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Time to go into Gokai Stan mode.
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Mystic Theurge
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Appeals to popularity are fallacies for reason. Quite a few people here are biased. The fact that they think your analogy was sound doesn't mean anything.
Further that particular was the crux of the analogy. You were comparing Scott to a slow driver, saying that they were similar.
They're not even close.
Posts in this thread, no matter how people feel about them, have no physical effect like a slow driver would. They don't hinder. They don't block. Nothing.
A better analogy would have something comparable to what Scott's actually doing. If you guys think he's posting too much, maybe a leaking faucet. Or perhaps a buzzing fly.
I been on the Skype chat for a couple of weeks now. Scott is nowhere--nowhere--near a perfect individual. But he's not the source of all evil.
huh? So the people that say anything to him are just jealous that he is going out? Well he did say that was the reason for me and that I whine about my relationships online. Guess he doesn't.
akilshohen
Member
You're jealous Delio, admit it!!!
In my case I'm no "hater", but I am jealous (of many around here) since I don't go out in dates and stuff...I might as well be straight.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Preach. I really think my life would be quite a bit better and more fulfilling as a straighty. Shame about the whole vajayjay thing, though.
You'd just be part of forever alone girl-age. I don't know if that's an upgrade or not.
I welcome Power Ranger/Super Sentai gifs. Ah, I always wanted to be Yellow or Blue! I think Yellow had my favorite weapon (daggers?). I hated Red for being the protagonist and hated Green's gold thing. But I liked his ocarina/dagger.
When he turned to White, he became my favorite though.
Thanks for all the kind comments! I am so excited I can barely sleep! Worst is, the plane is leaving at 4pm, I'm used to taking an early flight, so sleeping during the night gets read of my anxiousness! Oh well, it's all for a good cause
Pd. I'm not afraid of flying, I'm just always scared of missing the flight. ):
When he turned to White, he became my favorite though.
Thanks for all the kind comments! I am so excited I can barely sleep! Worst is, the plane is leaving at 4pm, I'm used to taking an early flight, so sleeping during the night gets read of my anxiousness! Oh well, it's all for a good cause
Pd. I'm not afraid of flying, I'm just always scared of missing the flight. ):
runlikehell
Banned
Sounds like Pop-GAF.
Except girls are bloody crazy.
Bel Marduk
Banned
Yes, it must be that!! The only reason that people are annoyed by his posts MUST BE because they aren't going on dates. Its not the constant whining or what seems to bebragging about having unprotected sex. I'm sure most everyone here at least goes on dates. If he's your friend, then of course you will want to defend him but you're not doing him any favors by making these ridiculous assertions about the rest of us.
I don't know him IRL, I think he has a lot to learn when it comes to relationships and I think he's naive but that's not reason enough for me to berate him for the sake of it.
Whining? I must have not read the same posts. He's writing about his doubt and his soapy relationship with that guy that seems to be playing him. As far as I'm concerned, for a thread about gay and bi relationship, that is right on topic.
Like I said if you really dislike his post and his alleged whining you can just ignore him. I don't see how bashing him anytime he posts is elevating the conversation and providing useful advice on relationship, it's just petty and mean.
Unprotected sex with people you're not committed to is stupid, I think we can agree on that.
I know I'm, like, 2 pages late but...
Wow, I marvel at your ability to make everything about you. This is like the 3rd time in a month there's been over a page of this thread devoted to people criticizing/white-knighting your posting habits. I wish I had the power to pull men like that. Bravo, Queen. Bravo.
I just came. Seriously, Parn, you brought me to completion with this post.
I LIVE for the Rita Repulsa gifs. Oh, and welcome back from your self-imposed exile.
Anyway - on some level I respect you and the others who stick up for Scott. But I really think that urge to protect him is misplaced now. Something you said in your last post during one of these Midnight Scott marathons stuck out to me - something about Scott being young and inexperienced. I couldn't figure out what it was at the time so I just ignored that round of Scott-Mania. But now I've figured it out:
It's because he's not young and inexperienced. Not anymore.
Not by a long shot.
It was actually a MidnightScott post that inspired me to start posting in this thread regularly. He was having guy issues, and I thought to give some advice because he seemed so young and inexperienced to me. It was advice that, of course, went absolutely unheeded. Such is the case with Scott, after all.
And that was damn near a year ago.
