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The Dark Knight Rises (Batman 3) - No Riddler

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DMczaf said:
Yeah, because the Broccolis only hire the best directors and writers for Bond movies

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DM stop laying such burns on Solo, cannot hold back my laughter at work.
 
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Veidt

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Solo said:
So I heard Whedon is better than Nolan. What say you, GAF?
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Reminds me.
They totally dropped the ball on this one. Avengers has been released virtually everywhere in the world except for the US. Would have been perfect to attach the new trailer to. WB marketing is incompetent.

I don't think we should be comparing Whedon and Nolan. They're just so different.

I will tell you what though. I enjoyed Avengers, more than any other superhero flick we've had in the past. Maybe after a few repeat viewings, or when I get it on Bluray this will change. But so far. I can honestly say that I felt, for the first time ever, that the superheroes transitioned so well that it was almost a surreal experience. Its as though literally NOTHING of the original material was compromised for the adaptation.

TDKR will have to be insanely well done in order to surpass this. And I hope it does. WB are gonna have to step their game up. Should be a great summer.
 
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wetwired

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Veidt said:
Reminds me.
They totally dropped the ball on this one. Avengers has been released virtually everywhere in the world except for the US. Would have been perfect to attach the new trailer to. WB marketing is incompetent.

I don't think we should be comparing Whedon and Nolan. They're just so different.

I will tell you what though. I enjoyed Avengers, more than any other superhero flick we've had in the past. Maybe after a few repeat viewings, or when I get it on Bluray this will change. But so far. I can honestly say that I felt, for the first time ever, that the superheroes transitioned so well that it was almost a surreal experience. Its as though literally NOTHING of the original material was compromised for the adaptation.

TDKR will have to be insanely well done in order to surpass this. And I hope it does. WB are gonna have to step their game up. Should be a great summer.
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I saw it on Thursday, really enjoyed it but 2 days later I'm starting to feel it's a bit shallow and thinking it won't hold up so well on repeat viewings.

That said it is an entirely different beast than TDK, I consider avengers to be pretty much the perfect popcorn movie, I mean that as a compliment not a detriment. The Batman films though are on a completely different level though with what they're trying to achieve, they're more mature and more thrillers or crime dramas in TDKs case.

I wouldn't want the avengers to be that type of movie though, nor would I want a hypothetical justice league movie to be in the same vein as nolan's films.
 
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DMczaf

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http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/04/27/dark-knight-rises-christopher-nolans-masked-ambitions/#/8

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‘Dark Knight Rises’: Christopher Nolan’s masked ambitions

LONDON — The University of London’s stolid Senate House echoes with secrets and hidden history — it was headquarters for Britain’s propaganda and censorship department and “1984” author George Orwell used it as a model for his Ministry of Truth — so it was a fitting workplace last July for Christopher Nolan and the masked ambitions of “The Dark Knight Rises.”

“Back in Gotham, back in Chris Nolan’s city,” actor Morgan Freeman said as he stepped past barbed wire and debris used in a just-finished scene. A moment later, he added: “The only drawback is this is the last one we get to work on with him. And a lot of us won’t really get that until later. It’s not until the curtain goes down that you think, ‘Jesus, that’s the last one.’”

“The Dark Knight Rises,” which arrives in theaters July 20, is, by all accounts, the last caped crusade for star Christian Bale and Nolan’s now-familiar ensemble of Freeman, Gary Oldman and Michael Caine. They’re joined by an infusion of “Inception” cast members — Tom Hardy, Marion Cotillard and Joseph Gordon-Levitt all appeared in Nolan’s perception-bending 2010 heist film — as well as Anne Hathaway.

The plot and the production have been treated like state secrets, which speaks to Nolan’s now-notorious practice of message management as well as his yearning for old-fashioned movie mystique in an over-information age. The 41-year-old filmmaker is defiantly old school — not only did Warner Bros. fail in a push to close out the franchise with a 3-D release (as “Harry Potter” did) but here in the digital summer of 2012 the Batman movie is the only major popcorn project that was shot on film stock.

Early on in the project, while still in Los Angeles, Nolan said this film’s introduction of a masked, hulking terrorist called Bane (Hardy) and the enigmatic Selina Kyle (Hathaway) sets the stage for an “appropriate conclusion” for Bruce Wayne’s odyssey as a vigilante sent into the shadows by the childhood sight of his parents’ bodies bleeding in the street.

“Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story,” the filmmaker said of the script he co-wrote with his brother Jonathan Nolan. “And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story … unlike the comics, these things don’t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful.”

“Rises” closes the grim trilogy that opened in 2005 with “Batman Begins” and delivered a pop-culture landmark in 2009 with “The Dark Knight,” the only superhero film to win an Academy Award in an acting category and the only one to reach the billion-dollar mark in worldwide box office. The Oscar remains a bittersweet achievement (Nolan somberly accepted the posthumous award on behalf of the late Heath Ledger’s family), and the box-office total is now just part of the challenge for a veteran cast and crew that must live up to its past heroics.

