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Legend of Korra |OT| - Saturday Mornings Just Got Better

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Violet_0

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You're going to do a spit take when their next show is produced by HBO.

"Avatar: The Legend of Sexposition"

I ... uh

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BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
I sometimes wonder if Aang could have survived the Firebender attack if he'd stayed. It is always possible that he simply would have gone into his Avatar state and fended them off, right?

Remember that the firebenders attacked at the height of their power with the strength of Sozin's Comet. Aang would only have mastered airbending at that time, nothing else. An uncontrolled Avatar State, while strong, was not invincible. If Aang died while in it, well.. Crossroads and stuff.

Katara addressed this in The Storm (one of my favorites):
Aang: The fisherman was right! I did turn my back on the world.
Katara: You're being too hard on yourself. Even if you did run away, I think it was meant to be. If you had stayed you would have been killed along with all the other airbenders.
Aang: You don't know that.
Katara: I know it's meant to be this way. The world needs you now. You give people hope.
 

Mumei

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Remember that the firebenders attacked at the height of their power with the strength of Sozin's Comet. Aang would only have mastered airbending at that time, nothing else. An uncontrolled Avatar State, while strong, was not invincible. If Aang died while in it, well.. Crossroads and stuff.

Katara addressed this in The Storm (one of my favorites):

Oh, I remember all that. The Storm is one of the best episodes in the first season, after all. And I know that it wasn't even close to a guarantee that he could have won, though from what we saw of the fight with Ozai, the boost from the Comet didn't appear to have been much use against the Avatar State, uncontrolled or not.

I'm not really trying to make an argument that he should have stayed or whatever; it was more just me wondering aloud what might have been.
 

BorkBork

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Oh, I remember all that. The Storm is one of the best episodes in the first season, after all. And I know that it wasn't even close to a guarantee that he could have won, though from what we saw of the fight with Ozai, the boost from the Comet didn't appear to have been much use against the Avatar State, uncontrolled or not.

I'm not really trying to make an argument that he should have stayed or whatever; it was more just me wondering aloud what might have been.

Yeah Ozai's not a good strategist, is he? I would imagine Sozin was smarter, having experienced the full power of Roku before so that he would have amassed an Comet-fueled army specifically trained to ambush and overwhelm an immature Avatar.
 

Hero

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I sometimes wonder if Aang could have survived the Firebender attack if he'd stayed. It is always possible that he simply would have gone into his Avatar state and fended them off, right?



I'm not sure. They were simply tasked with keeping her safe; he might have simply left the implementation of that up to their best judgment, and it just so happens that Katara (and given her experiences with traveling, I don't blame her) agreed with their conclusion.

Fair points on both accounts. But I do feel that that point, even an Avatar state Aang would've been overwhelmed. He almost died due to Azula so I think an army of comet-powered firebenders would've eventually taken advantage of an opening or fought him to exhaustion.

Katara definitely could've changed her stance based on her own experiences. In fact, with how she knew Korra was going to leave in the first episode it makes more sense that she felt Korra should be protected until the time was right to go out on her own.
 
Wow, great job! I feel like..I've seen your work before somewhere though..

Your work seems... familiar. Am I following you on tumblr or da and I don't know it?
You tell me. I used to do lots of avatar stuff back in the day.
The shame!
http://empty-smile.deviantart.com/
I don't use tumblr. I was a semi-regular on the avatar-spirit forums back in the post season 2 - season 3 times.

I wish it was saturday. : (
 
Remember that the firebenders attacked at the height of their power with the strength of Sozin's Comet. Aang would only have mastered airbending at that time, nothing else. An uncontrolled Avatar State, while strong, was not invincible. If Aang died while in it, well.. Crossroads and stuff.

Katara addressed this in The Storm (one of my favorites):

Aww, I wanted to say that. But speaking of which, I just realized that Gyatso must have been a total badass to take down so many Comet powerd firebenders on his own before dying.
 

