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[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I am so sour right now I wanted to see a new Zelda and Metroid Prime 4.Where is retro? Were people just saying lies the whole time about there was gonna be a new retro game at E3??? Or will they show some stuff off in the other events schedule for today and tomorrow?

Maybe E3 is so widespread and publicized that game companies will do stuff that will appeal to all and show more core stuff later in the day.

The only real reason I believe this E3 was so lackluster is because Nintendo is saving the stuff that we really want for next years E3 when sony and microsoft show off their new console. It would be pointless to show it off now then next year there aint shit to compete with all the wonders theres gonna be.

 

[Donnie]

Looks like Viva Pinata or LBP. Nothing that hasn't been seen.

I think it looks better than both when you see those games zoomed out in a similar landscape view. I don't think its the best looking game ever though no that wasn't why I posted the images. I posted them to show that actually the games textures are very crisp at times. I personally think they should improve some of the ground textures though, considering we're talking about a console witt 1.5-2GB of RAM.

 

[Antioch]

So, about this conf...

I'll sound like a broken record or even worse a "i told you so" douchebag but...

Nintendo is fucking lost. Everything proves it. The simple face of this Nintendo guy showing with proud and excitement the most boring demo ever, to fucking close the show... The simple fact that these 50 years old guys could think it was a good idea to showcase the console like that, proves that they don't have a fucking clue anymore. They are badly disconnected from the gaming world, they just don't know...

Actually i think, as they are lost, they are blindly following the voices they hear in this dark room, but those voices scream everything, from make things for soccer moms to i love pikmin. So do shits and things randomly, cause this is fun without any sort of direction. So you have things for fans, which won't sell the console at all, and things that clearly screams "don't buy our shitty casual console you gamers, we don't want your money"

I know Nintendo is not doomed and has a lot of money, but maybe it's as unsinkable as the titanic after all... Cause after all those years, what Nintendo fans don't realize, in their love for the company, is that Nintendo isn't even making the best games anymore. This conf is the ultimate climax of the suicide mentality they've had for some years now. How can you even tell people you're going to reach, or even reconquer gamer's heart, when you worldwide launch your console with this kind of bullshit. More casual games than Sony and Microsoft united, boring and empty talks about how you're inventing social gaming... The simple fact that the only Shige appearance was at the beginning, for the Pikmin 3 showcase, and was meant to be the "gamer"s" moment, shows how much Nintendo is clueless...

It makes me think of an old grandma who doesn't really know how to talk with youngsters and some kid tells her "tell them yoooo" and she just uses it and everyone is laughing. Actually that's concretely how it feels to see Reggie using internet memes to get some laughs.

That's it, i think the console will have some cool things, and real games are probably coming, but the fact that Nintendo can think it's possible to hype a console at E3 this way, without ANY of the Nintendo ips that would just make everyone explode in semen, just by showcasing bullshit concepts and telling everyone they're back and about games.. This is just sickening.

I know they are stuck in a corner, cause they don't have free innovations to use anymore, and they don't want to directly compete with the money burners around, but here they're just sitting on their ass and waiting for the bullets...

That was my melting down i guess.

As much as the conference sucked I think this assertion is a bit of an overreaction.

They're not lost at all. This presentation focused exclusively on the launch window and they showed sequels to games which sold over 20 million copies each, and in addition they'll release Pikmin 3 and Project P-100 for the traditional fans, joined by an exclusive Rayman. Their strategy is to sell as many systems as they can for now.

Also, the only meme Reggie mentioned was the one that originated from him anyway, so I don't know why you thought that was a bad thing.

 

[Shaheed79]

NintendoLand is a separate game? WTF. Seriously? I thought it was part of the OS on the system. How does that make any sense.

Holy cow NintendoLand is a retail game...............

I think I'm starting to believe the 2012 conspiracy. Not just from Nintendo's actions either mind you. It is the combination of E3. The huge lack of games in general for the two current leading platforms. Vita being sent to die. Nintendo putting as bout as much money and effort into WiiU as an insurance company would a stage 4 cancer patient (no offense to anyone who actually has Cancer. I totally respect that I could never understand your pain.).

All of the pieces just fit. Rich executives are getting the heaven off this planet so they aren't sinking any unnecessary resources into the future economy other than to maintain the appearance of normality. Even Iwata booked passage. They didn't even have the decency to go out with a bang for us.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

This was the best part at Nintendo's conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhLkVmIDMyM

When Reggie acknowledged that his body was ready.

