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Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS (Teaser site live)
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Because it's your all-time favorite RPG series?
RPGCrazied
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Wat?
Man, this and now Kingdom Hearts 3DS game, I might have to get one at some point.
I'm not really a handheld gamer though.
Man, this and now Kingdom Hearts 3DS game, I might have to get one at some point.
I'm not really a handheld gamer though.Yes, they are. Is Catherine still their only HD game?
Edit: My point being:
I think you've got their philosophy backwards: I believe that it's not "they make a profit no matter what system they release something on", it's "they pick a system on which they believe they can make a profit". That's not quite the same thing.
But then, I might be wrong! All I really know is that the only HD game they've released is something comparatively small-scale. Evidence, but awfully limited evidence.
BlazingDarkness
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We european are fucked by nintendo
To be fair, Ghostlight have gotten a lot better about bringing SMT games over here since then.
Wat?
Man, this and now Kingdom Hearts 3DS game, I might have to get one at some point.
It's funny, I used to be all disappointed when [insert favourite series] was going the handheld-route because somehow it felt like I had to justify this console in my living room or something. But then I got over it because there were just so many awesome games on handhelds to play, that I totally forgot I was waiting for [insert big ass budget game expected on console], and found out the pick-up-a-handheld way of gaming suits every genre, from light on-the-go games that you can play on a busride to lengthy RPG's that require 100% of your attention.
In the end, I think everybody can adapt to handhelds. You don't have to go anywhere to justify playing on your handheld. The games are just as awesome when you play them on your couch
Portugeezer
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Unfortunately. Japanese ad means we will wait 2 years if we get it at all.
I think they were trying to do the casualgame thing back then:
Which is pretty funny becasue they started out doing Megatengames.
I think most of the reasons why the DS SMT games didn't see a release in Europe, was that the publishers knew that the SMT fanbase is going to import the games anyway. With that in mind and the DS's horrible piracy problem, a European localization wasn't particularly appealing.
However, Ghostlight is currently pretty big on SMT. They've released the PSP Personas, they've announced DS: Overclocked and even DS2 is getting a European release, even though they passed on the prequel years ago. As long as the SMT games continue to be successful for them, I doubt that we have to worry much.
Um... right, whatever you say. It's Atlus we are talking about here, it will be a nice looking game and it won't cost $50M to make.
toddhunter
Member
I actually prefer these sort of strategy/grindey type games on a hand-held. Then I can play on the couch whilst still half watching something on tv. There is a lot of down time or time you don't really have to be paying attention after all (not quite so much in SMT as things can go wrong fast, but you get what I mean).
mocolostrocolos
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Like they did with Persona 1, 2, 3P or are going to do with Overclocked and Devil Survivor 2. Or the Ps2 titles.
To be honest, it's probably best for them to try doing both. Those casual games probably get a lot of money for relatively little that can then fuel these passion projects.I think they were trying to do the casualgame thing back then:
Which is pretty funny becasue they started out doing Megatengames.
Of course, missing Strange Journey for THAT is a shame.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
With what, P3P and Innocent Sin? Digital Survivor announcements are nice but they don't mean much until the games are actually out.
we.are.the.armada
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Yeah, I totally agree here. The 3DS is pretty much perfect for a traditional SMT style game - two screens work well with statistical combat and mapping. iOS could work well too with a split screen presentation.
Being able to have the TV on while playing P3P and Tactics Ogre really helped me grind thru those games.
Augemitbutter
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atlus is really good at shoving those old models down our throats. this will probably open the doors for another generation of old kaneko models.
P5 will be all soejima worst case, so no HD kaneko for a while.
P5 will be all soejima worst case, so no HD kaneko for a while.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Fair point, it doesn't make the extended wait for them any better though
The whole situation just frustrates me, if they released for 3DS/Vita (like for instance, the 999 sequel) then it wouldn't be a problem, I could just import it - but now I'll probably just lose interest in it after everyone has already played it and moved on
toddhunter
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Yep. Importing a console and games is really the only way to go. You may have to wait an extra 5 days or so to get a game (at a lower price to boot), but that is hardly a big deal when the alternative is often never.
mocolostrocolos
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I think that DS was the perfect platform for Strange Journey.
It pains me to say this - a lot - but does this boil down to "The 3DS region lock is beneficial to Ghostlight"? I mean, I don't like the lock, but I do like Ghostlight, and think they deserve to do well...
I'm not sure if that game was the reason, but let's be honest here, how big is the MegaTen-fanbase in the west actually that make it worthwile for a small publisher with almost no budget to do games like Strange Journey? I think it is pretty risky.
mocolostrocolos
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I have bought almost every SMT game that GL has brought to EU, so I think it sure benefits them.
There's also chances of SE bringin it as they did with P4.
I do not think the fact they're only announced disqualifies them. Not to forget DDS on PSN.
Ghostlight really needs to properly partner up with Atlus. If they can get the European release around the same time as the NA release then all would be well. I simply don't have the patience to wait 6-12 months for them to release a European version while the rest of GAF already gets to enjoy the game.
archnemesis
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Why would you exclude remakes and non-RPGs? It's pretty clear that Atlus will continue to publish their games on multiple platforms, like they always have.
