LunaticLMD
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I'm not happy about this. As said before, nearly all the dlc was just re-hashed U2 stuff. The Fort was nice, but shade survival was terrible imo.
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Naughty Dog changes their tune on Uncharted 3's Season Pass, upcoming DLC costs extra
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What's the incentive when you already got the money?
I believe the next patch adds trophies:
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/patch_113_gameplay_fixes_part_1/
I read some sites mention it'll add 50 new trophies, I'm not sure where that number comes from but I guess they finally listened to people who complained about lack of trophies
Haha yeah
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Yea ND didn't really word it very good and it is a little misleading but honestly it's not a big deal at the end of the day. Do people not know what season passes are? You are just going to save money on DLC. That's the bundle deal. Most people buy season passes because they already planned to buy all the DLC ahead of time anyway, so might as well save some money by buying the pass. Is the Fortune Hunters Club saving you money compared to paying for all the content individually? Yes it is.
If you sign up for a season pass you are mercy of the game studio for any future additions. If you don't think the already announced content isn't worth it, don't buy it. It's not like you can't buy the DLC at all anymore. Anybody who buys a season pass based on what could be or what might be is an idiot.
If you sign up for a season pass you are mercy of the game studio for any future additions. If you don't think the already announced content isn't worth it, don't buy it. It's not like you can't buy the DLC at all anymore. Anybody who buys a season pass based on what could be or what might be is an idiot.
Palette Swap
Member
I'm starting to really like these Season Passes. Most of them are like half the price of a full game and let you realize how far from half a full game the content offered is.
I'm still of the opinion big chunks of DLC can be amazing and expansion packs are awesome but the truth of the matter is most DLC is as mediocre as it is overpriced. Vote with your wallets people and once you're done with a game, move on to the next one.
I'm still of the opinion big chunks of DLC can be amazing and expansion packs are awesome but the truth of the matter is most DLC is as mediocre as it is overpriced. Vote with your wallets people and once you're done with a game, move on to the next one.
Yep. Eight Uncharted2 maps, 1 co-op mission from Uncharted 1, 4 actually new maps. And all the skin DLC is on the disc.
The season pass for Uncharted 3 was very bad to begin with. So just because it discounts a few DLCs (which were mostly rehashed Uncharted 2 content), everything is a-okay? If anything, people will lose trust into season pass and/or Naughty Dog's support in DLC because of this.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It was a crappy decision not to suport Move. Lesser games did it with not much dev effort. I can understand them focusing on the bottom line, but to flat out ignore something that would potentially make their game better, and require little effort to do, is a wrong thing to do, still.
I'm waiting for someone to say
something something DLC pack may not be any DLC something something what's a pack something something
that's the only defense left
Thanks for the info. Thought Uncharted 3 was pretty much done so haven't been paying much attention to it recently so I'm glad they have made this move.
Yeah, unfortuate choice of words in that post when marketing's message was supposed to clear up how much content was upcoming as part of the FHC. This was the first season pass type program we've all worked on together, so there were a few fumbles like this - we shouldn't have had seemingly contradictory statements. To be fair, I keep reading it and I can only see that you're being really nit picky when the post specifically detailed the # of DLC that is covered under the FHC.
On top of that - we did post in March that the FHC program was coming to an end
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012...nal-fortune-hunters-club-dlc-coming-in-april/
So we made that explicit before the program was over.
I get wanting to call that kind of thing out, and it makes sense to want to make us accountable, but it feels a little sensational to hinge everything on one sentence that was later explained before the program was up.
On top of that - we did post in March that the FHC program was coming to an end
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012...nal-fortune-hunters-club-dlc-coming-in-april/
So we made that explicit before the program was over.
I get wanting to call that kind of thing out, and it makes sense to want to make us accountable, but it feels a little sensational to hinge everything on one sentence that was later explained before the program was up.
What else did they lie about? Sorry I don't really keep up with post game support news.
I'll give you overrated (to an extent), to some fanboys, but they are still top tier. They are also not mediocre in any way.
So you want these developers to work for free when budgets for game development are already as high as it is? I never understand how some people feel like they should get something for free without ever considering the work involved.
There are many instances where developers should not try to force support for everything under the sun. It could negatively effect the overall product.
Risk Breaker
Member
Season passes suck, same shit happened with the Gears 3 DLC, lots of maps from Gears 1 and 2, skins that were already on the disc... for 30USD.
You are DOA.
You are DOA.
Palette Swap
Member
I like how you're kind of trying to say "any upcoming DLC packs for Uncharted 3" is ambiguous and can sometimes not mean "any upcoming DLC packs for Uncharted 3".
Stoffinator
Member
This is why I never bought the season pass. All I saw was Uncharted 2 DLC I already paid for. Glad I saved my money.
It's nice that you have come in here and cleared a few things up - But at the same time why has the content making up these packs been so lackluster? People want actually meaty content worth playing to extend the life of the game not some rehashed skins and lazy maps that at best should of been free in the first place.
Honestly to me it seems like Naughty Dog have taken the goodwill they have earned from the first two Uncharted titles and gotten lazy with the DLC for the third knowing us fans will likely lap it up.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
They meant planned dlc. This new stuff is just that... NEW. Not part of the previously planned club bonuses.
The OP failing to include where they mention that the last pack was the last pack is kind of turdy. This is a new treat. Buy or not.
The OP failing to include where they mention that the last pack was the last pack is kind of turdy. This is a new treat. Buy or not.
That's the point.
