the peak. Just make the same thing but muchmuch more and it would be instant 10/10s.

Eh. Link to the Past is still the Greatest masterpiece Nintendo has ever done. Give me another 2D Zelda.

 

[AniHawk]

troll much? lol

no, i mean if the skies team were to make another game, it'd probably be a 3ds or vita title, since they've been making psp games for the last three years. i'd rather their next game be a console game like skies of arcadia or the first valkyria chronicles.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

That's a shame, you're missing out. It's also insulting that you assume that all fans are morons, or can't come up with something interesting.

I didn't say they were morons. It simply makes sense. Fans are fans because they like something about a series. They're naturally going to demand more of it. There's nothing moronic about that. Nintendo's job is to find and create what fans don't know they want yet, not provide more of what's been done. I'm fine with suggestions that venture into totally untreaded territory, but I think it's in Nintendo's best interest to ignore any idea that revolves around "going back to" a past iteration or being "Just like _____, but more of everything."

 

[Kjellson]

2D Zeldas are overrated.

 

[TheCongressman1]

I didn't say they were morons. It simply makes sense. Fans are fans because they like something about a series. They're naturally going to demand more of it. There's nothing moronic about that. Nintendo's job is to find and create what fans don't know they want yet, not provide more of what's been done. I'm fine with suggestions that venture into totally untreaded territory, but I think it's in Nintendo's best interest to ignore any idea that revolves around "going back to" a past iteration or being "Just like _____, but more of everything."

What you said in your first post was along the line of "Nintendo should not listen to fans", that would include suggestions of untreaded territory. I agree that in some instances Nintendo should not cater to fans, which is why I said in my first post "That doesn't mean they are completely at our mercy." I'm not sure how much more clear I can make myself. I think Nintendo would be foolish to ignore fan feedback, but they would also be foolish to bend to their will.

That being said. It seems you are arguing the same thing in this post. What gives?

 

[AceBandage]

2D Zeldas are overrated.

Except Link's Awakening. AKA, best Zelda ever.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

2D Zeldas are overrated.

Zelda 1, Link to the Past, and Links Awakening look down on all other Zelda's.

 

[invaderzim69]

I would love to see the Starfox universe crossover with the Star Wars universe!! Its crazy, but possible.

 

[AniHawk]

Except Link's Awakening. AKA, best Zelda ever.

and minish cap, its attractive cousin.

 

[AceBandage]

I would love to see the Starfox universe crossover with the Star Wars universe!! Its crazy, but possible.

Nah, Lucas would find some way of ruining it.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I would love to see the Starfox universe crossover with the Star Wars universe!! Its crazy, but possible.

lay off the crack

 

[Kjellson]

I played Link's Awakening a couple of months ago on my 3DS. It's good, but not great.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

What you said is "Nintendo should not listen to fans", that would include suggestions of untreaded territory. I agree that in some instances Nintendo should not cater to fans, which is why I said in my first post "That doesn't mean they are completely at our mercy." I'm not sure how much more clear I can make myself. I think Nintendo would be foolish to ignore fan feedback, but they would also be foolish to bend to their will.

That being said. It seems you are arguing the same thing in this post. What gives?

They shouldn't listen. The only exception to this, in my mind, is if there's widespread backlash against a certain feature of a game. This lets Nintendo know what they shouldn't do again. Any suggestion that tries to direct Nintendo toward what they SHOULD do again, though, is best ignored. And I've never heard an idea from a fan, even my own musings, that I thought was better than what Nintendo ultimately comes up with on their own accord. So, yes, ideas that venture into totally new areas are fun to read, but I don't think I've seen one better than Nintendo's own creations. If you feel like there are ideas from fans out there that would change my mind with how brilliant they are, I'd honestly like to read them.

 

[Aguila]

So I'm skimming through some of the confusing US Wii U trademarks (you can search for them here) and I've found some interesting details.

There are several trademarks that mention telecommunication networks, online chatrooms/bulletin boards/forums, television telephones, and movies/music/sounds on "hand-held game machines with liquid crystal displays" (the tablet controller). The telecommunication stuff makes it seem like Nintendo is going to be teaming up with either phone companies or television providers (or both). All of that would make the Wii U controller like a huge smartphone. There have been rumors of Nintendo speaking to some television providers at CES but if they team with phone providers Nintendo will then be truly competing with other phone manufacturers on some scale (Apple )! It also looks like Nintendo is bringing back their online forums, maybe????

 

[Rösti]

I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I've seen no mention of it. Anyway, has Nintendo said anything about using the Wii U remote as a television receiver?

At around 41:34 in the video of Nintendo's E3 2011 media briefing, there's a sequence of a guy entering a room where another guy is playing New Super Mario Bros. Mii (looks like it anyway). And it's apparently time to watch some baseball, so the gamer dude has to succumb to playing on the small screen while the other guy can watch baseball on the bigger screen. Now, I can see some annoyance, at least in some households, building up if this will become a repeated pattern and New Super Mario Bros. Mii or whatever game has to resort to the Wii U remote every time there's some good tv program. Thus, it would be a nice feature if you could perhaps take turns - one day the game is on the big screen and the TV program is on the Wii U remote screen, next day it's vice versa.

How the Wii U manages to stream content from a big screen to the controller screen I don't know, nor have I any insight in what standard procedures it uses. Though I would assume it works similar to that of a TV tuner card, so technically speaking it shouldn't be impossible to utilize the Wii U remote as a TV receiver, questions arising are then related to copyright and EULAs. Anyone knows if this is semi-accurate or if I'm talking baloney?

Here's the video: http://media.nintendo.com/e3/_ui/videos/E3_06072011_Nintendo_Press_Conference_English2.mp4

Aguila, that's common practice, and exists for Wii as well. For trademark Wii with Serial Number 78980447:

G & S: Communication services, namely, electronic transmission of data and documents among users of computers; electronic mail services; providing online communication and electronic bulletin boards for transmission of messages among users in the field of general interest; providing online communication services for transmission of messages among computer users; providing wireless access to computer networks and Internet; streaming of audio and video material on the Internet; text and numeric wireless digital messaging services; web messaging services; wireless broadband communication services; wireless digital messaging services; wireless electronic transmission of data, images and information. FIRST USE: 20061119. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20061119

 

[AceBandage]

I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I've seen no mention of it. Anyway, has Nintendo said anything about using the Wii U remote as a television receiver?

At around 41:34 in the video of Nintendo's E3 2011 media briefing, there's a sequence of a guy entering a room where another guy is playing New Super Mario Bros. Mii (looks like it anyway). And it's apparently time to watch some baseball, so the gamer dude has to succumb to playing on the small screen while the other guy can watch baseball on the bigger screen. Now, I can see some annoyance, at least in some households, building up if this will become a repeated pattern and New Super Mario Bros. Mii or whatever game has to resort to the Wii U remote every time there's some good tv program. Thus, it would be a nice feature if you could perhaps take turns - one day the game is on the big screen and the TV program is on the Wii U remote screen, next day it's vice versa.

How the Wii U manages to stream content from a big screen to the controller screen I don't know, nor have I any insight in what standard procedures it uses. Though I would assume it works similar to that of a TV tuner card, so technically speaking it shouldn't be impossible to utilize the Wii U remote as a TV receiver, questions arising are then related to copyright and EULAs. Anyone knows if this is semi-accurate or if I'm talking baloney?

Here's the video: http://media.nintendo.com/e3/_ui/videos/E3_06072011_Nintendo_Press_Conference_English2.mp4

It would be such a huge headache to program all the IR and Radio wavelengths for every single TV brand and model.