If that happens they should release a disc version with both games on it.
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Jet Set Radio HD |OT| Flip The Raps, Flip The Track
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Solid warrior
Banned
Updated graphics, more polygons, better character model and animation and larger levels/scale.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJo3htBQo48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67FZWisbrDU
I'm glad that Sega released JSR HD and I hope they bring JSRF HD as well. If you play JSR HD now and hopefully play JSRF HD when it comes out, you'll instantly appreciate the graphical upgrade in the first area you play since it was the same starting area as JSR, IIRC.
I'd say the the other major visual changes included the futuristic visual design of almost everything (cars, costumes, etc.) and the muted/subdued colour palette.
Definitely more polygonal and textural detail in JSFR, and a 60fps framerate. They should port that sunnavabitch too.
sechsterangriff
Member
i hope they will. played jsrf yesterday on 360 and its such an amazing game: better controls, huge(!) levels, great soundtrack. too bad it runs like shit on 360.
Hot Coldman
Banned
But then it couldn't be included in a "Dreamcast Collection" physical release
Neither can NiGHTS into Dreams.
Dead Man Typing
Member
Finished the story mode, what an amazing trip down memory lane.
I enjoyed playing it today as much as any other title I've played this year. Pure joy. Now I'm working on the JET ratings on the non-story challenges, then I'll hit the story levels. And then maybe I'll go for the "no grabs" achievement. It can't be that hard once I've nailed down a few routes.... can it?
What a game. 360 version no technical problems at all.
As for JSRF, I'm sure it will come now. The music being in the bonus menu for this game is too much of a tease for them to not deliver.
I enjoyed playing it today as much as any other title I've played this year. Pure joy. Now I'm working on the JET ratings on the non-story challenges, then I'll hit the story levels. And then maybe I'll go for the "no grabs" achievement. It can't be that hard once I've nailed down a few routes.... can it?
What a game. 360 version no technical problems at all.
As for JSRF, I'm sure it will come now. The music being in the bonus menu for this game is too much of a tease for them to not deliver.
NuclearWinter
Member
Wallriding continues to elude me and landing on cranes is a pain in the ass. Had to land on the crane itself and SLOWLY try to get Beat to grind on it while SWAT threw smoke bombs at me.
You don't need to land on the crane to beat the level, you can just wall jump over the gap
Not sure what to suggest in regards to wall riding. The only trouble I had was the one in the tutorial (by the truck) when I first started, which was simply a case of not jumping onto the wall early enough. I'd leave it too late and then hit the wall and almost immediately fall. Jumping to the wall earlier solved that problem.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Is the PC version 60?
I really want to connect my Dreamcast pad up.
I really want to connect my Dreamcast pad up.
BruiserBear
Banned
Probably a little smaller than the console versions, which are about a gig.
It's runs at 30.
Thanks.
NuclearWinter
Member
Thanks for the response, I've picked up a copy on ebay.
I'd like to hope that they will port an HD version, but I get the feeling that sales of this one aren't going to be particularly good. Then there's the complaining in reviews about how "dated" the gameplay is (even though those people are wrong)... It doesn't seem like it's had a great reception, sadly. So I'm not sure if Sega will bother with JSRF. But I'd love to be wrong.
phosphor112
Banned
I hope so. It's my favorite of the two. I spent countless hours discovering all sorts of nooks and crannies in that game. The music is also godly as well.
not psycho
Member
The PC version is a really, really great port. I'm starting to get reliant on the camera control, don't think I can go back.
Here are a couple infinite grinds I found in Benten, couldn't find them already up on youtube. They're not nearly as consistent as some of the other ones though, like the tutorial or the sewers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJGYKAYYX4I
edit: Also found two infinite grinds in Kogane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi7BkVzYMmM
Here are a couple infinite grinds I found in Benten, couldn't find them already up on youtube. They're not nearly as consistent as some of the other ones though, like the tutorial or the sewers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJGYKAYYX4I
edit: Also found two infinite grinds in Kogane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi7BkVzYMmM
DarkLegion
Member
And it really feels like a game that could have been developed recently. Loving it.
