pharmboy044
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This.
I don't really care about the retail PS3 games but I need my PSN games to come across to the PS4.
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vg247-PS4: new kits shipping now, AMD A10 used as base, final version next summer
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This.
I don't really care about the retail PS3 games but I need my PSN games to come across to the PS4.
Why do you not want a 720?
tinfoilhatman
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I don't know about anyone else but I only have 4-5 HDMI ports and their nearly full already, nor do I want a PS4 if it won't play existing PSN games, collecting old tech is dumb and clutters up your entertainment center.
Didnt someone say its equal to a fat buu? What power level is that?
That's exactly what I was thinking. Even the highest end APU out today A10-5800k barely runs BF3 on PC. Sony definitely wants this thing to be cheap. Was looking at benchmarks the other day and it's an okay combo, but doesn't push anything cutting edge.
30-32 FPS on Ultra settings @ 1280 x 720
31-33 FPS on Low settings @ 1920 x 1080
Yeah, you make a good point, didn't think about that.
I will never understand this line of thinking. For your sake, I hope the ps4 is as powerful, if not more, than the 720.
For me, I'll just get whichever will give me better multi-plat titles, so probably the more powerful of the two.
He asked for tech demos, not pre-rendered movie.
Still tech demos are useless and serve no purpose other than misleading consumers.
maverick40
Junior Member
What are you basing this off? Nothing!
oh damn..forgot about that trailer haha good times. I read the gaf thread on it recently too, was hilarious.
Fingers crossed for more of it for ps4 reveal. I think we will get an equal dose of great first party games at all events..well maybe not so much at TGs..but E3 and Gamescom for sure
new game by Sony Santa Monica
new game by Naughty Dog
new game by Sucker Punch
new game by Guerrilla Studios
it's gonna be goooodKazuma Kiryu
Member
these comparisons are pointless.
KojiKnight
Member
On-board and APU graphics are mostly limited by memory and memory bandwidth... Game consoles won't have that issue.
No.
That presumably depends on what kind of APU we're talking about, no?
A 4 or 6 CU APU of the ilk available in desktops today? Yeah, we're stretching.
But the 18-CU APU described in the last rumour would probably be able to 'do' something around PS3/360 720p/30 level graphics at 1080p/60/3D.
However...1080p/60/3D (or 4K for that matter) will be as much a capability as 1080p was for PS3. It's there but it won't be a typical target for games with high per pixel complexity.
oh damn..forgot about that trailer haha good times. I read the gaf thread on it recently too, was hilarious.
Fingers crossed for more of it for ps4 reveal. I think we will get an equal dose of great first party games at all events..well maybe not so much at TGs..but E3 and Gamescom for sure
new game by Sony Santa Monica
new game by Naughty Dog
new game by Sucker Punch
new game by Guerrilla Studios
I think there are a couple of secret studio exclusive IP in the work. Like one from Ready at Dawn
No, it's an OS feature that devs purposely have to disable IIRC.
It does? I never knew mines had that, how do I use it?
Deadly Joker
Member
So are we looking at a 2013 or 2014 launch for the PS4?
Less complicated programing relying less on the Cell SPUs, so they could be easier to emulate? I don't know but losings all my PSN games would be really really bad for sony.
2013
well R@D did say they were going multi. But who knows, it's been a while and things very well could have changed.
And Quantic Dream has one more game also...but doubt we will see that for another 2 years or so.
Media Molecule also has a game that is unannounced but still early in development.
Polyphony must be working on GT6 too...so we might see a GT6 prologue
oh and w/e the heck Evolution studios are working on. I know one of the guys who was behind PGR is working with them now. Should be interesting.
and add w/e 3rd party exclusives they can net and we have a recipe of hype overload
do you remember the PS3's goals?
sounds like it's being built around laptop parts. while this makes sense given the cooling/power requirements of modern GPUs, it probably isn't what you guys want.