 

[Raide]

Their event was clearly targeted at the Wii Sports market for the most part. They're trying to recreate the same buzz the Wii had. Their core titles don't create that kind of buzz outside of our circle. Nevertheless, the games will come, it's just disheartening to not see any of them.

The Wii Sports/Fit market it not watching E3 though. Its aimed at Gaming Journalists and Core gamers. Who else sits up past midnight to watch press events?

At least MS and Sony showed off their big games for this year. As much as Pikmin 3 is a long awaited game, its not going to shift 8+million units.

 

[Terrell]

In my head, this makes no sense. Why even have a press event if you intend to show off after the fact? Go balls deep and show off your best at the event.

The New York Times will report on the conference, the gamer press will report on the entirety of E3. Focus on what the NYT readership wants at the conference, otherwise they'll never hear of it. It's really simple. That's why Microsoft's have been so lame, they took it WAY too far in that one direction.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

What should they do? Lie?

I would accept lies as this point. Shit, I feel like I've been accepting them from Nintendo for awhile now

 

[Van Owen]

They spent way too much fucking time on an old Batman game...

 

[Skiesofwonder]

So nintendos excuse for having fuck all to show for launch is 'eh, people will buy it anyway'? That's pretty weak

I'm in no way defending Nintendo's horrible conference/support/showing/etc. But I think they are safely replicating what the Wii launched with (with a few titles here and there replaced with others) and guessing that it will produce a similar response the Wii got when it launched. I believe it will work for the Holidays but it won't sustain itself like the Wii did, and eventually will equal a 3DS-like fallout (before price-drop) around Feburary-March of next year.

Personally I think Nintendo is in a dire need of a SpaceWorld, detailing what is coming next and specifically have strong core-focused content slated for early 2013 if it doesn't want another 3DS situation (before pricedrop) in the Western Market.

 

[Sianos]

If you think nintendo has this suicide mentality going on then you're insane. I'm betting my new car that this console will push units and be well over the hump before ps4 and xbox 720 comes around. Casuals was brought in by nintendo and they have ushered in this shitty new market that sony and MS is also aiming at. But at the end of all this, why would a console tailored at casuals be suicidal? The casual angle is working for nintendo and like i said before, we all know all of the mega hitters is coming. All I am concerned about is just when.

Games are coming eventually.

Still, makes for a pretty damn boring conference. Come on Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft handed you this win on a silver platter. :|

 

[nintendoman58]

I...I can't believe this has happened.

Do you know what I was thinking in my head when E3 started for me?

Reggie was on stage, revealing Retro's game. We see a city, a regular day for the citizens. The crowd notices that the city looks very similar. Then we see a child in bed, we see him getting dressed, the crowd gasps and cheers when the boy reveals himself to be none other than Ness. The title screen pops up, revealing the game's title: "Earthbound HD". The trailer then shows the battle system, the classic humor, and at the end, we get a glimpse of a new, HD re-glorified Giygas. The crowd then goes wild.

But in the end, it was all just a simple pipe dream.

 

[MrCunningham]

It's probably been asked a zillion times before, but where can I watch a recording of the live stream?

I had to miss this conference due to work.

 

[uncleslappy]

They spent way too much fucking time on an old Batman game...

And Reggie had the nerve to try and spin it as a NEW game in the interview afterwards! They showed the ability to steer the bararang with the motion control - the same way you could do it on the PS3 you mean?

 

[Plinko]

They did NOTHING to stop the rumors and he said she said about the Wii-U being underpowered/only on-par with 360/PS3. Nothing that said, "Invest in our system as soon as possible, great stuff is coming!"

Nothing.

Damn.

Assassins Creed dev just said it's stronger in many areas but they'll only make the game technically the same as the others.

Most likely, as others have said, the devs will be the ones that have to push the power.

That's not happening.

 

[Mr.Green]

Have we become irrelevant?

 

[ari]

The difference is Nintendo had a great hook with the Wii with Wii-Sports and Wii-Fit and were able to usher in a whole new way of gaming for the general populace. Where is that hook now? You think they can just re-release the same exact hash on the Wii and expect it to move units with nothing unique? If that's the case why is the almighty Rock Band plummeting?

they're not the same. rock band doesn't have the same appeal with a lot of people then wii fit and wii sports. Look at the sells of dancing and fitness games. Skyrocketing. rock band just sucks and makes me angry for some reason.

Sing is going to sell gang busters in japan......again, i'm not sure why people is saying doom and gloom about this console already. lol not even fucking close.

