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Fall 2012 Anime |OT| Meet the new world, same as the old world

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I glanced around the thread and didn't seem to see that anyone posted this yet: Funimation just listed, out of nowhere, a Blu-ray release of Panty & Stocking for December. Oh, and it has new extras that weren't on the DVD set. Best quote I've seen on the matter:
"And now Funi has ensured that anyone who wants a BD release will not purchase a DVD-only set. Good job!"

Kind of makes me afraid to get A Certain Magical Index on dvd this holiday. Though Ive been waiting for so long that I dont think I can wait anymore.
 

Firemind

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Zetsuen no Tempest - Episode 1

I have really high expectations for Ando's return to BONES, and it definitely doesn't disappoint here. His sense of direction combined with BONES' animation team provides a really stellar experience here. There's solid pacing, great use of transitions, excellent layout work, and a surprising amount of art detail for a TV series. The music is outstanding too, and the voice cast really pulls it off.

The only problem I have here is a personal one. I wish I didn't read the manga. The adaptation is faithful, but done with a lot of care and quality. But my feelings about where the source material eventually goes (which happens pretty quickly) is tempering my excitement for the rest of the series. Maybe that's a good thing, because if Ando does overcome the issues with the manga, then it will be all the more impressive for me.

This source material doesn't really deserve such a lavish adaptation, but since it's here, I guess it's a good thing that we all might have a good time with it... while it lasts. :)

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DiGiKerot

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This comment raises a number of question in my mind:

1. Is duckroll simply exaggerating?

2. Has duckroll not seen as many ugly digital anime productions I have?

3. Could the show really look that bad?

I watched a couple of seconds on AoD earlier, and it looked pretty much how duckroll described it...
 
This comment raises a number of question in my mind:

1. Is duckroll simply exaggerating?

2. Has duckroll not seen as many ugly digital anime productions I have?

3. Could the show really look that bad?

I'm betting on 2, but we'll have to wait for more people to see it. Everything I've seen suggests it won't even be close to what I've seen.
 

ponpo

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lol @ duckroll's visual kei image. K = fujoshi anime confirmed. I'll still check out episode 1 though; kind of want to see what it looks like. Chuub only good show so far??? Did robotics;notezz start yet? Fingers crossed for Jojo.
 

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lol @ duckroll's visual kei image. K = fujoshi anime confirmed. I'll still check out episode 1 though; kind of want to see what it looks like. Chuub only good show so far??? Did robotics;notezz start yet? Fingers crossed for Jojo.

Tonari is very good, SSY is decent, Chunnibyou is bottom of the barrel stuff. I haven't seen the other shoujo show yet, but I've heard good things about it.
 

Firemind

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I just think it's amusing that he's lambasting GoHands' use of filters in one post, then praising Bones' production as if there's nothing wrong with it.
 
It's funny how people hate on the blue and yellow filters, but liked the excessive purple of SSY...

I'm perfectly willing to accept your opinion as to what looks good as legitimate, although to my eyes the "purple" scenes in From the New World are soothing, especially with the soft silhouettes, not at all garish like K. But please don't misrepresent the visual style of two flashback scenes as pervasive throughout the episode, because it's not.
 
Zetsuen no Tempest 01

Really good first episode. Besides the attack of the cicadas at the start, this is a really well done adaptation that expands and successfully foreshadows stuff that will happen that generally came from left field in the manga.

The music is really nice, the action was well done, all the little touches and addition actually do something instead of time filler. It covered all of chapter one and while I actually do hope the anime covers a larger part of the manga, I'm ok if it keeps at an one chapter per episode rate.
 

BluWacky

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Busou Shinki 1

Tiny moe mecha girls do moe things while their hideously drawn high-school age "master" is at school. This week - they unpack, put on maid dresses, and then try and shoot each other because of a letter flying out the window!

The OP - and parts of the episode - have little girls flying around in CG going pew pew at each other. The episode itself has one of them squirt herself with milk before complaining that her breasts are too big to fit in a maid costume. I think you can tell if this show is going to appeal to you!

It does have a hamster, though. The hamster sees everything. I wonder if it, too, thinks that "Master" is drawn really weirdly?
 

