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MegaTen x Fire Emblem announced (Wii U)
- Thread starter Hot Coldman
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Well, Brawl focuses a lot more on physical violence than FE10. It also has laser guns and explosives, which I'm sure contributed to rise the rating. I believe Sakurai said that he will never include real guns (as in, guns that fire real bullets) in Smash because they can push for an M rating.
So... does that mean 'not an SRPG', or is it counting SRPG as a subset of RPG? I could see both arguments.
well, most of that is pretty much standard in many anime/jrpg these days. If there's a girl who looks like she's underage (and there always is), the writers will find a way to make things as creepy as possible.
NeonZ
Member
It's too early to say either way, it's better to just wait for more news.
Or a musou game
mugurumakensei
Member
RPG at least tells us its in a genre both developers are likely to have had experience in. It also tells us not a fighter, puzzle, or FPS game.
Sakurai should be taking a look at that rival game if it managed to squeeze a T rating with more bullet gun users than necessary...
Hot Coldman
Banned
Damn!
Chrono Helix
Member
SMT probably has enough tracks to fill up a hypothethical SMT Theathyrhythm (drool)
Femmeworth
Banned
Look, neither of us is completely wrong. I think it needs to be reminded that this tangent started with the question of whether Nintendo would allow Mara (and other visually explicit demons) in the game.
Well now that is bad. Couldn't they have just made it so characters within her age range can only have the child?
Edit: Ah all of this came about because of the supposed rating for this game. Nintendo has made M rated games in the past and I doubt this game having an M rating will cut into sales much.
She's like, hundreds of years old.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Enough prattle. Treeroot x Soil
I'm hoping they will. Not only because I would love to see both sides of this crossover represented to its fullest. As sad as it may sound, introducing such mature elements and slapping an "M" rating on a game with Nintendo characters in it might actually help give it a bit more "cred".
And hey, who knows? If people get used to the notion that Fire Emblem is a more "edgy" franchise within Nintendo's stable, maybe that will reflect in how future games will be less censored over here. I STILL want to be able to play remakes of FE4 and FE5 some day...
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Fire Emblem has all this messed up shit and yet we can't have same sex relationships in an FE game :C
The answer is probably no
cj_iwakura
Member
Didn't play SJ did you?
I'm surprised this wasn't brought up sooner. Nintendo could probably make that happen and get Camelot on board.
But there's absolutely no point to be made for Awakening being the first game that steps over any sort of line. That's the point where I just absolutely cannot see where you are coming from.
If sexually explicit or religiously alluding demons aren't allowed there's little point in crossing over with SMT. Fighting YHHW and Angels isn't exactly what I'd have expected 90s Nintendo to tolerate. SMT clashes fundamentally with any sort of kid friendly image.
Also as someone above me pointed out - Mara and Satan have already made appearances on the DS.
Femmeworth
Banned
I didn't say it crossed a line. I pointed to Nowi because of how unsubtle it was.
This is where you claim that after Awakening you wouldn't be sure, even though FE4 already had 12 year old looking children of both genders, Sylvia dressed as a straight up Dancer, that you married off to any other characters. It's the most popular FE in Japan.
And as I said Mara and Satan have already been on the DS and rated T.
eh, dreamworks has pull with the mpaa
Femmeworth
Banned
When I said that, I was only concerned with the entries in the series that had been released in English. After all, we are talking about whether this would get an M rating by the ESRB. Obviously a penis monster isn't a big deal in Japan.
I don't know if this has been discussed before, but given
1) The US marketing Fire Emblem: Awakening is getting
2) Shin Megami Tensei IV characters already shown
3) Trailer featured in all the Directs ( European too)
I have a feeling Nintendo will publish and market SMTIV in the West ( so, Europe too). In this way, they'd improve even further this current big relationship with Atlus through giving to the SMT franchise a brand new marketing boost, just like they're doing with FE:A AND they'd sort of pave the way for SMT x FE, that is obviously going to be published by Nintendo too.
1) The US marketing Fire Emblem: Awakening is getting
2) Shin Megami Tensei IV characters already shown
3) Trailer featured in all the Directs ( European too)
I have a feeling Nintendo will publish and market SMTIV in the West ( so, Europe too). In this way, they'd improve even further this current big relationship with Atlus through giving to the SMT franchise a brand new marketing boost, just like they're doing with FE:A AND they'd sort of pave the way for SMT x FE, that is obviously going to be published by Nintendo too.
Fire Emblem 7 still features a 13 year old being romantically involved with an adult and fostering children. If your sole problem lies with the appearance and not the pedophilic concept, you have to make it clear.
Devil Survivor is still T rated and features Satan.
Looking at how Atlus doesn't have a European office I sure hope so.
If it means plenty of copies would be made and SMT4 would get a decent marketing campaign, that'd be just fine by me.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Femmeworth
Banned
Nino and Jaffar isn't equivalent, though still on the unethical side.
I forgot that the Devil Survivor games only received a T rating.
TurnipFritters
Member
I can't imagine why you think Nintendo would publish SMT4 in NA instead of Atlus USA.
I disagree entirely but we are going in circles. As we mentioned before the English released T rated Sacred Stones even alludes to Necrophilia. It's subtle, but it's there, as are many many other reprehensible things. Neither this series nor SMT are for the prudish.
I guess they took them from Baphomet (and censored him), described Satan as the snake that deceived both Adam and Eve, and figured you need 3 sets to convince him.
Exactly. Let us take a look at Arioch, who is in a T rated game:
I found a whole Top 10 on these.
There's even a clitoris.
16 and 14 years, respectively. And, lol, I like how you're still trying to sell everyone on how edgy FE is
.wat. no it doesn't.
16 and 14 years, respectively. And, lol, I like how you're still trying to sell everyone on how edgy FE is
wat. no it doesn't.
Jaffar is not 16 and Orson messes with his dead wife, with guards commenting on the creepy things he does. It's heavily implied.
You're confusing edgy with legitimately mature content.
Oooohhhh yes it does.
Orson was totally making love to his dead wife's corpse.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Man, video games are fucked up.
yeah, 17, my bad.
You just have a dirty mind, lol. that scene was meant to be creepy, but it didn't imply sex at all.
A wikia is not a source. His age in the art book is listed as unknown. Are you arguing he is significantly younger than the Avatar in Awakening?
I said alluded. He is by all means trying to still be romantic with her, that's his entire dialogue.
I really don't see what your point is. This stuff is in all of the games, with more or less subtlety, but it's not a linear upwards trend.
cj_iwakura
Member
Looking at this last page, I think these two series will get along better than we ever imagined.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Tis strange times we live in lol, the amalgamation of Shin Megami Tensei GAF and Fire Emblem GAF would have been unthinkable a couple of days ago XD.
cj_iwakura
Member
So one interesting thing to take from the trailer: every female counterpart in every series makes sense... except for III.
Nocturne spoilers:
Not that I mind her inclusion at all.
Nocturne spoilers:
Chiaki isn't a heroine. If anything, she's an obstacle for him to crush.
From the top of my head I think Atlus and IntSys write the best dialogue/scripts in JRPGs and am a big fan of both so this is like a dream come true, as tough as it is to mesh the vastly different time eras.