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STEAM announcements & updates 2013 - Year of the SteamBox

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Chronoja

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Does a indie company really make a profit went, for example, their game goes on sales for 2$ instead of 10$ ?

if it brings in 5+x the number of sales than usual....then yes I suspect they would.

Sales are excellent advertising along with the fact that people are more likely to buy things when they feel they are making a savings. Proven fact.
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Does a indie company really make a profit went, for example, their game goes on sales for 2$ instead of 10$ ?
Most stories I've read from developers say that, yeah, they do. It's about volume and getting people who would otherwise never buy the game to buy it. I've also heard that sales can remain higher than before after a successful sale.
 

Emerson

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Dead Island is a pretty poorly made game which isn't super surprising based off the budget I'm sure it didn't have.. It also confirmed that I will no longer buy any games from this genre (that it shares with Borderlands) until devs learn that bullet/damage sponges are tedious.

Pretty much. I tried twice to start the game and enjoy it but it's very hard to enjoy. I don't understand the thought process that led to them making zombies take five or six hits to kill, especially as you level up. Zombies in games should die with one (maybe two) good hit to the head. It's just insanely unfun otherwise.
 

omg_mjd

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So Jet Set Radio for $2.49 is a great deal. Glad I picked it up. But I can't get past that part in the tutorial--30 tricks in one grind?!

Still, sweet game. Was the one title that made me lust for a Dreamcast back in the day.
 

dani_dc

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So Jet Set Radio for $2.49 is a great deal. Glad I picked it up. But I can't get past that part in the tutorial--30 tricks in one grind?!

Still, sweet game. Was the one title that made me lust for a Dreamcast back in the day.

My advice is to just skip the rest of the tutorial and play the game, you don't need to do 30 tricks in one grind at any point during the game.
 

Aaron

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So Jet Set Radio for $2.49 is a great deal. Glad I picked it up. But I can't get past that part in the tutorial--30 tricks in one grind?!

Still, sweet game. Was the one title that made me lust for a Dreamcast back in the day.
Tutorial should have been named challenge. It's not an actual tutorial.
 

Sober

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Dead Island is a pretty poorly made game which isn't super surprising based off the budget I'm sure it didn't have.. It also confirmed that I will no longer buy any games from this genre (that it shares with Borderlands) until devs learn that bullet/damage sponges are tedious.
Although this is true I would love to see a fantasy ARPG in first person, with swords and spells and all rather than iso camera angle, just to see if anyone can pull it off right.
 
Although this is true I would love to see a fantasy ARPG in first person, with swords and spells and all rather than iso camera angle, just to see if anyone can pull it off right.

Basically Elder Scrolls. One can argue whether they pulled it off. I didn't like Oblivion but loved Skyrim, but I can see where people view it as tedious.
 

Derrick01

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Salsa you did not tell me Jensen was in I am alive! I can't believe I didn't pick up on the voice last night but today I recognized it over the radio.
 

rrs

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Dead Island is a pretty poorly made game which isn't super surprising based off the budget I'm sure it didn't have.. It also confirmed that I will no longer buy any games from this genre (that it shares with Borderlands) until devs learn that bullet/damage sponges are tedious.

Nah, Dead Island is a good concept with misaimed hype. It's decent at best if you like grindfests.
 

Dr Dogg

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The worst genre, you mean.

We hit a wall in Dead Island last night, but I'd rank it way above Borderlands 2, personally.

Which is to say we're comparing old, wet garbage to garbage, but whatevs.

Borderlands 2 has sapped what little will I have to play anything in 1st person, involving loot especially with shitty drop distribution mechanics, has terrible comedy focus characters who aren't funny or padded openworld design for a very, very long time. It should get a new award of monotony of the decade but sadly the abbreviation is MOTD.
 

sibarraz

Banned
Which game should I pick between sniper ghost warrior 2 and sniper v2 elite? I love to play as a sniper, but I had heard mixed reviews of both games, so don't know which one to pick
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I believe Sniper V2 Elite allows the most realistic sniping experience if that is what you like.

I would personally recommend Medal of Honor: Airborne if you have a 360 controller and want some unique and intuitive sniping fun.
 