Since then we've gone through herds of guys Scott likes, guys who Scott doesn't like, guys who do/don't like Scott back, and guys named Eros. We've gone from affirmations of celibacy and staunch rejection of all things slutty, to drunken and unprotected sexy club jaunts and Grindr forays. We've gone from declarations of being "forever alone" to guys crawling over each other to proudly proclaim feelings of undying, eternal, Danielle Steel-esque love and devotion to Scott in darkened hallways during work shifts. Guys who, again, are named Eros.
In short, Scott is no spring chicken. He is no white-silken virgin who needs to be made aware of the wary ways of the world. He's got plenty of experience at this point. Certainly enough experience to be making smarter choices. And I don't think anybody is doing Scott any favors by white knighting for him and jumping on the backs of people in this thread who have the conviction to tell him what he really needs to hear at this point: learn from your mistakes and stop making idiotic choices, and stop derailing the thread under the pretense of wanting advice.
Because the truth is, attention-grabbing behavior is no more popular on the internet than it is in the real world, and it is because I genuinely don't think Scott is a bad person or means any harm that I hope he soon understands this. I'd hate to see him become That Girl.
Wow, I marvel at your ability to make everything about you. This is like the 3rd time in a month there's been over a page of this thread devoted to people criticizing/white-knighting your posting habits. I wish I had the power to pull men like that. Bravo, Queen. Bravo.
I just came. Seriously, Parn, you brought me to completion with this post.
I LIVE for the Rita Repulsa gifs. Oh, and welcome back from your self-imposed exile.
My PM box misses you. That is all.
Hey! I went on a date last week! It didn't end in drunken backseat sex while my Usher mixtape played, which is how I usually prefer my first dates, but it still counts...
Anyway - on some level I respect you and the others who stick up for Scott. But I really think that urge to protect him is misplaced now. Something you said in your last post during one of these Midnight Scott marathons stuck out to me - something about Scott being young and inexperienced. I couldn't figure out what it was at the time so I just ignored that round of Scott-Mania. But now I've figured it out:
It's because he's not young and inexperienced. Not anymore.
Not by a long shot.
It was actually a MidnightScott post that inspired me to start posting in this thread regularly. He was having guy issues, and I thought to give some advice because he seemed so young and inexperienced to me. It was advice that, of course, went absolutely unheeded. Such is the case with Scott, after all.
And that was damn near a year ago.
Since then we've gone through herds of guys Scott likes, guys who Scott doesn't like, guys who do/don't like Scott back, and guys named Eros. We've gone from affirmations of celibacy and staunch rejection of all things slutty, to drunken and unprotected sexy club jaunts and Grindr forays. We've gone from declarations of being "forever alone" to guys crawling over each other to proudly proclaim feelings of undying, eternal, Danielle Steel-esque love and devotion to Scott in darkened hallways during work shifts. Guys who, again, are named Eros.
In short, Scott is no spring chicken. He is no white-silken virgin who needs to be made aware of the wary ways of the world. He's got plenty of experience at this point. Certainly enough experience to be making smarter choices. And I don't think anybody is doing Scott any favors by white knighting for him and jumping on the backs of people in this thread who have the conviction to tell him what he really needs to hear at this point: learn from your mistakes and stop making idiotic choices, and stop derailing the thread under the pretense of wanting advice.
Because the truth is, attention-grabbing behavior is no more popular on the internet than it is in the real world, and it is because I genuinely don't think Scott is a bad person or means any harm that I hope he soon understands this. I'd hate to see him become That Girl.
Hey! I went on a date last week! It didn't end in drunken backseat sex while my Usher mixtape played, which is how I usually prefer my first dates, but it still counts...
Anyway - on some level I respect you and the others who stick up for Scott. But I really think that urge to protect him is misplaced now. Something you said in your last post during one of these Midnight Scott marathons stuck out to me - something about Scott being young and inexperienced. I couldn't figure out what it was at the time so I just ignored that round of Scott-Mania. But now I've figured it out:
It's because he's not young and inexperienced. Not anymore.
Not by a long shot.
It was actually a MidnightScott post that inspired me to start posting in this thread regularly. He was having guy issues, and I thought to give some advice because he seemed so young and inexperienced to me. It was advice that, of course, went absolutely unheeded. Such is the case with Scott, after all.