Reknoc

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Zetsuen no Tempest 1

Really good first episode. The fight was great. Sadly all I could think of as the episode ended was all the hate the manga got and now I can't help but wonder when it'll all go down the pan :(
 

Jarmel

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Tempest 1-

Unlike every other premiere that I've seen this week, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It's extremely well done in regards to production values. I do have a qualm with how it has been directed so far and also a reservation about the source material. My issue with the directing is that the timeskips are done without fanfare and it can be rather disorienting. One scene a character is there and in the one right after that, they've been missing for a month. I had to actually wiki people's names to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding something. It's not as natural as I would have liked. Then there is the stuff about the story which is I'm not sure where the hell it's going. Are there two male leads? The show seemed to establish that Yoshino was the lead due to how much time was spent on him but the narrative seems to establish Mahiro as the lead. If both of them are leads then they really don't spend much time establishing the bromance and just kinda roll with it. I'm also being very cautious due to the fact that this is BONES.

Do we have an episode count on this? If it's longer than 1 cour then it might be interesting.
 

DiGiKerot

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It's funny how people hate on the blue and yellow filters, but liked the excessive purple of SSY...

It's not so much the blue and yellow filters, more that the exaggerated contrast and bloom (and lighting in some scenes) results in something that looks horrifically garish. I've not watched the full episode of K itself yet, but it's something I could cut a bit more slack in Mardock Scramble because it didn't seem too off from the setting of the series, but it's still pretty ugly.
 

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Tempest 1-

Unlike every other premiere that I've seen this week, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It's extremely well done in regards to production values. I do have a qualm with how it has been directed so far and also a reservation about the source material. My issue with the directing is that the timeskips are done without fanfare and it can be rather disorienting. One scene a character is there and in the one right after that, they've been missing for a month. I had to actually wiki people's names to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding something. It's not as natural as I would have liked. Then there is the stuff about the story which is I'm not sure where the hell it's going. Are there two male leads? The show seemed to establish that Yoshino was the lead due to how much time was spent on him but the narrative seems to establish Mahiro as the lead. If both of them are leads then they really don't spend much time establishing the bromance and just kinda roll with it. I'm also being very cautious due to the fact that this is BONES.

Do we have an episode count on this? If it's longer than 1 cour then it might be interesting.

I think this is kind of interesting. Do all shows really need one defined lead? Often it seems like media where the focal viewpoint is split between multiple characters with multiple perspectives is praised for doing so, since it opens up a lot more opportunities then if there is simply one protagonist. Is Zetsuen that kind of show? I'd be more excited for it if it was, rather than the simplistic "here is your shounen lead, now sit back and enjoy". It seems like you were actively looking for that in the first episode.
 

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I'm perfectly willing to accept your opinion as to what looks good as legitimate, although to my eyes the "purple" scenes in From the New World are soothing, especially with the soft silhouettes, not at all garish like K. But please don't misrepresent the visual style of two flashback scenes as pervasive throughout the episode, because it's not.

Ah, I was simply referring to people's reactions to the screenshots posted here, not the complete episodes themselves. As it is, I think the "cool" (temperature wise, not #swag) blue filter of K could be really effective if it was toned down significantly...
 

BluWacky

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Are you on some mission to check out every first episode of the season or something?

Sort of. I don't tend to watch first episodes of sequels - because I've usually seen some of the original series - and there are some shows I don't bother with because I've seen enough to make up my mind already (I won't bother watching BTOOOM!, for instance, because I've pre-judged it). But for a show I really don't know anything about like Busou Shinki - where all I know is it's based on mecha musume figurines - it doesn't hurt, and at least I can comment from a place of some knowledge rather than saying they suck without ever having seen them.

Also it's good language practice, particularly in a show with as facile a plot as Busou Shinki's first episode where virtually all the vocab is stuff I know already.
 

Jarmel

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I think this is kind of interesting. Do all shows really need one defined lead? Often it seems like media where the focal viewpoint is split between multiple characters with multiple perspectives is praised for doing so, since it opens up a lot more opportunities then if there is simply one protagonist. Is Zetsuen that kind of show? I'd be more excited for it if it was, rather than the simplistic "here is your shounen lead, now sit back and enjoy". It seems like you were actively looking for that in the first episode.

