Ugh. Wish I would have known that sooner.
What if you have multiple cards? I have a spare 4GB laying around.
As if Memory Cards already weren't fucking over the Vita so much, now there's this too?
It's almost like they're deliberately trying to fuck over the Vita themselves. They really are not catering to the consumer at all.
Have you considered they might be trying to prevent game sharing, especially with Cross-Buy springing up?
Makes sense, from the same company that allows game sharing on PS3.
They cut down on that too, significantly. 5 shares became 2.
Yep, pretty much. When I got my Vita I wanted to get Person 3 Portable and Corpse Party. If I remember correctly, together they were $70 on the Australian store and $40 on the US store. I've had a US account that I've used on my PS3 for years - guess what account I chose to use for buying PSP games on my Vita?How does any region locking help anyone? Oh right overcharging everyone outside of the US.
Or they could, you know, create an open platform and then not progressively take things away at all. Sony was not forced to do this. Hell, they weren't even forced to remove OtherOS (None of the exploits that have caused piracy on the PS3 have anything to do with Geohot's OtherOS trick - they were a USB driver exploit and a security weakness that was probably found using a NAND/NOR flasher).More than anything else, ever since Sony became internet enemy #1 somehow, I feel the lesson they're going to come out of this gen with is "we were too generous" with things like OtherOS, region free, game sharing, etc, because of that horrible little contingent of gamers that find a way to fuck it all for the rest of us.
The nuclear hot shitstorms that emerge whenever Sony does stuff like this though is due to the taking of something good away. You just dont see this fire thrown at Microsoft or Nintendo for continuing their own anti-consumer bullshit.
No, the lesson will be "do not give them anything at all from the start", and I guess as a business that makes sense.
Sad that we lose out on cool things as a result though, and people lose save files and the like.
I AM SO OUTRAGED!
No, I'm really not. I thought this thread was going to be about your system locking up because of the new firmware, but no it's just people freaking out over nothing again.
They cut down on that too, significantly. 5 shares became 2.
Another instance btw of removing/discounting features as the system ages.
I'm more interested in how effectively blocking VHBL does nothing but embolden hackers to move into actual hacking of Vita itself rather than staying siloed in the PSP emulator.
Everything Sony is doing is bad I want you to know this
This is going to effect a very small number of people, but hey it is something negative about the Vita so the thread will have thousands of comments. Sorry to those who actually have a vita and more than one account on a card.
Why not just use US account for Vita exclusively in that case (account switching was horribly inconvenient, personally I never found it useful other then a curiosity)? I mean ultimately region-locked stores are the real problem here, and everyone does That (except Steam I think).tborsje said:And what "horrible little contingent of gamers" was exploiting account switching? Me, because I didn't want to pay twice as much as people in America?
We don't get the full experience on retail anymore though. Without an account you're locked out of DLC. Also how does PSV handle updates? Is it possible to update a JP retail card with an EU account for instance?Well, it allows you to import and play carts, I assume that is the point. The digital side hasn't caught up with the physical. This is the same with all digital stores unfortunately. You're free to make a corresponding account but the fact that you can't legitimately access the content through your own marketplace and the necessity of providing fake credentials to open another account really should tip you off that you're bending (not breaking) the rules. If you're using a loophole, there's always a chance it will be closed.
I don't think you lose access. You lose data like saves from doing account swapping.I have all my PlayStation One games on my US account... I guess that's that then!
Fuck you Sony.
Yes.Just to clarify, the update doesn't "lock cards" then, right? The issue here is alt accounts losing save data without warning after updating.
Ugh. Wish I would have known that sooner.
What if you have multiple cards? I have a spare 4GB laying around.
Nobody ever seems to care about the 1% until they become the 1%. I feel for you guys.
This is just stupid, I hope they shoot themselves in the foot doing this. They obviously haven't learned from any of their previous mistakes that screwing over your customers doesn't pay off.
Essentially I lose the ability to play them unless I either want to wipe my saves every time I want to play them or purchase a second memory card for the sole purpose of playing them. Doing this without previous warning is a rather unnecessarily underhanded way of treating your consumers. Furthermore we are also inflicted to a rather awful back-up mechanic for saves because of those "concerns of piracy" which only amplifies the issue.I don't think you lose access. You lose data like saves from doing account swapping.
Like i said.Yup.
I had no intention of buying the Vita, but fuck any attempts at region locking.
Essentially I lose the ability to play them unless I either want to wipe my saves every time I want to play them or purchase a second memory card for the sole purpose of playing them. Doing this without previous warning is a rather unnecessarily underhanded way of treating your consumers. Furthermore we are also inflicted to a rather awful back-up mechanic for saves because of those "concerns of piracy" which only amplifies the issue.
Have you considered they might be trying to prevent game sharing, especially with Cross-Buy springing up?
Walled garden approach. I can imagine PS4 will be fucking fortified
The PS3 has open memory, region free, multiple accounts, game sharing... and stands as one of if not the least pirated console ever made.
Where is the lock again ?
Which makes this even more frustrating.The PS3 has open memory, region free, multiple accounts, game sharing... and stands as one of if not the least pirated console ever made.
That's besides the point. Curtailing piracy is great, but it didn't hinder consumers, or erase their saves.Hope you didn't forget at what lengths Sony went to undercut progression on the custom firmware front.
The price is fine.
Why not just use US account for Vita exclusively in that case (account switching was horribly inconvenient, personally I never found it useful other then a curiosity)? I mean ultimately region-locked stores are the real problem here, and everyone does That (except Steam I think).