And that was damn near a year ago.
Since then we've gone through herds of guys Scott likes, guys who Scott doesn't like, guys who do/don't like Scott back, and guys named Eros. We've gone from affirmations of celibacy and staunch rejection of all things slutty, to drunken and unprotected sexy club jaunts and Grindr forays. We've gone from declarations of being "forever alone" to guys crawling over each other to proudly proclaim feelings of undying, eternal, Danielle Steel-esque love and devotion to Scott in darkened hallways during work shifts. Guys who, again, are named Eros.
In short, Scott is no spring chicken. He is no white-silken virgin who needs to be made aware of the wary ways of the world. He's got plenty of experience at this point. Certainly enough experience to be making smarter choices. And I don't think anybody is doing Scott any favors by white knighting for him and jumping on the backs of people in this thread who have the conviction to tell him what he really needs to hear at this point: learn from your mistakes and stop making idiotic choices, and stop derailing the thread under the pretense of wanting advice.
Because the truth is, attention-grabbing behavior is no more popular on the internet than it is in the real world, and it is because I genuinely don't think Scott is a bad person or means any harm that I hope he soon understands this. I'd hate to see him become That Girl.
I respect your points and agree with most of them to be honest.
What I meant by young and inexperienced was referring to being gay. Seems like he came to term with it fairly recently (less than a year ago!) and when I think back on how I was when I came out and lived my life as a baby gay (ie dates, hook ups and whatnot), it took me more than a single year and a few mistake to realize what I wanted and what I should and shouldn't do anymore.
His posts are in my opinion just a reflection of his thought process. Does he post too many Facebook-status posts? Sure. I'm guessing he doesn't stop and think twice before hitting the 'submit' button for his replies. People have a right to be upset and frustrated with him, but it's still no reason to be mean in my eyes. When people just ignore all the advice you give them there's no point getting mad at them or insulting/ridiculing them. Just ignore them.
I am definitely not saying that Scott is doing everything right and that no one has the right to say otherwise. I just think constructive criticism is preferable to mockery and even if he doesn't take the advice, someone who's reading this thread might.
I was most likely being unnecessarily bitchy with my comment but that's what being a queen does to you.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Oh, you hush. At least I'd be more likely to find a pretty lady who doesn't mind settling.hateradio said:You'd just be part of forever alone girl-age. I don't know if that's an upgrade or not.
You could just as easily say "all guys are disgusting douchebags" but we know that's not the case!
Most of my friends as a kid and teen were girls, and the same is true as an adult. No matter their age - and they've ranged from younger all the way up to a few in their 60s - I can honestly say that I've rarely seen examples of the female craziness that guys like to cite as if it's some campfire horror story. Errbody gets hormonal sometimes; let's not pretend that many dudes don't have their own monthly swings, because they absolutely do, heh.
The reason I'm attracted to more femme guys is because they're often closer in personality to women, while still (obviously) possessing the physical and psychological male characteristics the big ol' queer in me finds appealing. It's a generalization, but I don't tend to enjoy being around the traditional "guy's guy" because they seem so abrasive and combative. All that posturing, oh lordy, please.
MidnightScott
Banned
My posts in here haven't been asking for advice lately. I'm just telling everyone what's up.
I'm actually supposed to hang out with Eros tonight when I get off work. But I am not going to sleep with him, I am with someone else now and I do have morals about that. Besides, I couldn't have a relationship with someone who has so many problems to deal with, it's not fair to me.
Joel is 36, he has a job in the courts, and he's a really nice guy to me. I have doubts about a relationship blossoming since we are in different places in our lives but I'm willing to give it a try and get to know him better and see where it goes. (I'm 22 and still work the same crappy job for 4 years and don't know what I want to do still)
We met, had dinner, and drank beers and just cuddled and kissed like all night last Thursday. I know that seems kind of trashy but I really did enjoy spending the night with him.
I am already planning to spend the day with Joel on Saturday so we can get to know eachother better.
I'm actually supposed to hang out with Eros tonight when I get off work. But I am not going to sleep with him, I am with someone else now and I do have morals about that. Besides, I couldn't have a relationship with someone who has so many problems to deal with, it's not fair to me.
