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Mass Effect 3 - Citadel (SP, ~4GB) and Reckoning (MP) DLC announced
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Leviathan was on sale for 50 percent off during Black Friday on the 360.
ME1 didn't have any post game DLC. In fact it's impossible to continue playing the game after you've beaten it. You either go back to the main menu or start all over again with the same Shepard. And ME2 DLCs were all playable before you get to the end. Only Arrival could be considered post game DLC, but even then you can play it after you've recruited like half your crew.
This is awesome.
Prior to that, actually, I believe. I'm replaying ME2, and I got the Arrival mission almost right after I got the Normandy (think I did one or two missions?)
I think it opens up after you finish Horizon.
Woody Invincible
Banned
Super happy now that I put off replaying through the games after Omega came out. Pumped for a dlc that might supplement my friend-fiction.
To be even more honest, the entire series has been pretty much 'kill bad guys, reach destination' or fetch quests, with exposition in between. Or in the case of Lair of the Shadow Broker: reach destination, kill bad guy. ;P
EmCeeGramr
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ME3 was not a very good game. The first and last few missions were mindless and poorly designed, and the middle is full of dumb filler sidequests, an awful hackneyed plot that can't decide when things are urgent or not, level and mission design became largely unimaginative, fighting Reaper forces was obnoxious and boring, and almost every new character introduced is awful or dull.
Nearly every bit of single player DLC introduced to ME3 is something that feels like an oversight from the original game's release. From Ashes was cut from the main game and plot mid-development and sets up some of the ideas of the ending and introduces an actually interesting new character, Extended Cut makes the ending not nearly as confusing or plothole ridden, Omega was lame but it let you go back to an important location that seemed conspicuously missing, Leviathan provides new novel types of environments, new mysteries, and essential lore that were solely missing from ME3's main game of defending bases from Cerberus and searching for space artifacts, and Citadel presumably provides a chance to connect with your past and current crew that isn't a mechanical "OH HEY SHEPARD WELL BYE SHEPARD" cutscene like in the main game.
[pedantry]Technically, if you have Bring Down The Sky installed BEFORE you start a play, you can access it anytime after you get Spectre status. [/pedantry]
There's no point.
Lime made a post listing half the flaws this game has and people still pretend this is a good game not to mention a year later and they still don't know what was wrong with the ending and think EC fixed it. What EAware did is like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound
Production values > gameplay
You know people are allowed to have a different opinion than you or Lime, right?
HarryHengst
Member
The main part of the game, the combat, really was of great quality. The fact that MP is still being played by enough people to support free DLC is proof of that.
dude me3 insanity is a cake walk there is no challenge there.
HarryHengst
Member
that doesnt invalidate my point that the combat mechanics were something that Bioware really nailed in ME3.
Rei no Otaku
Member
You'd think that, but apparently we're not allowed to enjoy games that they don't.
combat mechanics got better but the overall challenge took a hit thats what i mean. ( having no heavy weapons with you rings any bells?)
Unfortunately I think Thane
dies in the main quest before the DLC starts, if what I read about the DLC being available after the Citadel coup.
Coffee Dog
Banned
What are some problems that ME3 has that aren't also issues with ME2?
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
ME2 respected most of the characters, the universe and the decisions you made in the previous game, while ME3 didn't bother. All the other problems that were present in both games were in much more measured quantities in ME2.
Complistic
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For 4gb it better be like 10 hours or else I'd say the intern forgot to compress it.
I assume a lot of that space is taken up by audio, if they really did have ALL the squad members from all the games record new lines.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Mass effect 2 flat out ignores what path you pushed garrus towards and makes him renegade no matter what. Tali becomes a one note "Shepard you're so perfect" quarian infodump, ashley and kaidan are turned into beligerent retards, wrex is marginilzed, and liara's entire character makes a 180.
As for respectin the universe, thermal clips is all that needs to be said. Seriously, the entire reaper threat is rendered comical due to the sudden incompetence of all the people in power combined with harbingers goofy "Shepard I'm gonna get you" schtick. Terminator baby does not help.
As for decisions and cconsequences, you have to be joking right? Every decision either results in an altered sentence or two (seriously, killing the council does nothing different) or creates a situation that you can just red text/blue text your way out of. Every decision in the series is like this except for amusingly 2 situations on ME3 (krogan and squaring scenarios are based entirely on actions from previous games and you can't BS your way out of the consequences)
The ending made people notice a shitload of problems with ME3's writing. But that doesn't mean that the same problems didn't affect ME2. It just had an emotionally satisfying conclusion apart from the terminator so nobody gave a fuck.