I really don't know. The viewpoint is definitely focused on Yoshino but the storyline makes Mahiro much more important. It's like watching from the point of the sidekick and I'm not sure if that was the point. I mean if they focused on the chemistry between the two instead of a couple of scenes and some dialogue telling the audience the relationship between the two then I think I would be more receptive to it.
 

Dresden

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zetsuen no tempest - 01

Still has many of the same problems the manga has--overwrought dialogue and the awkward quoting of Shakespeare among others--but otherwise, it was a good episode and gives me hope for the show moving forward. It's the same set of events, but presented in a different fashion, at least from what I remember. Ando's direction and the strong production helps it distinguish itself from the morass of shows coming out this season.

mages are tough said:

The fight in the middle was great, too; great sense of motion, with a brutal end. The preview shows the spear-dude coming up so that should be cool as well. I don't have the same level of hate for the manga that duckroll does (it's more of a generalized sense of dislike and apathy rather than hate), so I'm hopeful that this could, indeed, turn out well. We'll know in a month or two when the series reaches that part.
 
Sort of. I don't tend to watch first episodes of sequels - because I've usually seen some of the original series - and there are some shows I don't bother with because I've seen enough to make up my mind already (I won't bother watching BTOOOM!, for instance, because I've pre-judged it). But for a show I really don't know anything about like Busou Shinki - where all I know is it's based on mecha musume figurines - it doesn't hurt, and at least I can comment from a place of some knowledge rather than saying they suck without ever having seen them.

Also it's good language practice, particularly in a show with as facile a plot as Busou Shinki's first episode where virtually all the vocab is stuff I know already.

Personally, knowing it's from the same studio and director as Infinite Stratos and glancing at the trailers is all I need to prejudge Busou Shinki, but your stance is reasonable, especially from the point of view of practicing Japanese.

I really don't know. The viewpoint is definitely focused on Yoshino but the storyline makes Mahiro much more important. It's like watching from the point of the sidekick and I'm not sure if that was the point.

No comment on how this is handled in Tempest, since I haven't seen the episode yet, but it is not unheard of for the viewpoint character of a story to differ from the character actually driving the plot. The Great Gatsby would be one example.
 

duckroll

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Busou Shinki 1

Tiny moe mecha girls do moe things while their hideously drawn high-school age "master" is at school. This week - they unpack, put on maid dresses, and then try and shoot each other because of a letter flying out the window!

The OP - and parts of the episode - have little girls flying around in CG going pew pew at each other. The episode itself has one of them squirt herself with milk before complaining that her breasts are too big to fit in a maid costume. I think you can tell if this show is going to appeal to you!

It does have a hamster, though. The hamster sees everything. I wonder if it, too, thinks that "Master" is drawn really weirdly?

So this is like a moe fanservice mecha musume version of Small Soldiers or something?
 
Accel World 23

Action wasn't bad.

But of course the story has to rear its ugly head so all of that good will was ruined. At least it's almost over.
 

Dead

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There might be like, one person in this thread that can relate here, but...

Cluster Edge DVD review from ANN:

While calling this an awful series would be a stretch,

No ANN, no it would not be a stretch. At all.

lol
 

duckroll

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zetsuen no tempest - 01

Still has many of the same problems the manga has--overwrought dialogue and the awkward quoting of Shakespeare among others--but otherwise, it was a good episode and gives me hope for the show moving forward. It's the same set of events, but presented in a different fashion, at least from what I remember. Ando's direction and the strong production helps it distinguish itself from the morass of shows coming out this season.



The fight in the middle was great, too; great sense of motion, with a brutal end. The preview shows the spear-dude coming up so that should be cool as well. I don't have the same level of hate for the manga that duckroll does (it's more of a generalized sense of dislike and apathy rather than hate), so I'm hopeful that this could, indeed, turn out well. We'll know in a month or two when the series reaches that part.

You know, the little details and expanded character development moments and other incidental things littered throughout the first episode actually make the writing feel MUCH stronger than the manga. I wonder what it says when we have to face the reality where Mari Okada is more capable of telling this story than the original manga author.... >_<
 

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You know, the little details and expanded character development moments and other incidental things littered throughout the first episode actually make the writing feel MUCH stronger than the manga. I wonder what it says when we have to face the reality where Mari Okada is more capable of telling this story than the original manga author.... >_<
Maybe this is the story that Okada was born to tell (or re-tell actually)
 
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