Scirrocco

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So watching the episode again on Nick.com, and i had a thought/speculation/crazy theory about Amon.


Amon says the spirits chose him, and thats why he can anti-bend. But what if it wasn't spirits plural, but one spirit who told him this, and taught him the skill. One in particular who's troubled the avatar before.

What if the reason Amon wears a mask is to hide the fact he has no face?

Perhaps like Iroh, he walked the spirit world looking for answers and ran into Koh. Or perhaps Koh came to him, and told him that he was chosen to destroy bending.

As one of the oldest spirits in existence, Koh would easily know how to spirit bend. Maybe he lied to Amon, maybe Amon's lying himself to give himself morecredibility.

Just a thought. Obviously we don't know nearly enough yet to say for sure.
 

BorkBork

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How sad were Gyatso's last days? Losing Aang and not knowing his fate, having the Fire Nation destroying his place. Just thinking about that depresses me.
 

Mumei

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How sad were Gyatso's last days? Losing Aang and not knowing his fate, having the Fire Nation destroying his place. Just thinking about that depresses me.

Yeah. It's something I didn't really think about the first couple times I watched, since I was more focused on Aang.
 
Did they say that he actually said to keep her cloistered the way she was? I remember the line about Avatar Aang having tasked the Order to keep her safe, but maybe he didn't mean it like that?

I'd have to rewatch to be sure.

I will more go with him telling them to protect her and the White Lotus went in hard on that promise.

I'm sure it was out of good intentions. He probably felt that he didn't have enough time to finish his work in Republic City and wanted to get the Avatar up to speed ASAP. He would also value security and dedicated training for Korra so that she wouldn't have to go through what he did, and be thrown right into a chaotic and unbalanced situation. He couldn't have known that Korra would pretty much be his exact opposite in temperament.

I'm not thinking about her temperament though since he wouldn't know something like that but its just weird that instead of going around and experiencing a bit the world like he did it went to the other side of the spectrum instead.


Considering how he chafed against the more strict Airbending masters during his childhood, how he saved the world his own way despite the pressure from previous Avatars, and what Yangchen told him about the reason the avatar is human; I doubt he specifically meant for her to grow up so sheltered.

Yea given how he was its just kinda weird that his successor would be so cobbled up and Katara there made it more confusing since she was with Aang during his adventure.

Possible explanation:

Originally, the Avatar was trained by their respective nations, not the white Lotus. Unfortunately, Sozin used this to his advantage and wiped out all of the Air Nomads. By having the Avatar be trained by a third party, no one would have a reason to wage genocide just to kill the avatar. As well, the Avatar would not be able to disappear for a hundred years and let the world fall into chaos.

I see Aang sort of getting a lot of criticism in this thread for this, and in part, I agree. Korra was far too sheltered. But there does seem to be logic behind it.

Going by Roku's training they will ago to the actual nations to train each element but the first place will normally be their own since they have learn their element first.

It seems he tried to not let her fall in the possible pitfalls he ended up in but it made her sheltered instead.

At least with her being this way her experience should be interesting to see and it will be another thing that separates her from Aang and the other Avatars

So watching the episode again on Nick.com, and i had a thought/speculation/crazy theory about Amon.


Amon says the spirits chose him, and thats why he can anti-bend. But what if it wasn't spirits plural, but one spirit who told him this, and taught him the skill. One in particular who's troubled the avatar before.

What if the reason Amon wears a mask is to hide the fact he has no face?

Perhaps like Iroh, he walked the spirit world looking for answers and ran into Koh. Or perhaps Koh came to him, and told him that he was chosen to destroy bending.

As one of the oldest spirits in existence, Koh would easily know how to spirit bend. Maybe he lied to Amon, maybe Amon's lying himself to give himself morecredibility.

Just a thought. Obviously we don't know nearly enough yet to say for sure.