Fixed. Tired of ripoff DLC.
Complistic
Member
Fuck, if it was actually 10 hours I'd buy it.
eot
Banned
Same here.
I actually didn't even finish Omega so I don't see myself getting this unless it gets amazingly positive reviews. Omega was probably the most overpriced piece of content I've ever paid for. Their price gouging is out of control.
Citadel FAQ:
When Can I Play the Citadel DLC?
You can play the Citadel DLC any time after stopping the Cerberus coup attempt on the Citadel and before beginning your attack on Cronos Station. (Note, I had previously said London, but was mistaken).
Will (CHARACTER NAME) be present in the DLC?
We would prefer not to spoil which characters will be present, or in what context, beyond what weve said: the DLC offers a chance to adventure with your ME3 squad, along with Urdnot Wrex, and to connect with old friends, including romances.
Will (CHARACTER NAME) be present only after a certain mission?
After completing the adventure portion of the Citadel DLC, you will have the chance to reconnect with old friends. Your friends will only appear once you have completed their content from the main game. For example, you will only be able to meet up with Jack after both completing Grissom Academy and talking to Jack in the bar at Purgatory.
Should I Have Everything Else in the Game Done Before Playing Citadel?
There is no right or wrong time to play the Citadel DLC, once its unlocked. If you play the Citadel DLC with everything else unlocked (just before attacking Cronos Station), the new DLC content will all be unlocked. If you play the Citadel DLC right after stopping the Cerberus coup attempt, the DLC content will unlock naturally over the course of the main game.
Does the Citadel DLC Affect the Ending?
No, not beyond the possibility of adding new war assets to increase your Galactic Readiness score. You may of course continue on to play the endgame after completing the Citadel DLC, but there is also a natural stopping point that should make it clear where the DLC content ends and your return to the main game begins.
When Can I Play the Citadel DLC?
You can play the Citadel DLC any time after stopping the Cerberus coup attempt on the Citadel and before beginning your attack on Cronos Station. (Note, I had previously said London, but was mistaken).
Will (CHARACTER NAME) be present in the DLC?
We would prefer not to spoil which characters will be present, or in what context, beyond what weve said: the DLC offers a chance to adventure with your ME3 squad, along with Urdnot Wrex, and to connect with old friends, including romances.
Will (CHARACTER NAME) be present only after a certain mission?
After completing the adventure portion of the Citadel DLC, you will have the chance to reconnect with old friends. Your friends will only appear once you have completed their content from the main game. For example, you will only be able to meet up with Jack after both completing Grissom Academy and talking to Jack in the bar at Purgatory.
Should I Have Everything Else in the Game Done Before Playing Citadel?
There is no right or wrong time to play the Citadel DLC, once its unlocked. If you play the Citadel DLC with everything else unlocked (just before attacking Cronos Station), the new DLC content will all be unlocked. If you play the Citadel DLC right after stopping the Cerberus coup attempt, the DLC content will unlock naturally over the course of the main game.
Does the Citadel DLC Affect the Ending?
No, not beyond the possibility of adding new war assets to increase your Galactic Readiness score. You may of course continue on to play the endgame after completing the Citadel DLC, but there is also a natural stopping point that should make it clear where the DLC content ends and your return to the main game begins.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's so weird that the final wrap up to the trilogy is still set before the ending. But I guess they just didn't want to do something with that ending where
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Sheppard lives
Can't do that because some people didn't choose it. Or achieve it. Too many choices that radically change things.
Which is also a reason i doubt ME4 will be a sequel, for this would force BioWare to choose canon ending, pissing off everyone who didn't choose that ending. Would require re-doing a lot of worldbuilding...
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, they did force a canon ending on DA1 for DA2 anyway.
I suppose their Extended Cut thing was supposed to assuage any post-game concerns anyway.
I expect ME4 to be a sequel, and as I've previously stated, I expect them to choose option E, otherwise known as none of the above.
It'll be as if Shepard picked destroy, but the Geth will still be around.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
A game can be flawed but still good and fun.
I'm still having fun with the multiplayer.
Actually, they didn't really. If you start a new game without importing, sure, but even then you can choose. Not that there are truly different endings for DAO, other than minor things such as who rules, which doesn't have any effect for later games... For expanded universe BioWare has made "canon" choices but those are expanded universe.
Imported saves use you what you wanted. With some slight exceptions, like Anders and Lelianna living no matter what.
Can't do that for ME4, because the endings change the world RADICALLY (unlike DAO's ending). Can't import those without making a lot of worldbuilding and development effort.
