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New Unreal Engine 4 "Helmet" Tech Demo Screenshots
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SneakyStephan
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This is why DoF is unbelievably stupid in games, you look 5 cm to the left on a helmet right in front of you and everything is a blurry mess.
The effect makes absolutely no sense since your eyes are trying to focus on whatever part you are looking directly at, there is just blur where there shouldn't be.
Even pretending it is to emulate a camera lens,anyone looking through a camera lens would adjust the focus when looking at that part of the helmet.
In an interactive medium it just doesn't work.
Sorry for totally off topic random rant but it just struck me when looking at that picture.
edit: damn this got split off into a new thread now an off topic rant is the first post: sorry guys, didn't mean to shit up the thread with off subject rambling.
OT: The material shaders on this are really good, it looks like a real object not some uncanny unversion. (like how PD are good at doing paint/metal shaders for cars vs some games aren't)
alexandros
Banned
Well said, Depth of Field is idiotic. It's the first effect I always disable when playing a game, thank God for graphics options
alexandros
Banned
Interesting. How so?
DoF, slight Chromatic Aberration and stupendous lighting: If we can get 70-80% of that kind of fidelity on next gen consoles (by the end), it will be a true generational shift.
And here I am expecting almost slight improvement over WiiU's graphical fidelity to keep my expectations in check.
By the way, look at the dimensions of the picture. If we can fidelity like that on consoles, then I am all for 720p.
Totally agree. Looks completely stupid and horrible as soon as you move your eyes away from the focal point. Games would be a lot better if story and visuals acted like you were the star inside of the world, instead of trying to emulate showing a Hollywood movie.
The lighting looks far better and the metal looks like metal.I cannot wait to see AAA games on UE4.Hopefully we will see some tonight .Also the better IQ adds a lot to the image.
The next gen most likely will be all about lighting and shaders when it comes to visuals. And although raw polycount is going up significantly (that plus tessellation will do wonders in years to come) realism is beholden to lighting above all else.
Trickster
Member
You're not gonna get that kinda graphics running realtime on nextgen. That picture looks like something Blur would use for a CGI trailer
I think it might be a standalone, but Epic normally is at every console unveil with a demo, so we'll find out soon.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Looks like Cry engine 3 Lol.
It would be cool to see a realtime UE4 demo on PS4 tonight. I think the Agni's Philosophy lead is in NYC tonight so we're probably getting a new Luminous Engine demo as well.
Brerlappin
Member
Honestly, that looks less impressive than some stuff ive seen in Crysis 3. Maybe it looks better in motion, i dunno.
FunnyBunny
Member
You have so eloquently described the issue I have with 3D movies.
In real life, I choose what my eyes focus on. And being unable to do so disconnects me from whichever medium I happen to be watching.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Whats with the crazy exhaust vents, is this a rocket ship helmet?
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
looks pretty good. could totally be downported to Wii U..
Yeah it looks weird in stills but I like it while playing as long as it's overdone. It's probably done here to simultaneously show off the bokeh effect and to hide the fact that all the detail in the scene is in the helmet.
Modern graphics are all about simulating a camera, not your eyes.
I likes me some DoF and chromatic aberration.
Shots look amazing! Those textures!
/opinion
Judging from what ND and Crytek are and have done with TLoU and Crysis 3 on consoles, perhaps by the end of the generation we may get indistinguishably close (with smoke n' mirrors) at 720p. Fact is, there is a quite a way to go between this and what WiiU can pull off. I would happy if next gen consoles can go in between that range.
nelsonroyale
Member
I am not sure why you are using Wii U as a metric, I have yet to see anything on it that looks better than GoW: Ascension.
Anyway this looks good, but without a video, this is just a pretty screenshot of a helmet without a context.
Tessellation makes this more feasible. I think we'll all be surprised by the end of this generation.
shinobi602
Member
Looks insane, wow...
That may be. But in time, fidelity on WiiU will out do what has been done on PS3/360. I am talking about that time and its inevitable discrepancy with the helmet image.
The "Elemental" demo could turn out to be one of Epic's next IP, who knows.
The Samaritan would be THE project I would greelight, but CliffyB has labeled it as "doozy" on Kotaku....I may be reading too much into it but it seems that we won't see a game based on this tech demo.
http://kotaku.com/5982905/apparently-the-story-behind-epics-dazzling-2011-tech-demo-is-a-doozy
Going by what First Party studios do on dated hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if we get surprisingly close.
fuck, my thoughts exactly. Well, everything comes with experience (fires up Substance).
High aperture, low depth of field is a thing of beauty. You are wrong.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Very impressive but I need to see it on an NPC in a real game first.
NinjaTehFish
Banned
Any chance this is Mass Effect 4?
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
The consoles really need to track your eye movements and make DoF be based off that. That would really be next gen instead of bad. DoF is fine in still shots because they want to focus your attention to a subject. It doesn't work in motion because you will constantly be looking at other parts of the screen.
Also, there is so subtlety in games anymore. They constantly dial up the effects about 5 times the amount as they should. Bloom is horrible too.
Mass Effect 4 will use Frostbite 2 so no.
Mass Effect 4 is going to run on Frostbite 2.