Joel is 36, he has a job in the courts, and he's a really nice guy to me. I have doubts about a relationship blossoming since we are in different places in our lives but I'm willing to give it a try and get to know him better and see where it goes. (I'm 22 and still work the same crappy job for 4 years and don't know what I want to do still)
We met, had dinner, and drank beers and just cuddled and kissed like all night last Thursday. I know that seems kind of trashy but I really did enjoy spending the night with him.
I am already planning to spend the day with Joel on Saturday so we can get to know eachother better.
You could just as easily say "all guys are disgusting douchebags" but we know that's not the case!
Most of my friends as a kid and teen were girls, and the same is true as an adult. No matter their age - and they've ranged from younger all the way up to a few in their 60s - I can honestly say that I've rarely seen examples of the female craziness that guys like to cite as if it's some campfire horror story. Errbody gets hormonal sometimes; let's not pretend that many dudes don't have their own monthly swings, because they absolutely do, heh.
The reason I'm attracted to more femme guys is because they're often closer in personality to women, while still (obviously) possessing the physical and psychological male characteristics the big ol' queer in me finds appealing. It's a generalization, but I don't tend to enjoy being around the traditional "guy's guy" because they seem so abrasive and combative. All that posturing, oh lordy, please.
Well, I would say that guys are douchebags.
It's anecdotal, of course, but I think the craziness really comes out once you start dating them. I've had my fair share of female friends and, for the most part, they're pretty reasonable individuals (barring the obvious hormonal moments - but men likely have their share too). But once romance works its way into the picture, that's when issues start to arise.
I could just be the male version of the angry lesbian, though, and have had terrible luck with my few relationships. When I look at my friends' relationships however, I don't think the 'crazy girlfriend' stereotype is too off base.
I'm curious, though, what aspects of the "femme" you find attractive? I can't stand dudebros either, but on the whole I find that guys are generally more rational and will often defend their positions beyond the typical "Well that's just how I feel!"
DR2K
Banned
We met, had dinner, and drank beers and just cuddled and kissed like all night last Thursday. I know that seems kind of trashy but I really did enjoy spending the night with him.
I am already planning to spend the day with Joel on Saturday so we can get to know eachother better.
Older men don't do relationships, they're incapable of it. There's a reason why they're still single. Don't waste your time thinking about it. Don't have sex with him either, unless that's what you want.
WOW! Way to generalize :|
DR2K
Banned
It's a fairly accurate one.
MidnightScott
Banned
He told me he is looking for a relationship and I said I'm not ready but let's stay exclusive and just get to know eachother better.
That really is generalization but who knows, you might be right? I mean what do I know anyway.
...huh?
MidnightScott
Banned
I know that sounds dumb but I won't be having sex with anyone else is what I mean. But it's not just fuck buddies since we still wanna get to know eachother.
I would just like to apologize to everyone who has dealt with my crap for a while. I realize what I have done lately is not like me at all and I'm just trying to find some normalcy with one guy.
Not at all.
kitchenmotors
Banned
The age gap is quite high...
Well, get to know him, don't rush things : baby steps.
... Still, that's a quite important age gap... Sure, some may say that age doesn't matter, but when 2 people just aren't at the same stage of their lives, no matter how you look at it, it matters.
Even if what DR2K said made me rise my eyebrows, I can't deny he's putting his finger on something important : why is he still single at 36 ? You may want to be careful.
Well, get to know him, don't rush things : baby steps.
... Still, that's a quite important age gap... Sure, some may say that age doesn't matter, but when 2 people just aren't at the same stage of their lives, no matter how you look at it, it matters.
Even if what DR2K said made me rise my eyebrows, I can't deny he's putting his finger on something important : why is he still single at 36 ? You may want to be careful.
DR2K
Banned
Just a few years younger than my mom.
kitchenmotors
Banned
You're exactly what I stay out of the gay thread. BS up in dis bitch.
Souldriver
Member
Well, I would say that guys are douchebags.
It's anecdotal, of course, but I think the craziness really comes out once you start dating them. I've had my fair share of female friends and, for the most part, they're pretty reasonable individuals (barring the obvious hormonal moments - but men likely have their share too). But once romance works its way into the picture, that's when issues start to arise.
I could just be the male version of the angry lesbian, though, and have had terrible luck with my few relationships. When I look at my friends' relationships however, I don't think the 'crazy girlfriend' stereotype is too off base.