Just imagine the meltdown if Persona 5 was announced for a Nintendo-system... if these Megaten-games prove to sell well on Nintendo-systems it may even be a serious option for Atlus....
we.are.the.armada
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I want 3DS XL now
I guess I have plenty of time to wait for an announcement on NA release so no point rushing out to buy the 3DS anytime soon.I was playing FFIV DS on my DSXL last night and dat screen. 3DS XL...
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I'm not saying that it shouldn't count for anything, just that it's better to wait for your eggs to hatch before you consider the amount of chickens in your possession.
Maybe, but there is no denying they have gotten better. Not just with SMT but with RPGs in general.
The suggestion was that Atlus were letting their RPG fanbase down by jumping all over the place; their practices were being compared to Tales franchise games (I assume jcm wasn't implying that Atlus should pick a single platform for their *entire* output, after all!); hence why I was highlighting why I felt that maybe their RPG fanbase *were* catered to by a single platform (or, to be fair, platform family) and had been for a fair while.
It's fair to point out, though, that the PSP/Vita have had significant love on the remake side of things, and that might possibly hold true for a new Persona in the future; we'll have to wait and see on that front.
Another question to ask yourself is: in what capacity are you fucked with regards to accessing the e-shop and other online services if you decide to go the route of the US 3DS when living in Europe?Well, time to get a 3ds then... Only quest is the region then, can I rely on ghostlight???
Why would it not be released outside Japan? Atlus USA will undoubtedly localize it.Having a hard time getting excited or even interested in a game that might not be released outside of Japan and if it is would be a year or more away.
There's no way in hell that Atlus won't publish the game in the US.Having a hard time getting excited or even interested in a game that might not be released outside of Japan and if it is would be a year or more away.
Having a hard time getting excited or even interested in a game that might not be released outside of Japan and if it is would be a year or more away.
Why do you people act like the last 15 years didn't exist at all? We've gotten every single Megaten game released since Nocturne except one; The PSP port of Devil Summoner.
We are getting this without question. It's only a matter of "When?"
Their biggest release last year was 360/ps3. This year they have p4g and p4a on two different platforms. And the psp P2 p2 stuff.
You think none of those count because they aren't new RPGs?
It's best in general I think to not let anticipation eat away at you for someting a year plus anyway.Having a hard time getting excited or even interested in a game that might not be released outside of Japan and if it is would be a year or more away.
The other part of the post is too ridiculous to take seriously. Maybe if a nightmare scenario where the 3DS collapses entirely by the end of the year, but I think we're safe now.
Surprised how many RPG fans wouldn't purchase a handheld. PSP/DS was the place for RPGS last gen, and this is just the beginning of plenty more 3DS/Vita exclusives to be announced in the future. I'm very excited for this, and it pains me to see so much negativity. Regardless of that, I will join the hate train if this looks exactly like Strange Journey... so I do sympathize for those worried about the graphics. 3DS can produce nice results, so hopefully it does looks wonderful in the end.
Surprised how many RPG fans wouldn't purchase a handheld. PSP/DS was the place for RPGS last gen, and this is just the beginning of plenty more 3DS/Vita exclusives to be announced in the future. I'm very excited for this, and it pains me to see so much negativity. Regardless of that, I will join the hate train if this looks exactly like Strange Journey... so I do sympathize for those worried about the graphics. 3DS can produce nice results, so hopefully it does looks wonderful in the end.
I love RPGs, but I never felt I could get into them as well on handhelds. Something between the posture while I'm sitting, smaller screen, worse graphics, inferior controls and the likes never let me feel an epic title was as epic as it could have been. Sure stuff like TWEWY is perfect for a handheld, but it was more art based than technical. I just can't stand playing even a great handheld RPG for more than 2 hours before either my hands hurt from holding the system or my neck from looking down, console RPGs I could put 6 or 7 hours into.
Now, I know that obviously the 3DS is capable of better graphics than past-gens, Vita as well, and the Vita is closer to a PS3 controller than ever, plus I bought a pretty sweet set of handles for it, so I'm looking forward to handheld gaming this gen more, since now both handhelds have analog(s), pretty good graphics and the likes.
I would be even more excited for this if we got one god damn console RPG from Atlus this whole gen.
Then I was confused by your original post; it sounds like you *are* advocating that they should go multiplatform or stick to a single platform for their entire output after all, rather than simply a move for the benefit of the RPG fanbase alone. Sorry!
It was the Tales comment that threw me, because you seemed to be equating the plans for a company that worked on a variety of different projects to the plans for a single RPG franchise. Wouldn't it be more correct to have referred to 'Namco' there, not 'Tales'?
Granted I don't have any experience with the series but the reason I question it coming out is do to how things currently look with the 3DS in terms of japanese games. Where they aren't even hinted at being brought over yet keep being announced and released over there. As if the publishers there are simply content with focusing only on Japan. I'd love to be wrong but just not feeling that good about the situation.