Not until they officially reveal it,they won't have to 'hide' their specs either since sony always details them in the announce presser,the games would hopefully look great in the reveals too.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Not all games support it.
Can't cross game chat if you aren't online to begin with. But that is for another thread.
Why do you think that? MS also uses APU with even less powerful AMD Jaguar cores, and we dont known any dedicated gpu info for both consoles.
Tears For Fears
Banned
I know this isn't final, but an A10 base would be very underwhelming. I mean is their a secondary GPU as a kicker? If not, I think I'm going to pass this time on Sony.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
4gigs of ram confirmed.
But, but, no way next gen consoles will run at 1080p! Buy a PC instead! lol.
Oh, man.
1080p has been a very common resolution for PC gamers for 4 years at least.
It would be a real shame if so called "next-gen" consoles can't run games natively at 1080p. I would hardly call that an achievement.
If they go 720p (which I doubt very much) then that's fine, it won't prevent me from getting the Orbis/Durango.
Good point. Plus with an APU approach you can get benefits from faster CPU-GPU communications.
So 4 or 8 final
Ofc,i'm hoping we get the official reveal as early as possible after the holidays.
32GB of internal flash as a base is totally possible, though!
I hope it will have keyboard/mouse support like PS3 but I hope it gets used for some games that make sense. FOr example Simcity or similar games. I don't like to play games on a PC but there are games like that or Football Manager that only make sense with a keyboard and mouse
zerokoolpsx
Member
Sounds really good so far.
I really think there's more to these specs then were being told. You don't throw out goals of running 1080p/60 in 3d and providing strong performance for today and tomorrow by releasing a console that will struggle to play today's games at high settings and high framerates.
I know people dismissed it quickly as the authors speculation but I do think there was some likeliness to the idea of next years line of lower wattage and cheaper amd gpus that provide increased performance likely being used in some way in these consoles.
I mean I can't imagine how Sony could convince themselves that a system with only a APU based on tech from this year will not only last them 5-7 years staring in 2013 but that it will be able to deliver on its stated goals.
I know people dismissed it quickly as the authors speculation but I do think there was some likeliness to the idea of next years line of lower wattage and cheaper amd gpus that provide increased performance likely being used in some way in these consoles.
I mean I can't imagine how Sony could convince themselves that a system with only a APU based on tech from this year will not only last them 5-7 years staring in 2013 but that it will be able to deliver on its stated goals.
Kung Fu Grip
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Everybody has been saying next gen console won't run games at 1080p. That it's impossible. You need a PC. I never doubted it. I knew they would (well PS4 for now going with this article) be able to.
This should be an achievement to the doubters.
Open up the Party app and go into a game. Games that disable network features unfortunately also disable it.
phosphor112
Banned
It'll be fine. PS3 already does 60fps 3D games.
Out of the box it can run BF3 Ultimate at nearly 30fps at 1080p...
In a console it'll run a lot more efficient, not to mention these aren't final specs.
phosphor112
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Grinchy
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Yeah that's a definite concern. I am still holding onto the hope that Sony has learned from the RSX.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Is no one questioning the legitimacy of this? I mean, it's another VG247 rumor about a next generation console and its specs...
So this is a win ? Wow, I had no idea expectations were that low.
I fully expect 1920*1080 to be THE standard for next-gen.
Tallshortman
Member
It would have to be paired with a discrete GPU, the A10 is definitely not powerful enough to power an entire next gen console.
I don't know what other stories they've had, but they were pretty bang on with their Vita stories. Even had a photo of the dev kit.
To everyone who was calling people crazy a year or 2 ago for saying the new consoles will have 4GB or more Eat it!
I was likely one of those people but many of us saying that were saying it won't have more than 4GB of GDDR5.
BIG difference if they have since switched to a different type of RAM and nothing to eat crow over since we were essentially right. =)
H_Prestige
Banned
So it's less than the wii u?
you must be thrilled at the prospect of it meeting the stunningly consistent high standards of its forbearer.