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Hideki Kamiya shits all over Kotaku

Jinfash

needs 2 extra inches
I don't give a crap about any of this, I'm more intrigued by his English proficiency; sometimes he'll post something in broken English, while other times he'll come up with something not only impeccable but too witty... So which one is the real Kamiya?
 

qq more

Member
I don't give a crap about any of this, I'm more intrigued by his English proficiency; sometimes he'll post something in broken English, while other times he'll come up with something not only impeccable but too witty... So which one is the real Kamiya?

I'm the real Kamiya, duh.


EDIT: oh you removed the other post...
 
"How many **indecipherable japanese** do I need to block today?" had me in stitches.

I've tried to like Kotaku. Everytime I go there I have a quick peruse then leave unsatisfied.
 

News Bot

Banned
Kotaku are clueless dickheads, but that is nothing new. They were rightfully called out... yet again. Is there anyone that actually takes them seriously anymore?

Kamiya needs to stop feeding trolls. Also this;

People freaking out about "foreigners" is just the ultimate irony. Japanese gaming, and all of Japanese culture has been smeared on these blogs basically every day for the last several years. Even just yesterday in the thread showing off Platinum's 2013 lineup I remember one commenter saying "Just when you thought it was safe to ignore Japanese games ...." and no one called him out for it. Kotaku runs shit culture articles every day to try and make Japan seem as fucked up as possible, only picking the weirdest shit.

Kamiya lashes back once after their article basically uses him to call all of Japan "clueless," and you guys act like you give a damn about xenophobia now? Give me a break. It's getting to the point of reverse racism because if anyone's been the victim of constant bashing and race-based generalizations in gaming this gen, it's the Japanese.

Just look at the comments on that initial Kotaku article on Kamiya's comments, merely saying he's not interested in PC gaming. "Just when I thought Japan couldn't be any more behind than they already are ..." and on and on.

Cry me a river. Oh no, he said "foreigners."

can't be said enough. Some people need to get over themselves.
 

Rubius

Member
Kotaku are clueless dickheads, but that is nothing new. They were rightfully called out... yet again. Is there anyone that actually takes them seriously anymore?

Kamiya needs to stop feeding trolls. Also this;
can't be said enough. Some people need to get over themselves.
People being racist or xenophobe do not mean I can go be racist or xenophobe.
The whole "He did it first!" thing is meaningless. If he want to be respected, he have to stop acting like a child and grow up. Insulting people is really immature.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
People being racist or xenophobe do not mean I can go be racist or xenophobe.
The whole "He did it first!" thing is meaningless. If he want to be respected, he have to stop acting like a child and grow up. Insulting people is really immature.

But there's nothing racist on what Kamiya did, especially if you read the context.

And I still believe that the perpetrator still needs to be smacked with a slap.
 

Rubius

Member
But there's nothing racist on what Kamiya did, especially if you read the context.

And I still believe that the perpetrator still needs to be smacked with a slap.

It was intended to insult the journalist with racisms. He did say Some. But he said it in Japanese. Changing your language prove that he wanted to show something more than simply saying fuck you.
He just act like a drunk guy. Dont have respect for him right now.
 
So seeing as him insulting someone by using "foreigner" is what most people are talking about, I'm just wondering if Kotaku actually apologized for the bullshit they pulled?
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
It was intended to insult the journalist with racisms. He did say Some. But he said it in Japanese. Changing your language prove that he wanted to show something more than simply saying fuck you.
He just act like a drunk guy. Dont have respect for him right now.
Calling somebody a stupid foreigner is not "racisms", especially when they are making broad sweeping generalizations about your native country that you likely know better than they do. It's descriptive.
 

Shosai

Banned
Kotaku are clueless dickheads, but that is nothing new. They were rightfully called out... yet again. Is there anyone that actually takes them seriously anymore?

Kamiya needs to stop feeding trolls. Also this;

People freaking out about "foreigners" is just the ultimate irony. Japanese gaming, and all of Japanese culture has been smeared on these blogs basically every day for the last several years. Even just yesterday in the thread showing off Platinum's 2013 lineup I remember one commenter saying "Just when you thought it was safe to ignore Japanese games ...." and no one called him out for it. Kotaku runs shit culture articles every day to try and make Japan seem as fucked up as possible, only picking the weirdest shit.

Kamiya lashes back once after their article basically uses him to call all of Japan "clueless," and you guys act like you give a damn about xenophobia now? Give me a break. It's getting to the point of reverse racism because if anyone's been the victim of constant bashing and race-based generalizations in gaming this gen, it's the Japanese.

Just look at the comments on that initial Kotaku article on Kamiya's comments, merely saying he's not interested in PC gaming. "Just when I thought Japan couldn't be any more behind than they already are ..." and on and on.

Cry me a river. Oh no, he said "foreigners."


can't be said enough. Some people need to get over themselves.

Seriously? The gaming press criticizes western game developers on a daily basis, is it only xenophobia when Japanese games get flack?
 

Rubius

Member
Calling somebody a stupid foreigner is not "racisms", especially when they are making broad sweeping generalizations about your native country that you likely know better than they do. It's descriptive.

Lets say that Kamiya was from Canada for a second and said the exact same thing in french instead of Japanese,wont you think that saying that this guy is a (tabarnaque d'epais d'etranger)? If the guy was from the US talking about a guy from Japan talking about the US. Would a guy from US saying to a Japanese man that he's a "fucking stupid idiot foreigners ;)" not considered racism?
Really?
 

