Man-is-Obsolete
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There is a preorder list that I am not sure is public yet but it has playstation all stars and Assassins Creed 3: Lady Liberty for the Vita on it.
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Playstation All Stars Battle Royale Discussion thread [Up: Leakfest #11]
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umjammerlammy
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http://shoryuken.com/2012/05/16/clo...-battle-royal-developer-as-community-manager/
Someone lure him over here asap
umjammerlammy
Banned
Ah that competitive player
I would like to ask him if he thinks its deep enough for people to want to play it for years
Or if its just a cheap party game you can't sink your teeth into
Do you really think he's going to tell you that?
Dress Up as PlayStation All-Stars for a Chance at E3 Access
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/06/01/dress-up-as-playstation-all-stars-get-into-e3/
It's motherfucking cl0ckwork in this bitch.
MaverickHunterX
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Nothing against drake, but am disappointed not to see the Sully love out there, GAF.
akachan ningen
Member
why would a community manager know something like that?
Tizoc
Member
I'm hoping they'll reveal him as a playable character in the near future.
Acquiescence
Member
Kinda torn on Sully: I want him in the game but I don't want an influx of secondary characters acting as filler in the roster while other franchises go entirely unrepresented.
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thepotatoman
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Yeah screw Sully. There really isn't room for any more than 1 character per franchise in my mind. Besides sony already has enough men that shoot guns, and honestly men who shoot guns are the least interesting type of fighter for something like this.
Napalm_Frank
Member
They could use him as alternate skin for Drake.
I wonder if they will even do skins, we've never seen a video of same characters playing, I'm thinking the colour of your marker would just change.
corporate cheerleader
Member
Sully could still appear in an ending or something, no need for him to be a playable character even though he is funny.
Byronic Hero
Member
If I am not mistaken Paul Gale said he'd be involved in Drake's special, or something. But I don't know how much we can take seriously from that guy.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Wait, are there actually people that plan on playing this game competitively and Sony actually cares about it? Well at least it would be nice to see them try to make the game balanced.
Also find it funny that guy whose job is to hype the competitive community around this game posts on the UMvC topic first.
Also find it funny that guy whose job is to hype the competitive community around this game posts on the UMvC topic first.
corporate cheerleader
Member
^ There's no place like home, I guess.
Schobeleth
Member
People never expected SSB to get competitive right? The developers were the biggest offenders of that assumption. Superbot is building this from the ground up to be both a fun, party type brawler but also be deep and competitively rewarding, so we'll see. Once the show floor is open and we see the new stuff revealed as well as new coverage, we'll get a better idea of how the mechanics of the game work.
Plus, when the Playstation Experience tour is going on in my area, I'm going to go and document everything I can after I've played All-Stars for a good while.
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thepotatoman
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Well I'm skeptical because Brawl and Melee never were very balanced and this game is so heavy on supers. Supers probably aren't the easiest things to balance while keeping them unique and true to the character considering you can't tweak the damage of it seeing as there is no damage. But hey it can only be good if they can nail the competitive aspect to it.
I just don't want to see any quarter circles or 20 hit combos online.
I just don't want to see any quarter circles or 20 hit combos online.
Schobeleth
Member
This is what my biggest worry/concern is. They need to allow KOs and ring outs via normal attacks and items, instead of shoehorning everything through the super only KO system. I understand they're trying to differentiate it from SSB, and they're trying to do something different (a non HP based system) but I just have a giant doubt that it'll work or be balanced.
I really, really hope Superbot has listened to peoples' concerns about that system and at least give you the option of having a hp/damage based system that allows KOs with normal attacks and ring outs. If the main mode is that super only KO system, that could be fun for just casual matches but when it comes down to the nitty gritty -
I'm pretty damn sure we all want a balanced, deep, rewarding but ultimately fun experience - one where we can choose how to KO our opponents.
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thepotatoman
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Well ringouts could potentially be hard to balance too unless they give each character the exact same abilities to push people around. I think I could have faith in a hp system though. Plus an hp system would still distance itself from smash bros.