 

[comedy bomb]

Remember when the speculation threads were filled with hopes that Nintendo was getting every game announced for other systems but were under NDA?

Fun times lol

 

[ecurbj]

Today's conference should have been simple: SHOW GAMES. AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. Don't fuck around too long with any one of them, just douse us with the shit. They have enough pressers and events this year that they don't need to waste time with any one game for too long. We'll get to that. Just show us everything. Get us excited, our hearts beating a bit quicker. MTV the shit out of us.

And I totally agree. I believe they were more inclined to show off the WiiU hardware. Like how it works. It seems like the majority of the conference focused on clips pertaining ONLY to the casual market.

The 'core' audience like us, did not see anything pertaining to us so I can understand all these rants in this thread right now.

The core audience will or hopefully get what they want to hear later in the year.

 

[JazzmanZ]

There really hasn't been as much hyperbole in this thread the last couple pages. In fact, your comment has been one of the most exaggerated ones.

And for what it's worth, 3DS is doing well, yes, but that's mostly because Japan is carrying it.

I'm just ticked off at all the people saying this was the worst Nintendo E3 ever, and this is coming from people who wasted 60 minutes of their lives for the 2008 one.
I don't understand where people are saying the Wii U launch doesn't have good games if anything its the best one i've seen since the Gamecube launch.

The Wii launched with a gamecube port of a Zelda game, a wario and excite series as well as a bunch of casual and 3rd party games (only one which ended up getting its own new series being the rabbids)
The 3DS launched with 2 quick to play Nintendo games, a port of Nintendogs with cats added, a port of Rayman and Super Streetfighter. That was it, you didn't even get Zelda or Mario until months later.

Meanwhile the Wii U is shaping up with Pikmin 3, a launch Mario title that sells millions, top AAA games like Batman, Mass effect and Assassins creed and even has some exclusives like Rayman Legends.

Yes this wasn't the best E3, the Wii U coulda used some more 1st party games shown for the future, but the Wii U lineup is looking great, theres probably 5 titles in it I'd like to get, compared to the 3DS where all I had to play until Zelda came along was Super street fighter IV.

 

[Sianos]

I wish people were angry and melting down so at least I'd have that to enjoy.

Dissapointment is worse than anger.

 

[Antioch]

I'm very much looking foward to Lego City Undercover.

So am I, one of the few good parts of the conference imo.

 

[Vinci]

Have we become irrelevant?

Dude, I'm a Wii lover. And I feel irrelevant after that.

And I totally agree. I believe they were more inclined to show off the WiiU hardware. Like how it works. It seems like the majority of the conference focused on clips pertaining ONLY to the casual market.

The 'core' audience like us, did not see anything pertaining to us so I can understand all these rants in this thread right now.

The core audience will or hopefully get what they want to hear later in the year.

Seriously, ask anyone on this forum: I am a Wii guy. I enjoyed the casual and core stuff on the console. I appreciated it. I loved Wii Sports Resort.
This conference blew. Period. I don't care who you are or what you like - there was nothing to enjoy at this conference beyond tidbits.

 

[Donnie]

haha, so it is just an Wii game upscaled. Seriously, all these funds, and Nintendo can't just NOT be lazy about something? *sigh*

No its a game that was original started on Wii and then redeveloped for WiiU, its clearly not just upscaled as anyone should be able to see.

Also how many PS3 or 360 launch games weren't redeveloped XBox/PS2 games?

 

[hatchx]

Ya know, as disappointed as I am by this lineup, atleast my wallet won't get raped this holiday.

If the system launches in November, how many games are you guys planning to buy?


At the end of the day, this conference was for casual gamers. Even ZombiU is an arcade-styled game with a Zombie face app.

For the casual market, Lego City Stories, Scribblenauts Unlimited, Ubi Soft Sports/Fitness stuff, Rabbids, Nintendoland, Mario, Rayman, and Wii Fit U....I can see this system selling A LOT this holiday

Spoiler

at 249.99

.

 

[AlexMeloche]

Well to me they're cause indeed they don't give a shit about gamers, but there casual strategy is pretty chaotic and bad too. So they just make everything randomly now.

It's pretty easy to find many reasons why the WiiU is not the Wii and will never have its success.

