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Game Informer May 2012 Cover revealed: Halo 4

This is where we disagree, I don't believe the initial posts were trolling.

How are people supposed to act in a cover reveal and what was the difference between what you expect and how they reacted that make the reactions piss poor?

How could you come to the conclusion that I'm lumping them all together when I've said a lot and not all fans? I've already conceded that a few can be trolls as well but most was nothing out of the ordinary for this thread.

Well I think I understand where some people were coming from- They wanted an new game announcement, and thats fair enough. But others were simply taking huge digs at the Halo franchise like they had a personal vendetta, others saying that Halo 4 will never compare to (insert great looking ps3 exclusive) etc. GI never said it was a new game, just that graphically it looked fantastic, and while we have seen much of the game I think it is a fair assessment. Halo is a big franchise, and this is Halo 4's first true information blowout, so I think the hype was fair. So no, not all post were trolling, but some definitely were.
 

TheOddOne

Member
This is where we disagree, I don't believe the initial posts were trolling.

How are people supposed to act in a cover reveal and what was the difference between what you expect and how they reacted that make the reactions piss poor?

How could you come to the conclusion that I'm lumping them all together when I've said a lot and not all fans? I've already conceded that a few can be trolls as well but most was nothing out of the ordinary for this thread.
The fact that you set yourself up for unreasonable expectations is your own fault. Nobody else is to blame but yourself. The fact that it wasn’t what you wanted, doesn’t mean it gives you free reign to ruin it for somebody who did get what they want. It is terrible and petty to deny somebody else it.

I came to the conclusion early on, because you said that the only person that was trolling said “people still play Halo”. Everybody else had valid criticism. That pretty much is a broad spectrum.

You’re still dodging my initial points in my previous posts.

Can we just get over the who was and wasnt trolling and talk about the game? Please? :(
Yeah, but I rather just get this out of the way before another thread gets this treatment.
 
The fact that you set yourself up for unreasonable expectations is your own fault. Nobody else is to blame but yourself. The fact that it wasn’t what you wanted, doesn’t mean it gives you free reign to ruin it for somebody who did get what they want. It is terrible and petty to not deny somebody else it.

I came to the conclusion early on, because you said that the only person that was trolling said “people still play Halo”. Everybody else had valid criticism. That pretty much is a broad spectrum.

You’re still dodging my initial points in my previous posts.
If someone being disappointed is ruining a thread for another then they probably have the mentality that they should be able to like and be excited for their game in peace, no negativity allowed.

I'm not talking about the criticism, how can you come to the conclusion I am calling all Halo fans childish if I've said a lot and not all. If I'm dodging something tell me.
 

JimiNutz

Banned
No disrespect to Bungie but I really think them leaving MS to persue other interests is the best thing to happen to Halo in a while.

I think had this been a Bungie Halo I'd be thinking 'same old same old', but I'm really excited to see another dev work on the franchise.
Can't wait to see/read more!
 

wwm0nkey

Member
No disrespect to Bungie but I really think them leaving MS to persue other interests is the best thing to happen to Halo in a while.

I think had this been a Bungie Halo I'd be thinking 'same old same old', but I'm really excited to see another dev work on the franchise.
Can't wait to see/read more!

Yeah Bungie leaving Halo was great for 2 reasons. We get a new passionate team to continue Halo and we get a new Bungie game too :)
 

TheOddOne

Member
If someone being disappointed is ruining a thread for another then they probably have the mentality that they should be able to like and be excited for their game in peace, no negativity allowed.
Who said no negativity was allowed? First off, being disappointed that the cover wasn't something you wanted is fine. Nobody is going to go in on that, but being petty that it should not have been Halo 4 is just wrong. That is just shitting up the thread for everyone, including those with valid complaints about the games.

I'm not talking about the criticism, how can you come to the conclusion I am calling all Halo fans childish if I've said a lot and not all. If I'm dodging something tell me.
Here:
I am baffled people are seemingly trying to rationalize the poor overly defensive posts in the thread as well, we could just say a lot of the fans acted very poorly and childish initially and move on. People just didn't like that they couldn't be excited for H4 in peace, no negativity allowed.

I don't see how knowing it was a possibility means you can't be underwhelmed by the reveal. People get hyped and disappointed all the time.

People already do that with God of War, I've been in a lot of GOW4 rumor threads, it's common.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Indeed. I hope Bungie's new game is radically different, though.

From what we know from the fired contractor its a FPS and MMO like. Though due to the several factions Bungie has on their shirts it sounds like its going to be a persistent online game rather than a real MMO.
 

Kibbles

Member
And I hope it's not a MMO.

This so much.

And since people complain about downsized gifs, here's one in full-size.

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Who said no negativity was allowed? First off, being disappointed that the cover wasn't something you wanted is fine. Nobody is going to go in on that, but being petty that it should not have been Halo 4 is just wrong. That is just shitting up the thread for everyone, including those with valid complaints about the games.