Raonak
Banned
I donno, we havent tried it yet, so really don't have much to go on.
if they balance it like the FF
issidia system then It could totally work(in dissidia, you have HP and Brave. and: HP attacks and Brave attacks.
brave attacks steal your enemy's brave. they don't do any damage at all.
HP attacks tend to be harder to pull off, but then you do, the enemy will take damage proportionate to the amount of brave you had. (ie: 700 brave = 700 damage) there some other mechanics in there but thats the gyst of it.
It's a clever system that although sounds horrible on paper, works increadibyl well.)
in Battle Royale, death count would essentially be HP. AP would be brave. and Supers be the HP attacks. thats essentially what it boils down to.
having HP wouldn't really change much. the only difference being you'd die more, and kill more. (assuming supers are still 1 hit kills)
If playtesting had revealed that Super KOs were has horribly broken as you repeatedly insist that they must be, Superbot would've changed the system a long time ago.
If they're not doing enough playtesting to figure out if it actually works, or if they figured out that it didn't work and decided to keep it regardless, then that would mean they're not very good developers and this game probably won't be good anyway.
If complaining like yours could easily sway a decision they made years ago, then they probably don't have a very strong creative vision and this game probably won't be good anyway.
It's pretty egotistical of you to repeatedly imply that you, a guy who has never played the game and has had no hand in making it, know better than the people who have been making and playing the game for the past three years what's best for this game.
Why can't you give the developers the benefit of the doubt and trust that they know what they're doing with their own game? And if you can't trust their ability to make very basic and important design decisions like this, why do you think it'll be any good?
Schobeleth
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This.
Plus, going off experience, my friends and I absolutely hated the supers in SSB, so we always turned off the smash balls. I guess it's just a matter of everyone having different preferences - we can just agree to disagree KevinCow?
I have faith in them to finally provide the brawler I've been dreaming of for years, I just expected it to work more like a traditional fighter, ring outs, variety of KOs, with the added items and such. It's just hard for me to wrap my head around it.
Big Papa Husker
Member
After reading the Worst E3 Moments thread I have an idea for a character. How about Giant Enemy Crab? That would be hilarious if that thing would be the Master Hand of Sony's game.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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The game will also tell players to attack the giant enemy crab's weakpoints for massive damage.
Big Papa Husker
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That would be hilarious but I think Polygon Man really deserves the spot.
Seems his wikipage have been removed, just redirects you to Playstation now.
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thepotatoman
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Giant enemy crab sounds like a stage hazard and something about polygon man screams final boss to me.
But what really has to happen is an Echochrome stage.
But what really has to happen is an Echochrome stage.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Polygon Man as last boss, for sure.
If this game had secret/bonus bosses, Giant Enemy Crab would be a prime candidate.
If this game had secret/bonus bosses, Giant Enemy Crab would be a prime candidate.
How can you point to Smash Balls as a comparison? The mechanic was entirely different. They're an item that appears randomly, and the game wasn't designed from the start around the idea that they're the only way to kill. Final Smashes are annoying garbage because they were intentionally designed to be ridiculously overpowered and the mechanic for obtaining them is largely luck. That's nothing like this game, where Supers are a core mechanic.
And no, it's not a matter of having different preferences. You haven't played a game like this yet. You can't have a preference! You just assume you know better than the people making the game.
Look, if the game comes out and the Super KO system sucks, I'll be right next to you in complaining. I honestly thought it sounded weird at first, too. But I'm not so presumptuous as to tell the people making the game that they don't know what they're doing and beg for a more traditional health system before I've even given it a shot.
Napalm_Frank
Member
You still need standard attacks to score kills so I don't see the problem. As someone allready said the system has similarities with Dissidia where normal attacks cannot kill and that worked just fine.
DrForester
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Could not resist, sorry guys.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I actually do love the idea of supers being so core to every fight. I'm sure for a lot of the less fighty characters like sweet tooth the supers is where most of that character's roots really show. I just wonder if they could make it work for 1v1 tournaments.
very niceCould not resist, sorry guys.
Acrylic7
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lol I thought everyone was talking about Clockwork from Sly.
Byronic Hero
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If Big Daddy's there, I can only hope to god that someone like Ryu or Commander Shepherd isn't next. :/
XD hilarious
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