_It's more expensive
_It's more complicated
_It's not new anymore, as it's using the dead popularity of the Wii
_It has NOTHING, and i say it twice, NOTHING of the attractive power the Wii had. We're talking "OMG I CAN PLAY TENNIS WITH MY ARM" against "things, tablet yeah, like the ipad or these smart tv i guess, i can throw pictures at the screen cool"
_Nintendo was alone with nds and wii, they created the market and ruled it. Now, every function of the WiiU has a direct competitor, from Apple to Samsung to Microsoft...

Of course they are lost. Let's see what their share holders are saying tomorow lol.

Don't understimate the NSMB power to the casuals. They looooove their NSMB.

 

[3rdman]

Judging from the general response to that press conference and the Wii U, Nintendo might need to hit the panic button and do a price drop even before there is a price to drop.

Been reading that there is relatively light traffic at Nintendo's E3 booth this year, perhaps that might be a fire under their butts.

Their problems lie at the top...they've saddled themselves in with "geniuses" who are making games for themselves and a Japanese-centric audience. Zelda: SS was the last straw for me...the whole game was a chore and I couldn't even finish it. They need more than a fire in their ass, they need an enema.

 

[Plinko]

I don't think Nintendo is "lost."

I do, however, think that they have no clue what the core gaming audience actually wants. They've said for over a year now that they would court those gamers back and then gives them rehashes of old games and ZombiU. That's not going to do it.

Somebody in the higher-ups genuinely believes that is what the "core" gamers want.

 

[autobzooty]

It's like 2006 all over again, but not for the reasons you think.

Remember what happened when we all groaned and said "oh man, that conference sucked"?

SMASH BROS. HAPPENED.

Can we at least wait til the end of the day for this shit, or are we going to prove that we never learn our lessons EVER?

I think you may have forgotten that E3 2006 was actually one of the most incredible shows ever for Nintendo.

Makes sense to wait and let Smash Bros. have its own moment in that context, but this time we have a pretty lackluster showing from Nintendo. If they had something better than Pikmin 3 to show, I think they would have shown it.

 

[Struct09]

I feel like they could have avoided this conference from toppling over by including only two or three core Nintendo Wii U titles. It's weird that I liked most of what they showed, but came away feeling underwhelmed. Surely they're working on some core titles to come out in 2013, and any scrap of info on two or three of those would have had the conference sit much better with me.

Nintendo nailed the last two years for E3. It's always exciting to see them do well at the show, so hopefully they pick it back up next year.

 

[mrklaw]

Today's conference should have been simple: SHOW GAMES. AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. Don't fuck around too long with any one of them, just douse us with the shit. They have enough pressers and events this year that they don't need to waste time with any one game for too long. We'll get to that. Just show us everything. Get us excited, our hearts beating a bit quicker. MTV the shit out of us.

Two things to show.

1) Pretty pictures. Look, it's mario in gorgeous HD. We won't care if it's only slightly better than 360 - it's fucking HD mario, take my money now

2) reasons the screen is a good idea. Blitz us with concrete examples of how Nintendo will be using it.

 

[InsaneZero]

they're not the same. rock band doesn't have the same appeal with a lot of people then wii fit and wii sports. Look at the sells of dancing and fitness games. Skyrocketing. rock band just sucks and makes me angry for some reason.

Sing is going to sell gang busters in japan......again, i'm not sure why people is saying doom and gloom about this console already. lol not even fucking close.

The doom and gloom comes from the fact that the Wii collapsed at the end of its lifecycle due to the fact that third parties did not believe the Wii's target audience reflected their own, and thus ignored it in favor of the other platforms.

The focus of the Wii U today in this press conference does nothing to remedy this situation at all.

 

[Plinko]

So am I, one of the few good parts of the conference imo.

I think it'll be a great game but the screen-tearing was awful during the conference. I couldn't believe they showed the game in that state.

 

[ari]

Games are coming eventually.

Still, makes for a pretty damn boring conference. Come on Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft handed you this win on a silver platter. :|

the sad thing is, we actually expect these companies to do this....LOL. you really think that they give a shit about the e3 press conference scores? really? they are going to party and promote more shit while we moan and bitch about something they get paid to do...Not a flying fuck is given about this to them. Not even a little. Tretton can say all he wants, i read that as a fucking mock and how little our lives are to him. lol

 

[Amir0x]

Well to me they're cause indeed they don't give a shit about gamers, but there casual strategy is pretty chaotic and bad too. So they just make everything randomly now.

It's pretty easy to find many reasons why the WiiU is not the Wii and will never have its success.

