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Sony : Vice President for Japan hints at possible PS4 announcement in May/June

Iacobellis

Junior Member
Going by historical patterns, I would have expected an announcement no later than April for any console launching this year.

But it's certainly possible that the timeframes have shortened, or that PS4 is a 2014 launch.

Nope, nope, nope! Guerrilla Games said 2013 would be their biggest year since the original Killzone came out on the PS2.

Where's that guy here working on Mercenary? I'm sure he knows what is going on.
 
These consoles always launch with something that's exclusive. 360 launched with PGR3, Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero, 1 month later DOA4 released. PS3 launched with Resistance, Genji and Untold Legends, 2 months later MotorStorm released.

Obviously 360 had a way better start than PS3. I wonder the launch lineup and launch window exclusive games PS4 and 720 will have.

I know they have exclusives, all I'm saying is that they usually aren't the biggest of hits. Which leads me to conclude that unless it's something on the level of a Halo CE, then it won't be the difference between success or not.

My opinion.
 

KAL2006

Banned
As far as the possibility of backward compatibility goes:

PS1: Almost 100% certain it will be there, since PS2 and PS3 have it. This will be emulated in software, just like the PS3 has always done it.

PS2: About 95% chance of this happening. If we get PS2, it will be emulated in software. They're already selling PS2 classics that are modified to run on all PS3 machines (not just the early models. If the PS4 has good PS2 emulation, then they can quickly amass a PS2 classic library without having to go through a long modification process.

PS3: It doesn't look very likely that we'll get traditional backward compatibility, especially if they aren't including at least some portion of the PS3 chipset. One possibility is that they could use Gaikai for online streaming of PS3 games, as other people have mentioned. Another possibility, though, is that the system includes some sort of interface that allows an expansion module to be connected. The module would contain the parts of the PS3 chipset that cannot be easily emulated. By doing this, they can sell the basic PS4 system at a low price, then for an additional fee (for example, $100) allow people to add hardware-level PS3 compatibility to the system.

To sum it up: Both PS1 & PS2 would be emulated through software, while PS3 would be provided either through Gaikai or an optional expansion module.

I like this idea. It makes the PS4 system cost less due to not having old hardware built in just for BC, so people who don't care for BC don't have to spend extra money just for BC. Also I remember Sony had a patent for this idea.
 
PS3: It doesn't look very likely that we'll get traditional backward compatibility, especially if they aren't including at least some portion of the PS3 chipset. One possibility is that they could use Gaikai for online streaming of PS3 games, as other people have mentioned. Another possibility, though, is that the system includes some sort of interface that allows an expansion module to be connected. The module would contain the parts of the PS3 chipset that cannot be easily emulated. By doing this, they can sell the basic PS4 system at a low price, then for an additional fee (for example, $100) allow people to add hardware-level PS3 compatibility to the system.

I actually brought this up in a conversation with a friend of mine a few days ago and I think it's the most sensible option. Sony really put themselves in a tough spot with PS2 BC on the PS3. Some people wanted to play every PS2 game under the sun, other people just wanted a cheaper box. In the end, i don't think either side was very happy. I think offering a separate PS3 BC module makes the most sense (keep manufacturing costs down while offering a hardware BC option for those that want it).
 

Fezzan

Unconfirmed Member
Nope, nope, nope! Guerrilla Games said 2013 would be their biggest year since the original Killzone came out on the PS2.

Where's that guy here working on Mercenary? I'm sure he knows what is going on.

What was so amazing about the original Killzone?
Or do they just mean they're going to show a new IP.
 

PaulLFC

Member
After the very slow PS3 start and PSV I´ll wait a few years and for a possible slim revision.
I admire your patience if you can do that. Barring the PS4 turning out to be awful or having a ridiculous $599 price again, I don't think I'll be able to not buy it day 1, I already can't wait for next gen.
 
people keep talking about MS market share in America like it's 10 to 1 reality is more like 60/40, I highly doubt Sony gives that much of a fuck about fanboy talking points on the internet. So what MS fans will be able to beat their dicks in NPD threads, what matters or should matter is selling enough to ensure continued support of which they risk nothing launching a few months after MS. Sony should focus on nothing but providing the best product that they can, worse case scenario is they end up like this gen, dead last........selling 80+ million units, so so terrible especially when your closest competitor sells less (but more in one area)

that said, I want to hear concrete info on this thing in the next few weeks or I'm heading to Canada to freeze myself, I'm serious Sony I'll do it
 

Massa

Member
I like this idea. It makes the PS4 system cost less due to not having old hardware built in just for BC, so people who don't care for BC don't have to spend extra money just for BC. Also I remember Sony had a patent for this idea.

