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Netflix launches 'Super HD' and 3D streaming - for certain ISPs

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CaptainCally24

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Have Cablevision with plenty of speed, don't see any titles listed Super HD & if they are showing in Super HD on my Apple TV then there is no noticeable difference. Still wouldn't stop me from switching to FiOS
 
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Kurdel

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somuchwater said:
So, has anyone tested this yet?

Any thoughts on the quality?
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I can't find anything labeled "Super HD" on Canadian Netflix on Apple tv.

The framerate seemed faster/smoother on Arrested Development, but that could just me noticing that for the first time.
 
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Raistlin said:
Thanks for adding so much to this thread.


I give my position, and your response is essentially that I'm not worth acknowledging and you don't bother to argue your position.
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you seem to be doing enough of that for both of us.

you 'gave' my position then argued against it and then wonder why you're not worth giving a real response to?
 
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CrunchinJelly

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SuperHD is such a dumb term. Just call it 1080p and be done with it.

I noticed this the other day, though, I'm in the UK on Virgin and literally everything seemed to be SuperHD.
 
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Phobophile

A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
I get Internet service from Comcast but no TV or phone. A Comcast sales person called me up Friday afternoon offering for another $5/mo. a basic cable package with HBO and their Netflix clone that they touted as getting more movies and sooner than Netflix.

I'd say there's a slim chance Comcast will be getting this soon, if at all.
 
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teiresias

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CrunchinJelly said:
SuperHD is such a dumb term. Just call it 1080p and be done with it.
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Because just calling it 1080p doesn't differentiate it from the standard lower bitrate 1080p that they're still serving up to customers that aren't on an ISP that doesn't use Open Connect. The difference is in the bitrate, not in the resolution, because even without SuperHD you can still get 1080p streaming on the PS3 client (just for example).

somuchwater said:
So, has anyone tested this yet?

Any thoughts on the quality?
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I think it looks really good with the caveat that (as usual) it's all dependent on the source material having a good transfer. There's some material up there that is labeled SuperHD, and it may very well be using a higher bitrate stream, but the picture quality of the source material makes the extra bitrate moot. One good example is a movie like "The Mostly Unfabulous Social Life of Ethan Green" (warning: gay movie, if it matters to you, but it's a good example of my point). It's a low budget movie that looks like it was filmed with a consumer camcorder - but it gets the SuperHD label simply because their source file supported the higher bitrate, even though the movie itself isn't going to look any better because it's crap quality anyway.

Now, something like Downtown Abbey looks incredible. I watched them originally on Amazon Instant streaming video which is 720p on the PS3. I watched some of S1 on Netflix the other night, and it's SuperHD, and it looked notably improved over the Amazon stream (which admittedly may have just been the resolution bump). Well lit daytime scenes just completely pop and look great - darker scenes exhibit noise in the shadows, but I think that's mainly the camera they use when producing the show.
 
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DarkFlow

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People seem to be confused about the connection req. Mbps is not the same as MB/s. when they say 7mbps, they don't mean how fast your download is, they mean how fast your connection is. I would guess very few ISPs in the us let you download at 7MB/s, I have a 25 Mbps connection and the best I can get is about 4MB/s, and that is plenty fast enough to stream any HD stream out there.
 
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frankie_baby

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Can anyone with plusnet (UK) confirm if it works with them? I assume it does as they're owned by BT but would like to hear it for definite before I switch to them as my current ISP does support it but I don't get a fast enough connection to actually use it
 
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sangreal

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DarkFlow said:
People seem to be confused about the connection req. Mbps is not the same as MB/s. when they say 7mbps, they don't mean how fast your download is, they mean how fast your connection is. I would guess very few ISPs in the us let you download at 7MB/s, I have a 25 Mbps connection and the best I can get is about 4MB/s, and that is plenty fast enough to stream any HD stream out there.
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Who seems confused?
 
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teiresias

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Does anyone else find quite a few SuperHD shows/movies are no longer streaming 5.1 audio even though they say they support it? This is in the PS3 client. Notably, I've noticed Battlestar Galactica, Archer, and Sherlock are no longer streaming 5.1 audio - only stereo.

I know it will stream 5.1 because other content streams 5.1 fine, but it's just select SuperHD content is no longer working in 5.1. Can someone check and tell me if it's just me?
 
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Riggs

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This thread piss's me off ....

My netflix won't even stream in fucking HD on my 360/ps3/ or my PC. 40+ MBPS Down, 5MBPS up , GG. Every other service I have is perfect, my downloads are fast as hell. Either Netflix is fucked or Brighthouse is throttling. Been like this since after Christmas eve when they went down.
 
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Riggs said:
This thread piss's me off ....

My netflix won't even stream in fucking HD on my 360/ps3/ or my PC. 40+ MBPS Down, 5MBPS up , GG. Every other service I have is perfect, my downloads are fast as hell. Either Netflix is fucked or Brighthouse is throttling. Been like this since after Christmas eve when they went down.
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Wait you've been having problems too?

I'm on a different ISP (Comcast) and since they went down we've been unable to stream in HD consistently on anything. We've tried everything possible to get a better connection. I too thought it was throttling by Comcast, simply cause its the only explanation in my book that seems logical. My grandfather is also having the same issues on his devices and he lives in a different city.
 
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Riggs

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BeardyChan said:
Wait you've been having problems too?