_It's more expensive
_It's more complicated
_It's not new anymore, as it's using the dead popularity of the Wii
_It has NOTHING, and i say it twice, NOTHING of the attractive power the Wii had. We're talking "OMG I CAN PLAY TENNIS WITH MY ARM" against "things, tablet yeah, like the ipad or these smart tv i guess, i can throw pictures at the screen cool"
_Nintendo was alone with nds and wii, they created the market and ruled it. Now, every function of the WiiU has a direct competitor, from Apple to Samsung to Microsoft...

Of course they are lost. Let's see what their share holders are saying tomorow lol.

What is the price of Wii U? I missed that.

I mean, I personally think the Wii U will do fine, but as a gamer, I already gave up hope that Nintendo gives a shit a long time ago. The hardest of the hardcore Nintendo fan are really shamless - as long as they're getting THE LATEST ITERATION of Mario, Zelda, Metroid and occasionally Nintendo throws them a bone by reviving one of their older franchises, it doesn't matter if they have zero new ideas. They'll buy the system anyway, and suck it down when Nintendo returns to focus on their casuals and non-gamers.

As I said, Nintendo Land is almost self-parody levels of pandering. It's a party game (and we know the industry is missing more mini-game compilations), wee - hey casuals, here's your dog whistle - but it's ALSO a Nintendo Franchise Whore game, so the hardcores can look at it and SQUEEEEEEE when they see Link and their own Mii interacting in barely playable chunks of gameplay that was so shite it couldn't past standard for their own full fledged products.

It's just Nintendo. And as much as I complain, I've learned to get used to it... because I do the same thing. Look at that upscaled Wii game, Pikmin 3. It barely uses the power of Wii U. But it's Pikmin 3, and that's my dog whistle, so like a slut I buy in. Nintendo is an abusive husband.

As long as Nintendo provides a good price and some compelling pack-in software, I see no reason why Wii-U can't have a successful Holiday this year. Remember, a bunch of Wii owners will be upgrading to this, it's pretty much the only hot item line-up currently for this Christmas.

yo skies i waited until tomorrow, i guess the surprise you wanted me to see about the Wii U pad was its atrocious battery life?

*Confused.gif*

 

[guit3457]

Remember when the speculation threads were filled with hopes that Nintendo was getting every game announced for other systems but were under NDA?

Fun times lol

It's going to be amazing when they reopen the Speculation Thread in Community......

Again: When is the Round Table?

 

[Sianos]

WAIT THERE'S A NEW SCRIBBLENAUTS FUCK YES

Spoiler

oh wait it's on pc too i guess i'll buy it there

 

[EatinOlives]

The New York Times will report on the conference, the gamer press will report on the entirety of E3. Focus on what the NYT readership wants at the conference, otherwise they'll never hear of it. It's really simple. That's why Microsoft's have been so lame, they took it WAY too far in that one direction.

Many papers send a reporter to E3. You really think that if they catered solely to the hardcore the reporter would write nothing and jack off during the entirety of E3?

 

[schuelma]

I don't think Nintendo is "lost."

I do, however, think that they have no clue what the core gaming audience actually wants. They've said for over a year now that they would court those gamers back and then gives them rehashes of old games and ZombiU. That's not going to do it.

Somebody in the higher-ups genuinely believes that is what the "core" gamers want.

Yeah. Out of all the 3rd party games, they showed off Batman?!? That made zero sense. None.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I don't think Nintendo is "lost."

I do, however, think that they have no clue what the core gaming audience actually wants. They've said for over a year now that they would court those gamers back and then gives them rehashes of old games and ZombiU. That's not going to do it.

Somebody in the higher-ups genuinely believes that is what the "core" gamers want.

"How could they be disappointed, we had Animal Crossing, we had plenty of games" - Post-E3 Nintendo Conference 2008

"How could they be disappointed, we had Batman, we had Pikmin, we had another 2d Mario, NINTENDOLAND, lots of stuff" - Post-E3 Nintendo Conference 2012

 

[Maxrunner]

I don't think Nintendo is "lost."

I do, however, think that they have no clue what the core gaming audience actually wants. They've said for over a year now that they would court those gamers back and then gives them rehashes of old games and ZombiU. That's not going to do it.

Somebody in the higher-ups genuinely believes that is what the "core" gamers want.

The scene where i see Reggie being torn apart by Geoff is starting to become a deja vu....

 

[Model 500]

But where the hell was Excite Truck 2?

I guess it would've been a perfect match for the new controller.

Opportunity missed.

 

[Vinci]

Two things to show.