I'm curious, though, what aspects of the "femme" you find attractive? I can't stand dudebros either, but on the whole I find that guys are generally more rational and will often defend their positions beyond the typical "Well that's just how I feel!"
If we're talking in stereotypes here, cause let's be honest, we are... I'd say that quite a bit of gay guys have the "crazy" aspect that some women have.
About Cosmic's post. It's funny how I agree with just about everything you say: I connect far better with women, and the vast majority of my friends are women. However, even though it makes your explanation for falling for femme guys make perfect sense, I personally don't fall for overly femme guys. At least, not at first glance. After a while I get used to all the traits and don't notice them. After all, they don't define someones character. But at first glance they're ... not really a turn on for me personally.
Christ, you can't possibly believe this.
DR2K
Banned
I'm not ageist or anything, lol. I just made a generalization that is true to my experience.
Kaiser Dämmerung
Member
My monogamous relationship of nearly 8 years shits on your worthless generalizations.
How old are you?
DR2K
Banned
Just hit that 25.
Souldriver
Member
You're positively ancient. If you don't have a stable long lasting relationship by now, I despair for you as you're obviously incapable of having one.
older men (let's say for the sake of the discussion above 35) tend to think twice and thrice and 10 times before commiting to someone. In most cases they will tell you they had a over 10 years relationship that went down the crapped and don't want to suffer again or deal with the difficulties of a serioues relationship. they lose the ability to bond in the process, which then leads them to stay alone but still longing that Mr. Right that will somehow appear.
Not to make generalizations but younger guys under 30 are emotionally and physically stronger and are less afraid of suffering and they try and go for it. Older men are less prone to think like that.
in MY EXPERIENCE.. don't bash me
Not to make generalizations but younger guys under 30 are emotionally and physically stronger and are less afraid of suffering and they try and go for it. Older men are less prone to think like that.
in MY EXPERIENCE.. don't bash me
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Oh, for cryin' out loud.
Oh, I wasn't even referring specifically to dudebros or overly masculine guys (both of which are, to me, probably the least appealing types of men possible) just that my perception of these regular joes is that they're not very enjoyable to be around and I often find it hard to identify with them on many, if any, levels.
I appreciate that we're both using anecdotal approaches, since there's certainly no logic in throwing blanket judgment over any groups... So, yes, going simply on femme guys that I've known: it's their attitude and strength, sense of fun, the lightness and sarcastic way they tend to approach things (when they're downright bitchy and aggressive, that's a turn-off), how femmes tend to be somewhat needy... I love being in the position of trying to meet that challenge, heh. I have no game at all and am definitely a pushover, but these guys usually manage to make me feel more confident, self-assured, and want to always strive to be better. Other subsets of the gay community make me feel much more self-conscious and even terrible about myself.
If we get into the physical aspect, I definitely like that they're usually on the slim, lithe side of things -- BUT I'm actually not into the whole hairless twinky thing any more. You show me one of these gays with a few traditionally "manly" characteristics like a hairy chest? Holy shit, I'm in heaven.
Souldriver and I could probably get married, tbh, or at least hang out.
My ex's friends just recently got married. They're both mid thirties.
I haven't met enough gay guys to really comment on the crazy aspect. There are a couple I would consider pretty out there, but they were also theatre students. Stereotypes ho!
I'm always intrigued by the closeness of women and gay men. When I was first coming out, it was with a female friend and she helped my get through the first initial stages. I think going through that certainly brought us closer together, though we haven't talked to each for a few years now.
Personally, I don't find overt femininity attractive in a guy. I can certainly get past it, but since romantic interests are usually based on first impressions it doesn't really do anything for me.
Dudebros are pretty obnoxious. I'm a little surprised by the inclusion of regular joes since I would think their regularity would make them identifiable. But I can see what you're saying.
Yeah, anecdotes are really all you can use in these situations since the demarcation of the groups is so subjective. In my case, the really femme guys I've met are the ones that are very obnoxious and in your face about their lives and lifestyles. Now, I haven't met many, but the few I have were very self centred and had to have the attention of everyone around them. They were Gay and they had to let everyone know it.
Now, my ex would hate me for saying it, but I'd probably consider him somewhat femme though he didn't have any of those aforementioned personality quirks. On the one hand, his empathy certainly made up for my lack of emotional intelligence but then there were quite a few things that we didn't seem able to understand about each other.