I'm on a different ISP (Comcast) and since they went down we've been unable to stream in HD consistently on anything. We've tried everything possible to get a better connection. I too thought it was throttling by Comcast, simply cause its the only explanation in my book that seems logical. My grandfather is also having the same issues on his devices and he lives in a different city.
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Ya man, I made a thread about it also.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506802&highlight=

It's either our ISP's or Netflix ... no idea at this point. I can stream other places fine, and download fast as well. My speeds are included in the thread I made.

Btw downloading something at 5.4MB/s (46Mbps) right now via usenet. So ya .... Netflix is about to get cancelled if this continues for the next month. Just not worth 7 bucks at this shit quality. Way to many alternatives around to bother with them if this is not going to improve, already seen their entire library anyway it seems as I am constantly looking for stuff to watch on the service and it seems anything that is good I've already seen.

Last night I was showing my friend that movie "The Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg, the quality was so fucking bad I just downloaded it else where within 10 minutes. (100% legally of course). Pretty fucked up couldn't even watch the movie it was like 320X200 resolution on netflix I swear hah.
 
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vazel

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BeardyChan said:
Wait you've been having problems too?

I'm on a different ISP (Comcast) and since they went down we've been unable to stream in HD consistently on anything. We've tried everything possible to get a better connection. I too thought it was throttling by Comcast, simply cause its the only explanation in my book that seems logical. My grandfather is also having the same issues on his devices and he lives in a different city.
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Riggs said:
Ya man, I made a thread about it also.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506802&highlight=

It's either our ISP's or Netflix ... no idea at this point. I can stream other places fine, and download fast as well. My speeds are included in the thread I made.

Btw downloading something at 5.4MB/s (46Mbps) right now via usenet. So ya .... Netflix is about to get cancelled if this continues for the next month. Just not worth 7 bucks at this shit quality. Way to many alternatives around to bother with them if this is not going to improve, already seen their entire library anyway it seems as I am constantly looking for stuff to watch on the service and it seems anything that is good I've already seen.

Last night I was showing my friend that movie "The Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg, the quality was so fucking bad I just downloaded it else where within 10 minutes. (100% legally of course). Pretty fucked up couldn't even watch the movie it was like 320X200 resolution on netflix I swear hah.
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If you guys don't mind the additional cost maybe try signing up for a fast VPN service. Someone mentioned this one earlier in this thread that gets SuperHD.
 
The Faceless Master

The Faceless Master

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Riggs said:
Ya man, I made a thread about it also.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506802&highlight=

It's either our ISP's or Netflix ... no idea at this point. I can stream other places fine, and download fast as well. My speeds are included in the thread I made.

Btw downloading something at 5.4MB/s (46Mbps) right now via usenet. So ya .... Netflix is about to get cancelled if this continues for the next month. Just not worth 7 bucks at this shit quality. Way to many alternatives around to bother with them if this is not going to improve, already seen their entire library anyway it seems as I am constantly looking for stuff to watch on the service and it seems anything that is good I've already seen.

Last night I was showing my friend that movie "The Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg, the quality was so fucking bad I just downloaded it else where within 10 minutes. (100% legally of course). Pretty fucked up couldn't even watch the movie it was like 320X200 resolution on netflix I swear hah.
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i would put money on the ISP.

try using Netflix on another internet connection and seeing if its still stuck in low res.
 
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kaskade

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Any idea how to get the 3d working on PS3? It seems to be "superHD" (the quality does look a bit better) but I have no idea how to enable the 3d.
 
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alejob

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Geez! we need google fiber everywhere. A crap load more tv channels and gig internet for the same price my comcast bill will be when my first year is up.
 
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GK86

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Last week Netflix announced it would be delivering streaming 3D video and even higher-quality HD content via ISPs that were participating in its Open Connect initiative — but Time Warner Cable is crying foul. In a statement to Multichannel News, the cable operator contends that "While they call it ‘Open Connect,’ Netflix is actually closing off access to some of its content while seeking unprecedented preferential treatment from ISPs." The statement goes on to say that "We believe it is wrong for Netflix to withhold any content formats from our subscribers and the subscribers of many other ISPs. Time Warner Cable’s networ
k is more than capable of delivering this content to Netflix subscribers today."

At issue is the higher data rates of both streaming 3D and what Netflix calls "Super HD" video. The only way to deliver this content reliably, Netflix says, is to hook elements of its content delivery network directly into ISPs, getting the content closer to the end user and avoiding possible network congestion. Time Warner, however, seems to think its network is more than capable of handling the heavier data streams on its own. Despite the cable operators protestations, Multichannel News does report that Time Warner is in discussions with Netflix to become an Open Connect partner — though it's not yet clear what terms would be required to strike such an arrangement.
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dehydratedbabies said:
So I have Optimum Online but not 5Mb/s download yet all HD titles say Super HD on my PS3. Am I actually getting 1080p?
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Are you sure your not getting 5Mbps? I am not exactly a fan of Cablevision, but all of their plans in the NY Tri-State area offers a minimum of 15Mbps
 
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AstroNut325 said:
As I said before... it doesn't hurt to contact Time Warner and let them know you want Netflix SuperHD. I sent an email to customer support and the response I got was the issue will be escalated to management. And that's just from ONE email.
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I've worked close to this customer service department. believe me when I say, it means nothing. You might get someone to get in contact with you, but it will be PR instead of actual action. Consider, this is the same provider who is the virtually the only coax cable provider in NYC, but still had a very public fight with MSG in showing the Knicks(Owned by another douchy cable provider)

You want to get a real response? Write a letter directly to upper management. Even then, the only thing that TWC responds to is money. So vote with it if you can.
 
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