Special effects supervisor Chris Corbould has had plenty of stops in his career — he’s worked on a dozen James Bond films and picked up his first Oscar for the spinning successes of “Inception” — but the intensity and duration of the Gotham City work lent it the feel of an epic quest.

“I’d say it’s probably similar to the [crew] experience they had on ‘The Lord of the Rings’ trilogy,” said Courbold. “It’s a journey we’ve all been on with Chris; [‘Batman Begins’ was] his first action film and then with the second we made one of the most successful action films of all time. And with the third we hope to make the most successful action film of all time. It’s been a mission and it is a mission.”

There was a six-month shoot that included stops in Glasgow, New York , Newark, N.J., and Pittsburgh (where the NFL’s Steelers provided their stadium and some star players to film a game-day sequence for the Gotham Rogues) and the production was badgered by curious eyes and covert cameras. The Nolans have responded by clamping down even more on every aspect of the project’s public life.

“Chris likes his secrets,” Bale said, “and he keeps an air of mystery about his scripts and his plans. And I like that. He does it for a reason and it’s worked and the people who work on his projects know that this is the way we do it.”

Every tidbit of information has been dissected and debated by fans, especially in regards to the newcomers. Entire essays have been written about the big-picture possibilities of Gotham cop John Blake (Levitt) and Miranda Tate (Cotillard) and they may actually be on the right track; again and again on the set those characters were conspicuously avoided conversation topics.

There has been great consternation too, about the voice of Hardy in preview footage — Bane has a Caribbean-tinged accent and, with his respirator mask, many fans and bloggers have said the dialogue veered into a mechanical garble. Nolan says it’s a non-issue and, last summer at Senate House, producer Emma Thomas flashed a confident smile when asked about Hardy’s work.

“Bane is a really interesting match-up for Batman just in the physical strength and brute force he brings,” Thomas said of the dark mastermind who, in the pages of DC Comics, famously broke Batman’s back in a landmark 1990s story arc. “Tom’s preparation has been amazing and he’s transformed his body and found these great approaches to the character.”

As far as superhero films, the fevered fascination surrounding “The Dark Knight Rises” can only be compared to the global curiosity that greeted Tim Burton’s 1989 “Batman,” which starred Michael Keaton as the hero and Jack Nicholson as the Joker. Adding to the intrigue, this summer also has “The Avengers” and “The Amazing Spider-Man” to add new fuel to the half-century rivalry between DC and Marvel, the superhero equivalent of Beatles vs. Stones.

Truly, though, for the Gotham City crowd the only rival that matters is their own past. Even Bale, an actor of austere intensity who has a low tolerance for Hollywood hype, said there’s been a special aura about this project since Day One.

“I remember when I first read the script, of course it was all top secret,” Bale said during a break in the shoot. “I went round by Chris’ house, was shut in the room with the script — not allowed to leave with it — and it hit me that this was the last one. What Chris couldn’t believe was how slow I read because I go back and re-read until I have it all in my mind. I was in there six or seven hours. It was dark when I came out. And I was smiling.”

– Geoff Boucher
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jey_16

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wetwired said:
I saw it on Thursday, really enjoyed it but 2 days later I'm starting to feel it's a bit shallow and thinking it won't hold up so well on repeat viewings.

That said it is an entirely different beast than TDK, I consider avengers to be pretty much the perfect popcorn movie, I mean that as a compliment not a detriment. The Batman films though are on a completely different level though with what they're trying to achieve, they're more mature and more thrillers or crime dramas in TDKs case.

I wouldn't want the avengers to be that type of movie though, nor would I want a hypothetical justice league movie to be in the same vein as nolan's films.
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Bingo.....avengers is like transformers done right and I'm surprised at the reviews it's getting. The dark knight is in a different league
 
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Nesotenso

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Veidt said:
Reminds me.
They totally dropped the ball on this one. Avengers has been released virtually everywhere in the world except for the US. Would have been perfect to attach the new trailer to. WB marketing is incompetent.

I don't think we should be comparing Whedon and Nolan. They're just so different.

I will tell you what though. I enjoyed Avengers, more than any other superhero flick we've had in the past. Maybe after a few repeat viewings, or when I get it on Bluray this will change. But so far. I can honestly say that I felt, for the first time ever, that the superheroes transitioned so well that it was almost a surreal experience. Its as though literally NOTHING of the original material was compromised for the adaptation.

TDKR will have to be insanely well done in order to surpass this. And I hope it does. WB are gonna have to step their game up. Should be a great summer.
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jey_16 said:
Bingo.....avengers is like transformers done right and I'm surprised at the reviews it's getting. The dark knight is in a different league
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What Nolan is doing with his Bat trilogy is different from what Whedon set out to do with the Avengers. Joss said that his goal was to bring a comic book to life on the big screen.