I don't know much else about the other subsets of the gay community and don't know how they make me feel. I've been pretty reluctant to engage with those groups of people partly because I feel the time for that has passed.
Physically, I like my men manly too.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
I figure women like having gay friends because we're a 2-for-1 package: they want to be able to have male friends for the different perspective, but there's apparently a weird thing where a lot straight men consider themselves to be literally unable to have a female friend without also wanting to fuck them -- and I find that notion really uncomfortable and a bit sad. We don't want sex, and (assuming you're of the mindset that doesn't find being the "gay boyfriend" concept insulting or annoying) we're good for complements, insight, talkin' 'bout guys, and shopping.
The whole "regular" guy thing is a little difficult for me to put into words... I have straight male friends, I have straight-acting gay friends (a descriptive term which, in this instance, I'm using in a non-derogatory way) and I am perfectly comfortable with them, but there's never any romantic appeal there for me; if attraction happens at all, it begins and ends with the physical (and I've never been much of an objectifier). Always seems to be the case with first impressions, seeing guys in passing on the street, etc, as well. If I'm going to play armchair psychologist for a moment, this lack of appeal likely comes from the way I view myself as inadequate and a bit of a failure compared to my peers, so 20- and 30-something Joe Career intimidates the hell out of me. That said, there can definitely be exceptions to the rule, I just don't encounter them very frequently. *shrug*
Another thing about gay femininity is that there are absolutely two different "groups" of these guys: the queeny obnoxious type you mention, and then the ones that I go for, who still possess some of that personality, but are generally less flamboyant and more reserved, quiet... even vulnerable or delicate in a way. It draws out my protective, possessive nature that perhaps I'm too afraid to show around other guys.
I figure women like having gay friends because we're a 2-for-1 package: they want to be able to have male friends for the different perspective, but there's apparently a weird thing where a lot straight men consider themselves to be literally unable to have a female friend without also wanting to fuck them -- and I find that notion really uncomfortable and a bit sad. We don't want sex, and (assuming you're of the mindset that doesn't find being the "gay boyfriend" concept insulting or annoying) we're good for complements, insight, talkin' 'bout guys, and shopping.
I suppose I don't understand the appeal of speaking to a guy about shopping instead of a girl. I do think there's some merit to the 'non-threatening' aspect as I've heard that explanation a couple of times. It's what guys complaining about constant friend-zoning seem to lament a lot too.
Maybe it's that many of my female friends are incorrigible flirts, as it seems they like having male friends just to flirt with them. Which is something, I would think, they wouldn't do with the gay BFFs.
I didn't know that straight-acting could be derogatory. There's a lot of the gay culture that I just haven't been informed about. Like, there's so many different classifications for types of guys it's almost baffling.
I can understand that intimidation factor. It's not exactly what you described, but an old friend of mine is getting married soon and it's certainly made me really question what I am doing with my time being single and with little amazing career options at the present. I certainly haven't made any attempts to start a relationship because I don't have much to offer in one at present.
Well, I'll be 30 soon..so guess that I'm also incapable of doing relationships. (seeing how I've never been in one)
XD
In my case, me been "straight-acting" is apparently the reason I've always been single, and that I should be more "obvious". But then again, "obvious" to many is also bad (femme, woman-like..I rather date women first!!).
*sighs*
XD
Sadly, it is. To some "bear", "twink" are too; guess because of the attached descriptions (bear = fat, old and hairy so..eeeww!!... twink = pre-puberty, too slim, hair-less look, immature, kiddy-mind)
In my case, me been "straight-acting" is apparently the reason I've always been single, and that I should be more "obvious". But then again, "obvious" to many is also bad (femme, woman-like..I rather date women first!!).
*sighs*
Dead Prince
Banned
put the same energy you put in this thread it might work
12+ years of trying, been rejected, laughed at, left waiting, and even punched; so don't how else.
Looks, haircuts, places, clothing, age-groups, people..been there, done that.
And I barely put energy into this thread...unless "post moar pics" is. XD
DR2K
Banned
You're positively ancient. If you don't have a stable long lasting relationship by now, I despair for you as you're obviously incapable of having one.
I'm sure to 15 year olds I'm knocking on Heavens door.
Personally, 35-45 are the pinnacle years for a man, when it comes to sheer "fuck me now" hotness. So I hesitate to consider it old.
But that's just me.
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