Yes there was a planet that had a huge scar from a weapon shot. I believe it leads to the dead Reaper in ME2
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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Yes there was a planet that had a huge scar from a weapon shot. I believe it leads to the dead Reaper in ME2
WrenchNinja
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Its where the derelict reaper was.
Could someone elaborate on the dark energy plot you speak of? I vaguely remember that being mentioned in the first game, but never being touched on again. The Reapers' motivations always seemed nebulous, though. First they're going to harvest all organic races because of dark energy, then because they use organic species to procreate, then because they need to keep organics from creating synthetics that will kill all the organics.
Blue Ninja
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Klendagon. In ME1, you get to explore its moon Presrop. In ME2, it's how they found the derelict Reaper.
Which was not in orbit around Klendagon, btw. Can't remember what the planet was called, but it was a gas giant.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
There was another planet where they apparently unearthed a downed Reaper.
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Blue Ninja
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You mean the Leviathan of Dis?
dragonelite
Member
Every time a mass effect field is used they release some Dark energy.
And something something dark energy expanding the universe faster then it should.
So maybe by the higher density of dark energy the galaxy rips apart or stars go super nova.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Thanks, guys. That would have been a very easy way for them to link the Crucible to the previous games...
WrenchNinja
Member
Playing through Mass Effect again, Presop was where you did that mission with Major Kyle and the biotic compound. A dead reaper being around might be a reason why everyone was crazy down there
Felix Lighter
Member
Right now you probably realize what you just saw was bad but your still trying to piece it together in your mind. Once you have a chance to digest it all you will realize it's even worse than you thought.
AdmiralSnackbar
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The skybox featuring that planet was so good I still find it showing up in legitimate astronomy galleries online.
WrenchNinja
Member
Are you describing a reaper or the ending. I can't tell.
My fanfic would include the following:
- 40 million years ago . . . although that would destroy that image with the dinosaurs.
- The creators of the Citadel were highly advanced organics.
- They created it and the mass relays to cross the galaxy.
- They created some kind of synthetic organism that went iRobot.
- The Guardian/Catalyst witnessed the "cycle" here.
- Being an AI of some sort, it hacked into the synthetic's systems and began the Reaper program.
- This is one reason it uses I and we interchangeably. It's part of everything.
- The creator race didn't see the Reapers as the solution the Catalyst believed it to be.
- They begin plans for the Crucible.
- A massive war ensues. They use a huge cannon on Klendagon.
However, Space Magic(TM) really destroys it. How in the hell can something be programed to disperse nano machines throughout the galaxy?
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
What color did you get?
Quite a lot of stuff from the leaked seemed cut out from the game. Kai Leng was supposed to be a much more menacing threat according to the leaked scripts, where he would hinder your progress every step of the way. It shows- the game tried really hard to make you want to hate Kai Leng as this big bad rival to your Shepard, but he felt more like a small annoyance with plot armor.
Also, Udina had a bigger role. He was supposed to be manipulating the council to be on his side throughout the game. Ashley and Kaidan both had a lot of dialogue cut out for some reason, and the standoff scene was supposed to be more tense.
Thank you... I guess?
Well, I'm in silence, thinking what game I should play next. Thinking, but my mind is so...sad? I'm not sad, or upset...
To be honest I don't know what to feel.
As the game progressed I started to do some choices that I knew I could have chosen better. But it's okay, I could play again ME3 next year, or something. But I just don't see it coming. Not after I watched the endings I missed.
lastplayed
Member
The reapers assumed the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one.
Blue Ninja
Member
The dead Reaper's in orbit around Mnemosyne, a gas giant. Klendagon and Mnemosyne are both in the Hawking Eta cluster, but in different star systems. So no, the people in the compound were crazy because Kyle was crazy, not because there was a dead Reaper floating above their heads.
Klendagon's only important because the Great Rift valley you can see while in Presrop was caused by a mass accelerator impact. Cerberus scientists somehow calculated where the round came from and where it was headed. That's how they found the remains of the Reaper.
Sounds like disappointment with a hint of depression.
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Photolysis
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As I understand it, the plan was originally as follows:
1) There's a buildup of dark energy in the galaxy. The reapers are trying to solve the problem by allowing races to develop using their technology and then harvesting advanced races to build new reapers, and pressing the reset button on the rest of galactic civilisation to buy them more time for the next cycle by limiting the damage.
2) Shepard stopped the reapers from invading in ME1, delaying them. So they have the Collectors start building a human reaper in ME2 because the buildup is getting to dangerous levels and there'll be more stuff like the Haestrom sun as seen on Tali's recruitment mission.
3) Because humans are special or whatever, the latest human reaper would finally allow them to solve the dark energy problem once and for all, bringing the cycle to an end. Players would have been given a choice to destroy the reapers and try and have everyone find a solution to the problem in the remaining time, or let humanity be harvested to create a new reaper.