1) Pretty pictures. Look, it's mario in gorgeous HD. We won't care if it's only slightly better than 360 - it's fucking HD mario, take my money now

2) reasons the screen is a good idea. Blitz us with concrete examples of how Nintendo will be using it.

Honestly, yeah, that would have been better. I still would have felt frustrated by it, but hey, it would have been something remotely worthwhile. Hell, the games don't even need trailers - just show Koizumi's crew working on the next Mario for the Wii U. THAT would have been enough, just seeing it in any form. Retro working on something, even if you keep it vague. Just give us some hope that there's something impressive on the way.

 

[Starphoenix]

Only Wii U games I'm interested in:

- Pikmin 3
- New Super Mario Bros. U
- Nintendo Land
- Rayman Legends
- Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed

 

[Aaron Strife]

Uh.

There are some private videos on Nintendo's youtube E3 page.

Hype?

 

[EvilMario]

But where the hell was Excite Truck 2?

I guess it would've been a perfect match for the new controller.

Opportunity missed.

You mean Wave Race.

Uh.

There are some private videos on Nintendo's youtube E3 page.

Hype?

They stated they have unannounced 3DS games to reveal tomorrow.

 

[Eusis]

I'm kind of used to some of the most intereting stuff coming out of nowhere anyway, like it'll appear in a press release but not the presentation. I actually kind of liked what they showed, especially Pikmin and NSMBU, but I was really hoping to hear about Retro.

Uh.

There are some private videos on Nintendo's youtube E3 page.

Hype?

They have a 3DS show tomorrow, it could just be that. Though that has me pretty interested too.

 

[KevinCow]

I agree with all of your other points, but I don't think this is a fair statement. As much as I dislike it, NSMB is a huge title to have for launch, as is the casual-oriented stuff Nintendo showed. Pikmin 3 and P-100 are the bones thrown to the hardcore Nintendo fans, and Assassin's Creed III is pretty big, too. The immediate launch is not the problem. The problem, is as you stated, a failure to lay out the plan for the future. Certainly, Nintendo mentioned Together Better or whatever, but it didn't show that at all. How is it better? What software shows this? What have your major first party studios been doing?

Alright, yeah, "Launching with no games" isn't really fair. It's not absolutely horrible. I'm sure Pikmin 3 will be delightful, NSMBU looks like fun and makes huge leaps in improving the dull graphical presentation of previous NSMB games, and Nintendoland sounds like it just had an unfortunately terrible showing, but could actually be interesting.

But Nintendo's games all looked like they could easily be playable on the Wii, as they didn't look to take advantage of the graphical power and made pretty minuscule use of the controller screen, while the multiplatform games gave me no reason to buy a Wii just for them. It's not a bad launch lineup in and of itself, but it's a bad launch lineup in the context of illustrating why I should buy this new console.

Even then, I could probably forgive it if they'd showed what's coming up in the year or so after launch. Like when they revealed the Wii, they showed Metroid and Galaxy and Brawl, even though they didn't come out until a year later. Same with the Gamecube and Sunshine, Prime, Starfox Adventures, and Wind Waker. There wasn't even any of that.

It's also got the same problem that the Wii had: Everyone's waiting for the one big budget, AAA type game built from the ground up for the system that uses the controller in a way that's undeniably better than not having the controller. Zombi U probably presented the best concepts for using it, but that's not really the big budget AAA game, and we didn't even see real gameplay.


Really though, they could have made this conference significantly less bad by just reorganizing it.

- Start with NSMBU.

- Instead of having WB dudes out to talk about Arkham City, they should've just shown it in a montage of third-party games. And in that montage, they should've shown footage from the Wii U version, and how the Wiipad was being used, like the Wii U controller reveal last year.

- Put Just Dance, Wii Fit U, and Sing into one montage.

- Have a trailer for Nintendoland instead of Mr. Tutorial delivering one of the dullest stage demos ever. Just show people playing all the mini-games and highlight how the Wiipad is being used, again, like the Wii U controller reveal last year.

- End with Pikmin 3.


There you go. Still disappointing, but not nearly as terrible.

 

[Plinko]

It's going to be amazing when they reopen the Speculation Thread in Community......

Again: When is the Round Table?

Tonight, I believe at 12 AM EST.

 

[Glass Rebel]

The biggest lesson to take home is that there is a huge detachment between Nintendo and their fanbase or the gaming landscape in general. How they thought this was in any way acceptable is beyond me. Batman Arkham City, seriously?