Or they could just make the top of the system flat so you can lay a PS3 on top of it. :p
 

KAL2006

Banned
I know they have exclusives, all I'm saying is that they usually aren't the biggest of hits. Which leads me to conclude that unless it's something on the level of a Halo CE, then it won't be the difference between success or not.

My opinion.

I don't think the launch line up makes the system but it is a big factor. I remember PS3's launch line up being crap with Resistance being the only big game and with Motorstorm coming out 2 months later. Then throughout the first year they only had flops like Lair and Heavenly Sword, then they managed to have mild successes with Uncharted 1 and Ratchet for it's 2nd fall line up. Where as MS launched with PGR3, COD2, Kameo, had DOA4 a month later, then had time exclusives like Fight Night R3, Rainbow Six Vegas and Oblivion. Then exclusives like Saints Row, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata. And of course Gears of War for it's 2nd fall title.

All the above titles were the games released in the consoles first year. It was obvious MS had the upper hand here.
 
If they both launch around the same time it's going to be a really difficult decision for me. I really enjoyed both consoles this generation.
 

Dusky

Member
That's what I have heard. But, the series must mean something for Sony to let it keep going after nine years. Resistance got shafted in about half that time.

The Killzone IP sells well as far as Playstation titles go, that's enough a reason for Sony to keep making them.
 

Iacobellis

Junior Member
The Killzone IP well as far as Playstation titles go, that's enough a reason for Sony to keep making them.

I can see Uncharted sticking around for a while, Naughty Dog and Sony have always had a good relationship. TLoU could get a sequel on the PS4.
 

Marco1

Member
I have always thought that if your next console will have great BC that would improve the AA or framerate then the earlier you announce that feature then the more likely you are to buy multi-plats for that platform.
If PS4 will definitely have BC and it was announced in September 2012 then I would have bought all of my games on PS3 and not the 360.
 
Also, Sony and MS should try and do damage in Brazil. It's becoming this huge economy, and has almost 200 million people.

It's a no brainer.

As a Brazilian i can say that this was a huuuuge Sonyland, more so than Europe. It's a shame our current tax system for games puts PC games on software taxes and console games under gambling taxes. So console games cost three times the PC counterparts.

Steam is making a huge initiative here, because they can sell popular games like Fifa at a reasonable price.

But make no mistake about it that Brazil is the next big thing in terms of the gaming market. People can spend a lot on leisure (middle class) our buying power is much more ready than the other BRIC countries (Turkey, India and China) so we could be a top 5 market for gaming for sure.

Sony is dropping the ball here. A little more lobby and the new tax law for games could already have passed, as the congressman working on the project once told me.

I hope they don't wait like 2-3 years to release the system here, because if they do that, they would be wasting one of the last huge Sonylands they have.
 
But make no mistake about it that Brazil is the next big thing in terms of the gaming market. People can spend a lot on leisure (middle class) our buying power is much more ready than the other BRIC countries (Turkey, India and China) so we could be a top 5 market for gaming for sure.

Brazil
Russia
India
China
 

Fezzan

Unconfirmed Member
Had you heard of GG before the first Killzone? That had to be a huge moment for them. They're not saying that the first Killzone was amazing.

Because I noticed they put out a mediocre product?
That doesn't sound like the best example to use, why not just say "the biggest thing since the killzone series"
 

Midou

Member
Pre-E3 announcement with a few preliminary details would be best, so you can focus on the bulk of the important details and games at E3, or that would be my optimal scenario at least. Build the hype leading up to E3 instead of doing it all in one huge announcement.
 

Sinistral

Member
Overall, I'm excited for the next gen but not so much the hardware. I'm hoping the power disparity between the two is minimal for 3rd party development. Where this gen multiplatformers usually fared better performance wise on the 360.