Nice to see the
Koh theory
getting more steam :)

Aang did refer to him as the greatest airbender in the world!

And its really likely he had to forsake the "not take a life" mantra given what was happening to his people.

Its unfortunate Aang couldn't meet him again somehow
 
Amon working for
Koh
(why are we spoiling this?) sounds like an awesome idea, but
he couldn't have had his face stolen, because unlike that monkey in the spirit world, Amon still has eyes. Oh, and he isn't dead. He may still be working for Koh, but he's wearing the mask for a completely different reason.
 
Anybody else see the supposed leaked picture of who Amon is? If not tread lightly around the internet...

Yeah my friend mentioned a HUGE season 1 ruining spoiler circulating the internet. I'm officially done looking at tumblr, and I swear to god I'm going to be massively upset if someone posts it in this thread without spoiler tags.
 

marrec

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Yeah my friend mentioned a HUGE season 1 ruining spoiler circulating the internet. I'm officially done looking at tumblr, and I swear to god I'm going to be massively upset if someone posts it in this thread without spoiler tags.

I will petition for that to be a bannable offense.

Maybe Wiseblade can update the OP with a Spoiler policy?
 
Amon working for
Koh
(why are we spoiling this?) sounds like an awesome idea, but
he couldn't have had his face stolen, because unlike that monkey in the spirit world, Amon still has eyes. Oh, and he isn't dead. He may still be working for Koh, but he's wearing the mask for a completely different reason.

Koh's power is to see your face if you show emotion. Maybe Amon is working with him, but doesn't totally trust him.

This is just A:TLA info and speculation, not a spoiler^
 

Maffis

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I think i just found the image but I don't know who it's supposed to be. Could anyone tell me please?

I am not sure I found the right one either, but my guess it is about
Amon wearing a mask because the spirit Koh has stolen his face and they're now working together to destroy the Avatar and bending in general.
 
I am not sure I found the right one either, but my guess it is about
Amon wearing a mask because the spirit Koh has stolen his face and they're now working together to destroy the Avatar and bending in general.

Except that doesn't work because,
if his face was stolen he wouldn't have eyes.
 

Scirrocco

Member
Amon working for
Koh
(why are we spoiling this?) sounds like an awesome idea, but
he couldn't have had his face stolen, because unlike that monkey in the spirit world, Amon still has eyes. Oh, and he isn't dead. He may still be working for Koh, but he's wearing the mask for a completely different reason.

Yeah i noticed this just today while watching it On Demand. They're very hard to see but in a few scenes they are definitely visible. Unless its an animation flub (unlikley), that spoils that theory. Still, i think its a safe bet the mask is hiding more then burn scars. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

We were spoiling it in case we were right. Some people avoid speculation just because it can spoil things unintentionally.
 

ckohler

Member
I betting Amon is wearing his mask to hide his true identity. His face being burned off is just a cover he's using in case people get suspicious.
 

Omikaru

Member
I've seen the pic. It's not fake, but... well... I won't elaborate in this post. I may make another one that's strictly mega spoilers, so people don't accidentally quote it when replying to what I've made below.

On another topic (episode 3 spoilers only),
I've changed my opinion on the Koh theory. The idea is neat, but Amon has eyes. And unless he has fake eyes under the mask (lol) then he's not had his face stolen. My guess is it's either chi blocking (which seems to be the popular and most straightforward theory right now) or he has indeed been contacted by the spirits, just not had his face stolen. Both seem feasible, I guess, and we won't know either way until Amon either fesses up (unlikely) or Korra makes her first trip into the spirit world. But I think that part of her development as Avatar will be saved for Book Two...

As for spoilers in general, I'm all for a spoiler policy added to the OP.