Or if they do, they repeat the problem of ME3: players' choices are thrown away outside some superficial changes. Fans would be pissed off.
Or they could choose not to have save importing and piss people off. Maybe they'll offer some choices for backround but then those changes are superficial again. And piss people off.
VistraNorrez
Member
The only way to respect the endings of ME3 are to make multiple games each set in a parallel universe where different endings were chosen. Each game would be titled after the ending chosen: Mass Effect: Synthesis, Mass Effect: Control, Mass Effect: Destruction, Mass Effect: Refusal, or whatever. The franchise could go on forever this way, but fans would probably not be happy because whichever they would release first will piss off someone and there would be no guarantee the others would come out.
Or they make one really short game were those endings are respected and they get deep into the differences of how that effects the universe. Of course the story would have to be short and that would upset people, but you could always play it again with the other choices.
Not like any of that will happen though. I imagine a sequel would take place thousands of years in the future with that time gap justifying what will be superficial differences between the choice of ME3's ending. For example, the Geth might be destroyed but there will be a very similar Robotic race that has all the same voice acting but a different look and name. Something similar to the Reapers will exist for those that chose destroy. Synthesis's big difference would be any living being has that green computer pattern on it. And so on.
Or they make one really short game were those endings are respected and they get deep into the differences of how that effects the universe. Of course the story would have to be short and that would upset people, but you could always play it again with the other choices.
Not like any of that will happen though. I imagine a sequel would take place thousands of years in the future with that time gap justifying what will be superficial differences between the choice of ME3's ending. For example, the Geth might be destroyed but there will be a very similar Robotic race that has all the same voice acting but a different look and name. Something similar to the Reapers will exist for those that chose destroy. Synthesis's big difference would be any living being has that green computer pattern on it. And so on.
I just posted this but nobody cares
Citadel FAQ:
When Can I Play the Citadel DLC?
You can play the Citadel DLC any time after stopping the Cerberus coup attempt on the Citadel and before beginning your attack on Cronos Station. (Note, I had previously said London, but was mistaken).
Will (CHARACTER NAME) be present in the DLC?
We would prefer not to spoil which characters will be present, or in what context, beyond what we’ve said: the DLC offers a chance to adventure with your ME3 squad, along with Urdnot Wrex, and to connect with old friends, including romances.
Will (CHARACTER NAME) be present only after a certain mission?
After completing the adventure portion of the Citadel DLC, you will have the chance to reconnect with old friends. Your friends will only appear once you have completed their content from the main game. For example, you will only be able to meet up with Jack after both completing Grissom Academy and talking to Jack in the bar at Purgatory.
Should I Have Everything Else in the Game Done Before Playing Citadel?
There is no right or wrong time to play the Citadel DLC, once it’s unlocked. If you play the Citadel DLC with everything else unlocked (just before attacking Cronos Station), the new DLC content will all be unlocked. If you play the Citadel DLC right after stopping the Cerberus coup attempt, the DLC content will unlock naturally over the course of the main game.
Does the Citadel DLC Affect the Ending?
No, not beyond the possibility of adding new war assets to increase your Galactic Readiness score. You may of course continue on to play the endgame after completing the Citadel DLC, but there is also a natural “stopping point” that should make it clear where the DLC content ends and your return to the main game begins.
ME3 had a lot of squadmate interactions though.
I was just hoping for more considering that it was the end of the trilogy, bringing more of an end to all the relationships (not just crew members). The DLC seems to bring exactly that.
Them singling out Wrex like that makes me think if there's going to be any special squadmates for this he'll be the only one.
Looking forward to someone doing a quick write up when this comes out, I wont be getting it any time soon, but it would be good to know if it is at all worth it.
Well they already somewhat changed the ending to hint more at the fact that Shepard
Ideally, if the
Well they already somewhat changed the ending to hint more at the fact that Shepard
might be alive, before we had just the little snippet after the ending with him/her breathing, but with the extended ending they stopped your love interest putting your name on the wall. So the possibility is there is they wanted to take it, lol.
Ideally, if the
destroy ending didn't snuff out AI like Edi and the Geth then to me there really wouldn't be a downside to choosing it over the others. The Destroy ending also removes the Reapers from the equation, they used to be cool in ME1 and most of ME2 but with ME3 their personality and general characterisation just got thrown aside, and now of course we have the Leviathan instead.
So I would just take that ending and go with it as it leaves the universe kinda as it was without any drastic changes like giant space cop robots or everyone is now gree.
So I would just take that ending and go with it as it leaves the universe kinda as it was without any drastic changes like giant space cop robots or everyone is now gree.
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