What I'm mostly looking forward to is the new games. Where I think the ultimate battle will be played. Blu Ray, Xbox live, feature differences won't be that important. This is where I doubt Microsoft in terms of exclusives, not so much them having good ones, just the type of exclusives. FPS and 3rd Person Shooters don't interest me much as I have a gaming PC, this is where I side towards the Sony Console.

Looking forward to the coming summer, and subsequent fall. With the PS3 and 360, I started College when they came out, so I couldn't take advantage of getting into consoles then. This time, it's different. Bring on the new consoles!
 
Doing the official reveal after TLOU launches but before E3 makes sense, talk about the specs and the tech at the initial reveal, then E3 can be about the games, this year could be the best E3 ever.

Day One, I'm ready!
 
Because I noticed they put out a mediocre product?
That doesn't sound like the best example to use, why not just say "the biggest thing since the killzone series"

Ok. So you're just misconstruing an innocuous comment to attack a game almost a decade old.

Yep, my bad on putting Turkey there, it's Russia, but still, the same can be said about Russia. As bad as it is, we already have games selling well, so it's just a matter of them putting the required effort.

Yea, Turkey is definitely in the conversation though. I was just being nitpicky.

You're absolutely right about Brazil, and it does seem like Sony is best poised to treat that market on par with the others.
 

Globox_82

Banned
My wish list for PS4

Of course 3rd party needs to be there, I hope MS doesn't make time exclusive purchases which I expect tbh.

First/second party: Ready at Dawn IP(they said they want to be there day 1 once next gen hits), SSM IP(open world rumor, from guys that made GOW games- with their tech mmmm) and something from SCEJ (something like Demon Souls 2 would be insane), this would make it day one for me, well it is day one either way....
 
I am getting so out of my mind hyped for this E3 that there is now way it can deliver.

My daydreams include:

-A new Jack and Daxter that is first and foremost a platformer.
-From Software shows a new entry into the Kings Field series that has adapted many of the lessons learned from the DS games into the ultimate fusion of awesomeness.
-Uncharted 4 melts my mind.
-Launching with TLG, and Versus.

Um, no. I'm just saying them saying the biggest thing since Killzone is a really dumb thing to do

Wow yo really don't like KZ. Killzone was the biggest release as a studio for GG. Them saying its the biggest thing since then points to a new IP. Makes perfect sense.
 
Um, no. I'm just saying them saying the biggest thing since Killzone is a really dumb thing to do

oh STFU seriously, it's their biggest franchise, the franchise that help them establish them as a top developer, you don't have to sell as much as Halo to be proud of your work
 

pestul

Member
I'm actually glad I have the Wii U now. I'm going to let both the PS4 and 720 launch and let them simmer for a while. Bah.. I'll probably end up buying both before the end of next year... even if the Wife will crucify me.
 

Kosma

Banned
I'm actually glad I have the Wii U now. I'm going to let both the PS4 and 720 launch and let them simmer for a while. Bah.. I'll probably end up buying both before the end of next year... even if the Wife will crucify me.

How is that working out for you?

Id take a simmering PS4/720 launch over a smothered Wii U launch any day.
 

maverick40

Junior Member
I'm actually glad I have the Wii U now. I'm going to let both the PS4 and 720 launch and let them simmer for a while. Bah.. I'll probably end up buying both before the end of next year... even if the Wife will crucify me.

Your post makes zero sense.
 

CLEEK

Member
Um, no. I'm just saying them saying the biggest thing since Killzone is a really dumb thing to do

Killzone was their first game. A game that had enormous hype and coverage, and one that set up a huge popular franchise that dictated their focus for the next 9 years.

Very few studios release games as high profile as Killzone, let alone as their first game. So GG as just saying that their year will be as big for them as Killzone was back in 2003. So they must be working on a major new IP, that will be massively hyped and have a ton of PR.

The quality of Killzone has nothing to do with their comment.
 

Iacobellis

Junior Member
Killzone was their first game. A game that had enormous hype and coverage, and one that set up a huge popular franchise that dictated their focus for the next 9 years.

Very few studios release games as high profile as Killzone, let alone as their first game. So GG as just saying that their year will be as big for them as Killzone was back in 2003. So they must be working on a major new IP, that will be massively hyped and have a ton of PR.

The quality of Killzone has nothing to do with their comment.

Or maybe KZ4 is a PS4 launch title, offering cross-play online with KZ:M.
 
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