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34,000 pieces of Wii U software were sold in the UK in January (incl. NintyLand)

zewone

Member
I'm going to go out on a limb here but if the recent Mario U was released under a different art style something akin to Yoshi's Island I bet that would have got more people onboard.

The art style for the NSMB series is horrendous. Paper Mario style would have been great.
 
It's hard to read much of this without more context. The active systems with dozens of times the userbase sold dozens of times the software. What have other new systems' first Januaries looked like?
 

AllenShrz

Member
Wii-U-Next-Dreamcast-Masthead.jpg

Does this mean that the Wii U is worth getting now?
 

Burai

shitonmychest57
I'm going to go out on a limb here but if the recent Mario U was released under a different art style something akin to Yoshi's Island I bet that would have got more people onboard.

I don't even think that would help. People won't spend £300 on a new console to play any 2D platformer, let alone one which, at first glance, looks exactly like the last three. It's an absurd value proposition.
 
I don't even think that would help. People won't spend £300 on a new console to play any 2D platformer, let alone one which, at first glance, looks exactly like the last three. It's an absurd value proposition.

Also Nintendo already went to the nostalgia well with the Wii version. I don't know how many Wii consumers would see the new NSMB game and want to play it again.
 

AOC83

Banned
It looked like they had when they had 2D Mario at launch followed quickly by Pikmin, Wario and Wii Fit. Sadly as always Nintendo had to delay those games and here we are.

Shovelware like Wario and WiiFit isn´t going to change anything. These days are over.
 
Also Nintendo already went to the nostalgia well with the Wii version. I don't know how many Wii consumers would see the new NSMB game and want to play it again.

Again, they banked on the success of th Wii carrying over without doing the proper work to support the Wii U


Those infatuated with the Wii either grew up or moved on to iOS
 

Pociask

Member
I don't even think that would help. People won't spend £300 on a new console to play any 2D platformer, let alone one which, at first glance, looks exactly like the last three. It's an absurd value proposition.

Nintendo would have had a better proposition if they hadn't released NSMBWii - if NSMB U was the first 2d Mario platformer on a home console in ages. Now, it's not even that. It's just the next in the line of titles that goes NSMB - NSMBWii - NSMB 2- NSMB U (and you could probably put SMB3DLand in there, too).
 

ironcreed

Banned
Does this mean that the Wii U is worth getting now?

LOL, that is for you to decide. As for me? I am waiting to see, but I am sure it will have some great games when all is said and done. Anyway, I think you know what I was humorously getting at. All jokes aside, I don't want it to fail.
 

Dunlop

Member
Came into thread not expecting so many awesome Gif's and almost chocked to death on a carrot :p

Nintendo's window to do real damage was the year before the next gen "HD Twins", what the fuck was the business plan behind this?
 

GulAtiCa

Member
PS2 sold 2K software in UK alone for that month? I'm not surprised sport games are still being made for it, but I'm curious which companies are still even making PS2 games.
 

Skyzard

Banned
These gifs...!

Nintendo was arrogant releasing such a weak system and didn't bother to support the damn thing thinking 3rd party devs would do the work for them. Now my Wii u is collecting dust and will be for months to come


Nintendo deserves these sale numbers

I'm pretty confused as to what they were doing the last few years while our Wiis were in the garage.
 
Can anyone make a valid reason for purchasing a Wii U either at launch or now? Even die hard Nintendo fans must admit there is nothing appealing about the system whatsoever beyond hoping for potential.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
They pretty much stopped making Wii games 2 years before it died, what the hell were they doing?

I think part of the problem was having to develop for the 3DS as well. Sure that took up a lot of resources.
 
Shovelware like Wario and WiiFit isn´t going to change anything. These days are over.

Are you sure you know what shovelware means?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shovelware

1. shovelware

1. Software that is hastily made, without proper testing, and 'shoveled' down consumers throats in order to make some quick cash.

2. Software that is preloaded onto a computer, that does nothing but slow down performance and does nothing beneficial, but is added in order to increase price or add appeal into purchasing a computer.
1. Battlefield 2: Special Forces Expansion Pack is a recent example of shovelware; it causes CTD's, system failures, massive performance decreases, and addresses NONE of the original game problems.

2. Frank bought a computer just because it had a lot shovelware preloaded onto it, and now it takes 45 minutes to start up.


2. shovelware

an array of haphazard software emphasizing quantity rather than quality

...because I don't think you do.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
I'm pretty confused as to what they were doing the last few years while our Wiis were in the garage.

They were making 3DS software.

Until recently they haven't had the man-power to actually work on a full slate of 3DS/Wii U software, they are expanding a lot to try and stop these droughts in their release slates.
 

Spiegel

Member
It's hard to read much of this without more context. The active systems with dozens of times the userbase sold dozens of times the software. What have other new systems' first Januaries looked like?

No, it's really not that hard to read. WiiU with four new releases in January sold 73% of what the Vita sold with zero new releases.

That says all.
 
They were making 3DS software.

