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Okay, TeamCG. Come own up to your foolishness. #trolljima

Is Joakim Mogren CG?


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Even if the interviewee is not CG, the editing of this piece is clearly designed to give us a sense of "unreality" about the proceedings. Not only are they not visually in the same frame, but there is no cross-talk whatsoever and the two halves seem like they could have been filmed at completely different times. Geoff says they are in a hotel room, but there is no visual evidence that either one of them is in a hotel room, much less the same room. Plus the content itself... Geoff hypes this talk and "Mogren" gives a "no comment" to almost everything.

Even if it's not CG, surely no one can say this is a remotely normal interview. :)


You have to hand it to Kojima, this is a brilliant angle.

In the end it doesn't matter whether the Mogren being interviewed by Keighley is real or CG, what matters is that its being talked about as a possibility.

This.

The problem is that this video seems so pointless, that the ultimate conclusion is that it must have some greater purpose. Something like what's being speculated is a perfect Kojima-like troll. Epic.

Also this.
 

Toma

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look at the sharpness of the iris compared to geoff's. why is one blurred and one not if its the same footage.

Are you seriously comparing YT screenshots I just made based on "sharpness"?
 

BearPawB

Banned
Even if the interviewee is not CG, the editing of this piece is clearly designed to give us a sense of "unreality" about the proceedings. Not only are they not visually in the same frame, but there is no cross-talk whatsoever and the two halves seem like they could have been filmed at completely different times. Geoff says they are in a hotel room, but there is no visual evidence that either one of them is in a hotel room, much less the same room. Plus the content itself... Geoff hypes this talk and "Mogren" gives a "no comment" to almost everything.

Even if it's not CG, surely no one can say this is a remotely normal interview. :)

they are in a hotel room, but have greenscreens behind them so they can put graphics behind them while they talk.

*edit: mogren is the one infront of a green screen.
 

diamount

Banned
No one said that it's necessarily real-time or part of a game. It might just show the rendering capabilities of the engine.

disclaimer: I'm still not completely on-board with the theory

People have been saying that though and Kojima is relying on those people to spread this around.
 
CG render using fox engine? I can buy that. We don't know have anyone to compare him to, half his face is covered up, and the tech and simulations does exist.

Real time? I don't buy that. Holy shit if that ends up being the case.
 

i-Lo

Member
The problem is that this video seems so pointless, that the ultimate conclusion is that it must have some greater purpose. Something like what's being speculated is a perfect Kojima-like troll. Epic.

The video provides confirms that Kojima has been screwing with people by conjuring up a fictitious game studio (Moby Dick) via unveiling the CEO. How can people fail to look through that?

Plus, it also confirmed that a proper unveiling is to occur at GDC (which may finally reconcile MGS Ground Zeroes with Phantom Pain as the same game).
 
they are in a hotel room, but have greenscreens behind them so they can put graphics behind them while they talk.
Except Geoff's face is the only one with really strong green light. I'd assume they're at least sitting very far apart from each other, but I'm also kind of shit at figuring out lighting so I could just be grasping at straws on this one.
 

BearPawB

Banned
Except Geoff's face is the only one with really strong green light. I'd assume they're at least sitting very far apart from each other, but I'm also kind of shit at figuring out lighting so I could just be grasping at straws on this one.

the lighting has nothing to do with whether or not they are in front of green screens. Mogren clearly is because the phantom pain logos behind him.

also you are right, i mis-remembered geoff doesn't look like hes in front of a green screen with the shadow and all. Mogren clearly is
 
Except Geoff's face is the only one with really strong green light. I'd assume they're at least sitting very far apart from each other, but I'm also kind of shit at figuring out lighting so I could just be grasping at straws on this one.

Geoff has a shadow, Joakim does not.
 
the lighting has nothing to do with whether or not they are in front of green screens. Mogren clearly is because the phantom pain logos behind him.
Wouldn't the lighting from the green screen be causing the green tint on Geoff's face, though? It seems like Morgen is in front of a green screen, facing Geoff.

My point was that Geoff isn't in front of one, or if he was, it would be reflecting off of Morgan's bandages. You know what, never mind, I don't know where I was going with that. =P
 

eso76

Member
People here are trying to make it sound like Fox News, giving all rumours an equal chance regardless how ridiculous the other side of the argument may be.

I guess I expected a bit more from GAFfers but this is crazy town now.

Incredible inspiration for Kojima though.
In the past he has told us allegories on how controlling information is crucial in today's society.
We're beyond that, we're beyond appearance and masks: people will find, manipulate and spread false information themselves, we have become so paranoid of media hiding the truth, we're seeing conspiracies everywhere.

I would absolutely love it if joakim mogren, moby dick games and phantom pain actually existed and were not mgs5 related. An impressive double troll from Kojima.
 

Toma

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Err really? People didn't know this?

I am more intrigued by what "Mogren" may stand for (if it does for anything at all).

Oh god. Now that you say it! I just noticed KOJIMA = JOAKIM too!

MINDBLOWN.
 

Toma

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I think now we are officially in Crazytown.

Nooo, I wanted to do it too, but he was faster. Damn.


(And lol@ people believing RHC was being serious.)
 
What I find funny is that people are congratulating Kojima for this supposed CG stunt when in fact, this whole thing started as just speculation from /v/. I doubt Kojima even knew people are discussing this interview in this angle.
 

thabiz

Member
What I find funny is that people are congratulating Kojima for this supposed CG stunt when in fact, this whole thing started as just speculation from /v/. I doubt Kojima even knew people are discussing this interview in this angle.

how do we know that wasnt kojima starting the speculation. dun, dun, dunnnnnn.
 

Makai

Member
What I find funny is that people are congratulating Kojima for this supposed CG stunt when in fact, this whole thing started as just speculation from /v/. I doubt Kojima even knew people are discussing this interview in this angle.
There's a reason this caught on. ;)

I can't think of another time in history when people debated whether a guy in a normal interview was CG.
 
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