Most of the "DLC" is actually content from Uncharted 1+2. Which of course means a bit of work to get it onto Uncharted 3 and add multiplayer stuff to it. But most of the work was already done - for Uncharted 1 + 2 - which people already paid for.
Thread over.
Boss Man
Member
Currently available -and- any upcoming
Where currently available was 7 packs, and any upcoming meant the 7 packs that they had just mentioned were upcoming and were part of the pass now. It makes sense, but it's very poorly worded. Whether or not it was intentional, I dunno.
Instead of upcoming, they should have just repeated what they had noted before and specifically said those 7 packs. Upcoming means things that are on their way right now, but most people probably don't read it that way.
Because we said only 14 packs will be included (initially 7 in the post from October). Requoting the whole passage yet again.
I'm not a fan of this season pass and agree that it was badly worded and was a little bit confusing but :
I hope it was only a test balloon and you change your (dlc) model for your future games.
WrenchNinja
Member
That's pretty shitty. Felt really bad after buying the season pass and seeing how it turned out. Fool and his money parted I guess, well I'm not going to buy the next DLC.
Cmon dude, that "one" sentence you point out as a "nit picky" is pretty unambiguous and the rest of the post doesn't contradict what most reasonable people would take as its meaning. And how does the link in your post address in any way people who purchased the FHC with that value in mind.
This only tells me how many packs you have announced, I don't see how it limits the deal in any way.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Unfortunately, yes. The quality of the content doesn't matter as long as the content that was promised is delivered. A map pack can consist of 1, 2 or 10 maps it doesn't matter it's all considered a "pack." Packs being a rehash from previous entries or sloppily put together DLC is the gamble you take when signing up for a season pass ahead of time.
It's not just ND that does this, all companies do this. They just want your money now as opposed to later, even if they don't get 100% of the money if you bought individually. Most people will get swept up into the hype early with the games release and just buy all the content right away. A lot of people with out the option of the season pass will buy everything for the first few weeks or month and then decided later on that they don't wanna support this game anymore and move on. Companies are just trying to sucker those impulse buyers. Season passes only benefit the consumer if they planned on buying ALL of the DLC regardless of what it is.
iNvid02
Member
just poor wording, still i've learned my lesson with season passes from la noire and saints row 3
you dont really know what you're getting or when, and therefore cant properly judge if it will be remotely good or even value for money
never again
you will do well here
you dont really know what you're getting or when, and therefore cant properly judge if it will be remotely good or even value for money
never again
you will do well here
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Naughty Bitches am cry
Delusibeta
Banned
A crying shame seeing good devs selling their soul to the DLC altar.
We clearly and explicitly messaged in March that the FHC was coming to an end after the 14 pieces of content. That's my point - nobody bothers to look at the follow-up post? And that's not even mention in the OP - that we said that program was over before it was over.
I'm pretty certain we won't be doing a season pass program again for our games. We wanted as many people to buy into the DLC maps so our MP wasn't so fragmented and we couldn't offer them for free. But there's probably a better way in the future. If not, and we do another one, at least make it as clear as what COD is able to do - you know exactly what you're getting. We've learned from this.
The point wasn't to sucker anybody into it. It was to have high numbers of people playing MP for as long as possible so it's a good experience, and it was an attempt to make our MP less fragmented by trying to get as many people as possible with as many of the maps.
Thing is, we're not in a position to just release free extra content to support that. So a discount program was devised since others were doing it and it seemed to be working. We could have relayed what content and when better, but some of that was held up by us since with the amount of work some of these things were taking, we couldn't make a solid schedule before the FHC program went active.
I still think they deserve to be paid for the maps. We don't know all the steps or work involved in creating or porting these maps from the older games. And how they are made in UC3 doesn't effect how the other poster believes all DLC maps should be free.
It mentions that the final DLC for the FGC is coming, but doesn't state anything that there would still be upcoming DLC for an additional cost not a part of it at all. That might seem obvious but the whole thing is honestly hard to follow, I always took it as once the pack ran through the 14 pieces there was no more UC3 DLC to come in general.
At the time, there were no plans for additional DLC.
My guess is - many people have learned from this.
Of course they do deserve to get paid for porting those old maps as well (if anyone wants them of course, I personally wouldn't want to play maps that I already played on in previous titles, but that's just me - better said - I wouldn't pay a dime for them - if I get them free, great - if not, well fine as well). But I wouldn't consider them worth the same as brand new original maps, because those would have been much more work.
Ken Masters
Banned
don't buy promises
Man, that's some bullshit. If I'd have bought it I'd be really pissed. There's nothing at all ambiguous about the phrase "and any upcoming dlc packs".
Naughty Dog and Atlus are my two favorites, and they've both pulled some real anti-consumer bullshit this month. Kind of depressing.
Naughty Dog and Atlus are my two favorites, and they've both pulled some real anti-consumer bullshit this month. Kind of depressing.
So are you going to add that post from March where we said the FHC was over to your OP?
This month? The FHC and the DLC programs were done when the 14th piece of DLC came out. Now there's continuing support for the game. I guess we shouldn't have looked at putting additional content out there at all anymore and just called it a wrap.
Again why is this relevant? So people missed that follow up post and the outrage is delayed till now. What does that have to do with the post made in january that extended the value of the FHC. This only matters to people who saw the March post and then went out and bought the season pass, not people who bought it earlier based on info in your Jan post
Ken Masters
Banned
that was supposed to be clever?
How would it matter to the people that bought FHC before March thinking they'd get all upcoming DLC?
It's as relevant as the first two posts.