Until recently they haven't had the man-power to actually work on a full slate of 3DS/Wii U software, they are expanding a lot to try and stop these droughts in their release slates.

Which reflects a fairly astonishing lack of foresight on their part, if accurate. Any big ramping-up should have happened while Wii U was in the earliest R&D phases, back in 2009/2010.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
The 3DS lineup doesn´t look to hot either. Mostly remakes and rehashes.

Given that you don't understand what shovelware is, I assume you count Mario Kart 7, 3D Land, and Paper Mario as 'rehashes'?

Which reflects a fairly astonishing lack of foresight on their part, if accurate. Any big ramping-up should have happened while Wii U was in the earliest R&D phases, back in 2009/2010.

Yeah, if they were going to discard the Wii for 2 years they really needed to plan the successor better. If the Wii was still selling well and moving software they wouldn't be quite so desperate. Their hyper-conservatism led to them not making the most of the Wii boom, they should have expanded then. The problems they are having now are exactly the same as the ones they had with the Wii circa 08, when an Animal Crossing port and Wii Music were their biggest hitters.
 
They pretty much stopped making Wii games 2 years before it died, what the hell were they doing?

I think Nintendo grossly underestimated how much time it would take to create an HD content pipeline. Unlike other developers who started making HD content six to eight years ago, Nintendo is just now dealing with this transition.

Add in a 3DS platform that also now requires more complicated game development and I can understand how they are so behind in developing new games.

What I don't understand is why Nintendo didn't acquire or build more development studios while they were flush with cash and knew that a transition to HD was on the horizon.
 

Dantis

Member
Are you sure you know what shovelware means?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shovelware

1. shovelware

1. Software that is hastily made, without proper testing, and 'shoveled' down consumers throats in order to make some quick cash.

2. Software that is preloaded onto a computer, that does nothing but slow down performance and does nothing beneficial, but is added in order to increase price or add appeal into purchasing a computer.
1. Battlefield 2: Special Forces Expansion Pack is a recent example of shovelware; it causes CTD's, system failures, massive performance decreases, and addresses NONE of the original game problems.

2. Frank bought a computer just because it had a lot shovelware preloaded onto it, and now it takes 45 minutes to start up.


2. shovelware

an array of haphazard software emphasizing quantity rather than quality

...because I don't think you do.

...Did you just cite Urban Dictionary as a valid source? Haha.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Which reflects a fairly astonishing lack of foresight on their part, if accurate. Any big ramping-up should have happened while Wii U was in the earliest R&D phases, back in 2009/2010.


Yup. Pretty clear there were some very serious organizational issues with Nintendo for them to apparently be caught so off guard.
 

farnham

Banned
Nintendo was arrogant releasing such a weak system and didn't bother to support the damn thing thinking 3rd party devs would do the work for them. Now my Wii u is collecting dust and will be for months to come


Nintendo deserves these sale numbers

I dont think it was arrogant to make the system weak. They did that with wii and it worked. But not to have wii play, excite truck, wario equivalents on launch is really arrogant
 

AOC83

Banned
Are you sure you know what shovelware means?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shovelware

1. shovelware

1. Software that is hastily made, without proper testing, and 'shoveled' down consumers throats in order to make some quick cash.

2. Software that is preloaded onto a computer, that does nothing but slow down performance and does nothing beneficial, but is added in order to increase price or add appeal into purchasing a computer.
1. Battlefield 2: Special Forces Expansion Pack is a recent example of shovelware; it causes CTD's, system failures, massive performance decreases, and addresses NONE of the original game problems.

2. Frank bought a computer just because it had a lot shovelware preloaded onto it, and now it takes 45 minutes to start up.


2. shovelware

an array of haphazard software emphasizing quantity rather than quality

...because I don't think you do.

Spot on.
 

BobLoblaw

Banned
How people couldn't have seen this coming is beyond me. Nintendo launched a dated console mere months before the next gen PS and Xbox hypetrain took off. Not only that, but their software just isn't great and people aren't seeing a demonstrable difference between the Wii U and consoles they've been playing for years. On top of all of that, their marketing has been terrible. Add all of those things together and this will be as close to Dreamcast as you can get.
 
Yup. Pretty clear there were some very serious organizational issues with Nintendo for them to apparently be caught so off guard.

I think they either seriously underestimated the challenges in transitioning to HD development, or expected that third-party support would pick up more of the first-party slack. Likely both.
 

royalan

Member
I think Nintendo grossly underestimated how much time it would take to create an HD content pipeline. Unlike other developers who started making HD content six to eight years ago, Nintendo is just now dealing with this transition.

Add in a 3DS platform that also now requires more complicated game development and I can understand how they are so behind in developing new games.

What I don't understand is why Nintendo didn't acquire or build more development studios while they were flush with cash and knew that a transition to HD was on the horizon.

It's what happens when a company tries to be as conservative as it is ballsy.

There's a time to hold back and observe the market, and there's a time to go all out and set up your deck.
 
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