Here:

What exactly is being petty though, I'm still not sure of the type of comments you think should not be allowed.

I'm confused here, I said in that post a lot of fans, I still stand by that, I didn't lump all of the fans, big difference there.
 

TheOddOne

Member
What exactly is being petty though, I'm still not sure of the type of comments you think should not be allowed.

I'm confused here, I said in that post a lot of fans, I still stand by that, I didn't lump all of the fans, big difference there.
You really do not know what I mean by being petty? It's not wanting somebody else to have something.

I feel I have made a valid complaint and it feels like I'm repeating myself. You keep also trying to define things unneccesarily, calling out people and avoiding crucial things I have said earlier.
 
You really do not know what I mean by being petty? It's not wanting somebody else to have something.

I feel I have made a valid complaint and it feels like I'm repeating myself.
I always thought the people disappointed in the reveal were talking about themselves, not what they want to take away from Halo fans.

I've felt the same way for most of the thread.
 

TheOddOne

Member
I always thought the people disappointed in the reveal were talking about themselves, not what they want to take away from Halo fans.

I've felt the same way for most of the thread.
That's why I said earlier, people being disappointed at the cover and stating that are not wrong. The voiced their opinion and moved on. The posts complain that the cover is Halo 4 is just ugh.
 

g23

European pre-madonna
What the hell is bungie making anyway? Hell what are insomniac and respawn doing too? Lots of grade A developers working on secret stuff these days.
 

monome

Member
That's why I said earlier, people being disappointed at the cover and stating that are not wrong. The voiced their opinion and moved on. The posts complain that the cover is Halo 4 is just ugh.

cover is great.

Chief, cortana, spaceship, eery atmosphere of danger and resignation.
Chief looks great and Cirtana modelled after latina stripper.

My mjolnir is ready for a serious halo.

Hope the ennemies are fun to fight.
Civies are covered and there will probably be a selection of sentinels to fight.

Curious if there will be infected forerunners or we will fight smart forerunners.
Awesomeness of fighting motivated prometheans is beyond excite.
There id potential to offer something groundbreaking.

Imagine ennemies that retreat or look for new weopons or call reinforcements or airstrikes...
Slurrrp
 
I think I may be seeing things, but if you look to the left of Cortanas tits, where the light is shining, it looks like there may be some flood spores. Dammit, I hope they dont pull some BS saying that a lone spore stowed away on the ship....
 
Playing Halo Anniversary made me pretty depressed since it made me realise that, outside of Crysis, not only have modern FPSs failed to progress beyond the ground-work laid by this game, but have actually regressed backwards, becoming more reliant on scripted set-pieces than any creative drive in the gameplay design.

The only shooters that seem to have bucked this dull design are, like I said, Crysis, and games like Serious Sam 3, which are based on even older shooters like Doom and Quake.

Here's hoping Halo 4 gives the FPS genre a good ol' shaking up.
 

Raptomex

Member
I think I may be seeing things, but if you look to the left of Cortanas tits, where the light is shining, it looks like there may be some flood spores. Dammit, I hope they dont pull some BS saying that a lone spore stowed away on the ship....
Don't jynx it. The flood better not return. Ever.
 
Playing Halo Anniversary made me pretty depressed since it made me realise that, outside of Crysis, not only have modern FPSs failed to progress beyond the ground-work laid by this game, but have actually regressed backwards, becoming more reliant on scripted set-pieces than any creative drive in the gameplay design.

The only shooters that seem to have bucked this dull design are, like I said, Crysis, and games like Serious Sam 3, which are based on even older shooters like Doom and Quake.

Here's hoping Halo 4 gives the FPS genre a good ol' shaking up.

And other Halo games...
 
Playing Halo Anniversary made me pretty depressed since it made me realise that, outside of Crysis, not only have modern FPSs failed to progress beyond the ground-work laid by this game, but have actually regressed backwards, becoming more reliant on scripted set-pieces than any creative drive in the gameplay design.

The only shooters that seem to have bucked this dull design are, like I said, Crysis, and games like Serious Sam 3, which are based on even older shooters like Doom and Quake.

And BioShock, although that's also building on older games.
 
Out of curiosity, why did the digital copy of the last Game Informer go out so early? From what I recall, details hit the web the same day the cover was revealed.
 
It wouldn't be a numbered Halo game without a shitty Flood level, bro. Frankie has said so himself.

It's tradition.

I dont care just give them new design and make them smarter.
Man i really want to see those screenshots and see what kenneth scott has done to Halo enemy designs.
 

DarkChild

Banned
I dont care just give them new design and make them smarter.
Man i really want to see those screenshots and see what kenneth scott has done to Halo enemy designs.
Thats what I want to see to. I want a bit more mature enemies, bit less pink and beefier sound. 2 out of 3 for now...
 
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