My two cents on how it should be:

- All media from non-aired episodes (officially released or otherwise), whether that be pictures or clips, should only be linked to with a bolded spoiler warning. If the actual URL has spoilers in it, just hide it behind some text, like so.
- As for text spoilers, obviously use the spoiler tags, but be sure to state outside of the spoiler tags, as vaguely as possible, what the spoiler is about. Eg: Episode 3 spoilers:
Amon can firebend?!?
Or: Here's a spoiler from that leaked pic:
Korra and Bolin kiss! LOLz to you shippers!
(in both cases, I've not actually used real spoilers).

I'd comment on when you can post unmarked spoilers (say, after an episode has aired), but I don't know what the GAF standard practice is. Is there a spoiler tag policy for a day or two after an episode has first aired, so people who recorded on their DVR or need to wait for an iTunes download (like myself) can catch up, or is it just free reign once it's officially out there?

Clip from the next episode. Very spoilerish.
Anyone got a YouTube link for this yet?
 

jdogmoney

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(in both cases, I've not actually used real spoilers).

or HAVE you?!?!

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I like the spoiler policy of the Doctor Who thread: if it has aired, it's fair game, if it's unaired material (or speculation heavily based upon unaired material), tag that nonsense.
 

Omikaru

Member
Leaked pic-related spoilers in this post. Just move on if you don't want to see them. I can't stress this enough...

Be careful when quoting this post, for obvious spoiler reasons. :)

Light spoilers about the leaked picture (but not identifying who is in the picture -- I promise): I don't think it's fake, but it's
probably not meant to be taken literally. My guess: a nightmare of some sort -- the person depicted behind the mask is absolutely not who Amon actually is.

Mega spoiler warning about the leaked picture (this one is definitely, positively on who is in the picture -- you've been warned):
If it is indeed Aang, then how can there be two Avatars alive at once? But who else could it be if it's not a nightmare? Aang and Katara's two other children -- Kya and Bumi -- were a waterbender and non-bender respectively (not to mention Kya is female, and Bumi has more tanned skin, like Southern Water Tribe people). Neither of them would have airbender tattoos unless they were for show (which seems silly), so I'm going with nightmare. Either Korra's nightmare, or Tenzin's. Probably Korra's.

I have a link to the picture too, but I'm not posting it in case people aren't cool with that. If a mod or general consensus seems to think it's okay, I'll edit a link into this post, otherwise I'm happy to PM a link to anyone who can't find it.

Be careful when quoting this post, for obvious spoiler reasons. :)
 

Glasswork

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Leaked pic-related spoilers in this post. Just move on if you don't want to see them. I can't stress this enough...

Be careful when quoting this post, for obvious spoiler reasons. :)

Light spoilers about the leaked picture (but not identifying who is in the picture -- I promise): I don't think it's fake, but it's
probably not meant to be taken literally. My guess: a nightmare of some sort -- the person depicted behind the mask is absolutely not who Amon actually is.

Mega spoiler warning about the leaked picture (this one is definitely, positively on who is in the picture -- you've been warned):
If it is indeed Aang, then how can there be two Avatars alive at once? But who else could it be if it's not a nightmare? Aang and Katara's two other children -- Kya and Bumi -- were a waterbender and non-bender respectively (not to mention Kya is female, and Bumi has more tanned skin, like Southern Water Tribe people). Neither of them would have airbender tattoos unless they were for show (which seems silly), so I'm going with nightmare. Either Korra's nightmare, or Tenzin's. Probably Korra's.

I have a link to the picture too, but I'm not posting it in case people aren't cool with that. If a mod or general consensus seems to think it's okay, I'll edit a link into this post, otherwise I'm happy to PM a link to anyone who can't find it.

Be careful when quoting this post, for obvious spoiler reasons. :)

LEAKED-PIC SPOILERS

I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right picture, but the one I found has Arabic text below that says انا ابوك written from left to right for some reason (Arabic is written right to left), which means 'I am your father', if it's a nightmare it's Tenzin's.

PS: Are people comfortable with us discussing this here or should we stop? I'm not sure on the rules
 
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