MachoSuave

Neo Member
It was intended to insult the journalist with racisms. He did say Some. But he said it in Japanese. Changing your language prove that he wanted to show something more than simply saying fuck you.
He just act like a drunk guy. Dont have respect for him right now.

The author of the article, as described and quoted several times, was being a narrow-minded racist shithead. "One who is foreign and completely fucking ignorant to our ways" is just a basic observation.

Shosai said:
Seriously? The gaming press criticizes western game developers on a daily basis, is it only xenophobia when Japanese games get flack?

When the whole grounding of their criticism is "loljapan" and involves comparisons such as how behind they are compared to glorious Western developers of such honoured titles as Gears of Halo 23: Return of the Nazi Space Zombies™ and Battlecharted: Drake's set piece montage, yes, it is.
 

Roto13

Member
Lets say that Kamiya was from Canada for a second and said the exact same thing in french instead of Japanese,wont you think that saying that this guy is a (tabarnaque d'epais d'etranger)? If the guy was from the US talking about a guy from Japan talking about the US. Would a guy from US saying to a Japanese man that he's a "fucking stupid idiot foreigners ;)" not considered racism?
Really?

False equivalence. Nobody likes French Canadians because they're horrible.
 
Lets say that Kamiya was from Canada for a second and said the exact same thing in french instead of Japanese,wont you think that saying that this guy is a (tabarnaque d'epais d'etranger)? If the guy was from the US talking about a guy from Japan talking about the US. Would a guy from US saying to a Japanese man that he's a "fucking stupid idiot foreigners ;)" not considered racism?
Really?

First of all, Giajin literally means outsider, not foreigner, whatever it's usage. 2, of course not. The dude learned english, he made Bayonetta[a caucasian video game character], the dude obviously finds whites pretty tolerable. You don't see a member of the kkk directing django, do you? There's a difference between pc nonsense, and actual racism.
This guy thought he understand the culture of a Japanese person better than a Japanese person, with tons of condescension.
At this point, idiot foreigner is just a factual statement.
 
Seriously? The gaming press criticizes western game developers on a daily basis, is it only xenophobia when Japanese games get flack?
You really don't see any irony in people being offended that he called an American a foreigner when the whole basis for why the guy was mad was that the American wrote an article shitting on Japanese gaming development and how they're "Clueless"?

So the American can generalize that say that they're clueless, but I'm supposed to get offended when the guy comes back calling him a foreign asshole? At this point it's just a description.
 
You really don't see any irony in people being offended that he called an American a foreigner when the whole basis for why the guy was mad was that the American wrote an article shitting on Japanese gaming development and how they're "Clueless"?

So the American can generalize that say that they're clueless, but I'm supposed to get offended when the guy comes back calling him a foreign asshole? At this point it's just a description.
Damn right.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Seriously? The gaming press criticizes western game developers on a daily basis, is it only xenophobia when Japanese games get flack?

You either haven't been paying attention or you're just playing dumb. It's not about criticizing individual developers so much as it's been about trying to find a fault in Japan as a country, culture, and people. It's been about painting with extremely broad strokes and generalizing that all Japanese developers are the same or something.

Since around 2006 or 2007 or so, there's been a serious backlash against Japanese developers and games from Japan in general. Lots of "how the mighty have fallen" and "is Japan still relevant?" articles and such.
 

cicero

Member
He's just like us!

Reading that gave me a strong flashback to my senior year of high school when a stripper asked my Japanese exchange student friend questions about Japan, like whether or not they used money and lived in houses. That's a real thing that happened.
While she was giving him a lapdance? Or was it a he?...
 
People keep saying stuff like "of course he would call Kotaku 'stupid foreigners' because of their dumb article" but is there even any reason to believe that he paid enough attention to that article to make that conclusion? Considering his past tweets, I think it's more likely that the "stupid foreigners" thing was 100% directed at the English-speakers trolling his twitter and no one else.
 

Yagharek

Member
People keep saying stuff like "of course he would call Kotaku 'stupid foreigners' because of their dumb article" but is there even any reason to believe that he paid enough attention to that article to make that conclusion?

I'm sure the headline was enough reason for him to call them out.
 

Roto13

Member
People keep saying stuff like "of course he would call Kotaku 'stupid foreigners' because of their dumb article" but is there even any reason to believe that he paid enough attention to that article to make that conclusion? Considering his past tweets, I think it's more likely that the "stupid foreigners" thing was 100% directed at the English-speakers trolling his twitter and no one else.

The headline is more than enough reason to get mad. I'm sure they were covered under the "stupid foreigners" blanket. And their dumbass defenders.
 

cicero

Member

Wow, and here I had chosen to never read them over the years because they were always basically on this level.

FtZiD.jpg


Now the pendulum has swung the other way completely.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It was intended to insult the journalist with racisms. He did say Some. But he said it in Japanese. Changing your language prove that he wanted to show something more than simply saying fuck you.
He just act like a drunk guy. Dont have respect for him right now.

Calling someone foreigner doesn't really insult a person. And like I said, he's mimicking the actual racist one (Kotaku article writer) to begin with.
 
Calling somebody a stupid foreigner is not "racisms", especially when they are making broad sweeping generalizations about your native country that you likely know better than they do. It's descriptive.

This so much. So many twisted panties ITT. Games journalism is a joke and Kotaku is at the bottom of the barrel, I'm glad someone finally told them to fuck off (even if he used a nasty boo-hoo word like "foreigners").
 
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