I like JSR, but I can't agree with this.
I'm playing through it again on Steam with a 360 controller, and it really does feel like a 10 year old game. It's fun, kind of, but dated.
I'm not enjoying it anywhere near as much as I did when I was a teenager. I also couldn't get into JSRF when that was released, either.
phosphor112
Banned
Nice find.
The source of hitching must be purely crap handling of HDD I/O. Namely I've seen instances of it in 360 load-screen as well, and on my PS3 version I don't get any in-game, but I'm using a SSD Hybrid drive. Nothing a patch couldn't fix though - also camera-control - the camera collision handling is a mess on all versions(as it was in original), but on PS3 stick-camera movement sometimes gets jittery even when not touching anything.MightyHedgehog said:
The game looks quite clean on consoles, but world geometry still has lots of straight lines that don't cleanup fully with just MSAA, you need PC + supersampling. And sadly no 1080P either.
Still quite happy with the port, might triple dip if Vita version turns out good.
phosphor112
Banned
The stuttering really is annoying. Trying to get a perfect graffiti combo and then STUTTER! Makes me rage every time.
Nabs
Member
I haven't noticed this on my end.
BruiserBear
Banned
That's probably because this game was never, ever designed to be played with a keyboard. Seriously.
When I read of people playing certain games on a keyboard I get the vision of my head of someone driving a car backwards, and then wondering why the car isn't that fast.
I would recommend you delete the game and re-download it.
No hitching here.
Nabs
Member
I thought it was pretty crazy until I gave it a shot. The mouse feels pretty good with the new camera controls. It's too bad they couldn't figure out a way to handle graffiti on the keyboard.
They should have mapped spraying to mouse movements, although I imagine that would've been waaaaaay too complicated for what was probably intended to be a simple port.
I usually play with controller, but I tried playing with the keyboard, I had no problems with spraying graffiti.
For example, curved right arrow pointing up, it's just pressing s -> d -> w.
A full loop going from down -> right -> up -> left, it's just s -> d -> w -> a -> s.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Well, that's confirmed, at least. I don't have a capture card that supports HD, so you'll have to forgive the crappy S-video screenshots. I thought it was just my TV, but Jet Set Radio HD is legitimately darker than the original Dreamcast game.
Dreamcast:
JSR HD:
Dreamcast:
JSR HD:
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I'm playing on the Xbox, yeah.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe it is, but the colors still have a good amount of pop to them. It doesn't help that you were comparing one of the only indoor area's of the game.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Well, yeah - the darker colors are the biggest problem in areas like Benten-cho and the interior areas of Kogane-cho. I had my TV cranked as bright as it would go and I was still struggling to see in the darker areas of the game.
Then I put in my Dreamcast copy to do a quick comparison with some other things I was curious about and suddenly I can see where I'm going again.
Check out this image:
I found it in another site. You can clearly see that the gray scale on the 360 is cut off short. It doesn't matter how much you turn up the setting on your TV because the 360 just doesn't resolve shades of grey after a certain point. You can make your blacks appear more gray, but certain shades will still remain indistinguishable, thus obscuring details in shadows.
It's odd that MS always had a problem with gray->black detail since the original XBOX. The OG XBOX had the opposite problem though, were blacks were not black enough and the overall image in their games looked too bright and washed out.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
That's a shame. It probably doesn't help that I have my reference levels in the Xbox dashboard cranked as high as they'll go.
I wonder if any of the other graphical problems I'm experiencing on the XBLA version are present on the PC or PS3? Can anyone out there with non-XBLA versions confirm whether or not that logo in the warehouse in Kogane-cho (the one in these screenshots) looks "correct" or not? In the XBLA version, there's a texture filtering error where you can see the skybox showing through behind it, but that doesn't happen in the original Dreamcast release.
NuclearWinter
Member
The PC version has the same thing with the logo.
Emperor Bohe
Member
finally bought this today. I loved JSRF on xbox, but I barely played this one on Dreamcast back in the day. gonna give it another chance..
Potential spoiler in link, but I think I just got some custom graffiti in this game.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=99098874
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=99098874
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I totally agree with this.