Thing is Bats is probably the best known "street level" hero DC has and you can tell different stories with him. Nolan's route was to go with a version which is grounded more in reality and can possible and be plausible in our world. That's great. Avengers sets out to do the opposite and that's great as well.

I hope the trilogy ends with a bang. But I am curious to see what potential Bat reboot will be in 3 or 4 years. The Man of Steel movie's performance will be interesting to keep an eye and I wonder if DC can go deeper into their bench.
 
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DMczaf said:
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/04/27/dark-knight-rises-christopher-nolans-masked-ambitions/#/8

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‘Dark Knight Rises’: Christopher Nolan’s masked ambitions
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“I remember when I first read the script, of course it was all top secret,” Bale said during a break in the shoot. “I went round by Chris’ house, was shut in the room with the script — not allowed to leave with it — and it hit me that this was the last one. What Chris couldn’t believe was how slow I read because I go back and re-read until I have it all in my mind. I was in there six or seven hours. It was dark when I came out. And I was smiling.”
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DMczaf said:
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It's like poetry...
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Hypnotizing.

I wonder if we'll ever get a gritty super-hero epic on the level of Nolan's Dark Knight saga after this. Avengers is obviously a much more outlandish sci-fi comic book style movie (and those movies are great for that), but I loved this... almost realistic epic of a man trying to change his city.
 
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Posted this in the BO prediction thread, it's just a wild number (overseas gross prediction by BOM). Interesting regardless.

The Dark Knight Rises: $850 million
Ice Age: Continental Drift: $740 million
The Avengers: $580 million
The Amazing Spider-Man: $570 million
Madagascar 3: $525 million
Brave: $380 million
MIB 3: $370 million
Snow White and the Huntsman: $280 million
Battleship: $270 million
G.I. Joe: Retaliation: $260 million
Prometheus: $250 million
Dark Shadows: $240 million
Rock of Ages: $230 million
The Bourne Legacy: $200 million
The Expendables 2: $180 million
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People who predicted TDKR for under 1B and Hobbit outgrossing it just started sweating a little.
 
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Dany

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They are predicting near double the BO of dark knight. That is kinda crazy. Domestic did 533 million. This shit will gross over 1 billion.
 
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Scullibundo said:
I think TDKR will crack a billion, yet still think The Hobbit is a good bet to outgross it.
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Think so too. Hobbit needs some good word of mouth, though. It obviously has plenty of time to get it. But, I thought the first half of the trailer looked like some fan made shit, second half looked better. And now all the negative shit being written about what was shown at cinemacon. Not a good start. Confident it'll turn out great in the end still.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

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Wait there's a BO prediction thread? News to me lol

I don't think $850m is too crazy. Rises has the goodwill from TDK, Nolan is a bigger name overseas because of Inception, you've got the huge expansion in overseas markets compared to 2008, and Rises will (hopefully) have a release in China whereas TDK did not.
 
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Mully

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One thing that annoys me about Nolan movies, is that after the first viewing, his films can get pretty mundane for some reason. It's like Joker's truck chase isn't cool after the 5th time watching it, but seeing Joe Pesci kill someone with a bat for the 1000th time is. I don't know what it is about his films. I love the first viewing, then I'm meh after that.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Dany M said:
Curious to see how it will do now after cinemacon, because I don't think anyone has come out saying anything positive about the hobbit footage.
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Internet reactions don't mean shit, ultimately. The Hobbit is going to crush everything worldwide. It's in a Christmas slot and is a will be playing through the holidays.
 
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CaptYamato said:
I've been telling Sculli the Hobbit won't be good. Peter Jackson got lucky on the first three films. He's going all King Kong on this one.
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Pfft...we'll see about that.

Though tbh even if the film wasn't good (but it will be) at least we'll get another god-tier ost out of it from Howard Shore.
 
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TheKaeptain

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They were alright. If they were not adapted from beloved novels people would have forgotten about them already. I don't think Jackson is a good director though.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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CaptYamato said:
I've been telling Sculli the Hobbit won't be good. Peter Jackson got lucky on the first three films. He's going all King Kong on this one.
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I have factual evidence to prove that The Hobbit is a return to form and will be amazing.

LotR trilogy Jackson:

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King Kong 'Let's get in shape' Jackson:

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Lovely Bones 'I'm healthy!' Jackson:

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The moment Jackson steps back into Middle Earth he immediately transformed back into 'Fuck this dieting shit. I got a movie to make!' Jackson:

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Fat Jackson = Master Jackson. It's hard to argue with the fats. Hobbit will be amazing.
 
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DMczaf

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I've seen King Kong, and the only things I remember from it are the scenes shown in TV Spots that flooded TV for what seemed like forever.

I still haven't seen The Lovely Bones, and I probably never will since I've never seen it even aired on TV.
 
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