The reason why the actual plot is an incoherent mess is because, well, it's an incoherent mess. That's what happens when stuff gets changed mid-way by writers who don't know what the fuck they are doing.
With the original plot and a few changes you explain ME2's plot and why it was important, you have the foreshadowing in ME2 which makes sense, you get a way of defeating the reapers that doesn't come out of nowhere, and you actually have a reasonably coherent and interesting motivation, leading to an interesting choice for the player.
Thanks! After reading that, I don't think I would have even been bothered by the whole "Reapers exist to prevent a synthetic singularity" motivation for their actions if it hadn't been brought up in the last five FREAKING minutes of the game.
Blue Ninja
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This made me chuckle. Checking out the main Mass Effect 3-article at the Mass Effect Wikia, and they have this nice headline above it.
Mac Walters am cry.
Mac Walters am cry.
chickdigger802
Banned
Another day, another ME3 spoiler podcast.
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/3/26/2898253/mass-effect-3-ending-talk
It is a pretty all star lineup.
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/3/26/2898253/mass-effect-3-ending-talk
It is a pretty all star lineup.
Why are they allowing races to build themselves up using mass relay technology when that furthers the propagation of dark energy?
Nah. In the end it's just a game, but it's my fault to expect something better. I blame myself for the hype. But it's okay
When I saw joker coming from the Normandy I was like, weren't you fighting?
Then I saw Javik leaving and then Liara, then... nothing? Why these two? Liara was my love btw. COME ON. I also played RAGE and saw that ending (lol) but come oooon, it's a trilogy, man.
PS: Maybe I'll take the T-Shirt since for the Price of that DLC I can get Journey!
dragonelite
Member
Can i haz one t shirt please.
The whole beginning and end of ME2's suicide mission is a Normandy joygasm.
Felix Lighter
Member
Oh wow. I would imagine they felt the need to change the third game because the human reaper was rightfully despised by the fans.
I got the Art of Mass Effect for my Birthday a few days ago, man, there is some fantastic art in there from Bioware and is a shame they let cut back on some of their ideas.
It is a pity they only end up using like one model for each race, having the range of different designs they show for each of the races would have been awesome instead of just different colour palettes for certain things.
Hopefully on next-gen hardware when they have more to work with they can be more creative.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Photolysis
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To allow them to find good candidates for creating a new reaper, so they could eventually solve the problem. The idea is that stuff like mass relay technology increases the damage, but the problem still exists and needs solving without it.
So, an imperfect solution basically.
On another note, here's a what if:
Imagine if they had run with the above, and then imagine for a second that the reapers actually came out and said to the other races that they could solve this problem with humanity's sacrifice
Potentially that would allow decisions you've made in past games to have a big impact. Get enough allies and they agree humanity deserves a chance to do things without the reapers. Piss enough people off and they stand by and tell you to fuck off and die, or actively fight you.
That could lead to interesting ramifications if you win and allow humanity to survive. What would humanity do when they have the power to destroy the reapers, and faced with a galaxy that collectively told them to go and die?
It was a stupid boss fight, but it wasn't explained in ME2 at all. If there had been a reason for the main plot of ME2 to exist, I think it would have gotten a much better reception. And perhaps if it didn't look like a Terminator.
A DLC where you find the stasis pod and we actually played a little of Javik in past as seen in those scenes would have been awesome instead of the typical fight a bunch of cerberus troops level that we did get.
Oooh, I like that.
hahaha
WrenchNinja
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Again with the vocal minority nonsense.
dragonelite
Member
failed with coloring the ending.
Compared to the total earth population.
I think the best scenario could have been something like what someone else brought up earlier. Maybe they find the crucible plans early, but realize that they utilize the mass relays and destroy them (safely) for energy. Now you get to go around galactic civilization trying to convince them to let you blow up their mass relays and effectively distorting galactic civilization in the process in order to help in the cause. Or you could choose to gain them to the war effort, forgoing the super weapon and trying to go at it with conventional means. Going at it conventionally would likely mean way more deaths and a lot more fighting. Going at it with the weapon means, again, distorting galactic civilization and convincing societies that it's a necessary procedure. Then you could find out that the last civilization that worked on the plans didn't utilize them because they valued the relays so much.
It gets into an interesting area of finding out if you're willing to destroy the very technology that everyone relies on and was given by the reapers in order to destroy them, or if they rely on the reapers so much that they'd risk losing to them in the end.
It gets into an interesting area of finding out if you're willing to destroy the very technology that everyone relies on and was given by the reapers in order to destroy them, or if they rely on the reapers so much that they'd risk losing to them in the end.
Yeah, there's no way of proving that it's in fact a vocal minority, and all indicators point otherwise. If it was simply a vocal minority, Bioware wouldn't have addressed it.