Momentary

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I'm having trouble with categorizing my 386 games in my steam library. I'm trying to do it by genre. Anyone have a pretty good category set up that they use the just include Genres.

Steam categorizes shmups as action and fighters as action... so I'm kind of looking for a genre list that breaks things up a little bit better. I don't know why I'm struggling so much with this.
 
I'm having trouble with categorizing my 386 games in my steam library. I'm trying to do it by genre. Anyone have a pretty good category set up that they use the just include Genres.

Steam categorizes shmups as action and fighters as action... so I'm kind of looking for a genre list that breaks things up a little bit better. I don't know why I'm struggling so much with this.

Just a suggestion but doesn't really help your case: don't even try to make categories for your games because steam doesn't sync them with the cloud, so if something breaks or you reinstall steam, you will have to redo them if you don't manually back up a file, somewhere in the steam directory. It's just not worth it.
 

Momentary

Banned
It's really embarrassing to say this, but I don't even know about some of the games that I have in my Library. I was wanting to sit down and go through them organizing them with Depressurizer. I'm sure there's an option in the program to back up your categorized list somehow.
 

Santiako

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I'm having trouble with categorizing my 386 games in my steam library. I'm trying to do it by genre. Anyone have a pretty good category set up that they use the just include Genres.

Steam categorizes shmups as action and fighters as action... so I'm kind of looking for a genre list that breaks things up a little bit better. I don't know why I'm struggling so much with this.

I just use 4 categories: Beaten, Never going to play, indie bundles, and games.
 

LQX

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I'm having trouble with categorizing my 386 games in my steam library. I'm trying to do it by genre. Anyone have a pretty good category set up that they use the just include Genres.

Steam categorizes shmups as action and fighters as action... so I'm kind of looking for a genre list that breaks things up a little bit better. I don't know why I'm struggling so much with this.

Try doing it by publisher or developer if you have a lot of titles from a particularly studio. Only had few left after doing it that way and just left them uncategorized under games. Worked out for me.

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Just a suggestion but doesn't really help your case: don't even try to make categories for your games because steam doesn't sync them with the cloud, so if something breaks or you reinstall steam, you will have to redo them if you don't manually back up a file, somewhere in the steam directory. It's just not worth it.

Are you certain? I seem to recall my categories being carried over across devices.
 

Dr Dogg

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Gave up on categories when they fucked it up on OS X so that every time I'd sign in at work it would overwrite everything I've done and I'd be back to square one again when I'd get home.

I'd like a widget that work as a random game selector, that randomly picks out something you've downloaded, loads it up and wont let you close it down until you've at least played an hour. Might dent into my backlog. Well that or stop playing stuff full stop.
 

lmpaler

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Absolutely. Given today's sale coincided with a base price drop, it'll be quite a while before it's significantly cheaper, but 66% off during the Summer Sale isn't out of the question.

I remember reading something about some patches not coming to the PC version because they went bust and there are still some bad bugs in the game. I still loved the demo though and I plan to get it, if that is true, hopefully we can have a KOTOR 2 situation where the modding community picks up the slack
 

HoosTrax

Member
Just a suggestion but doesn't really help your case: don't even try to make categories for your games because steam doesn't sync them with the cloud, so if something breaks or you reinstall steam, you will have to redo them if you don't manually back up a file, somewhere in the steam directory. It's just not worth it.
Not true from my experience. I have Steam on both my desktop and laptop, and category changes to one always syncs across to the other.

Only reason I can think of why it wouldn't in your case is because you're not closing Steam properly and allowing it to sync to cloud beforehand.
 

Sysgen

Member
Waking up to the Dead Island and Borderlands 2 hate is amusing but really sad that people couldn't unearth the gaming jewels that these games provide. They're immensely challenging and loaded to the hilt with detail most other developers would not even think to spend their budget on.

Last night in Borderlands 2 I fought my way up a path on the mission knows as the
Bunk3r
. I was level 49, I did this solo and the game was spawning level 49 enemies. I was being bombarded by air
but I had my own air support
, I was being attacked via the enemy ground troops both
enhanced human and mechanical
and I had to face 2 goddamn Badass
Constructors
capable of
missile and nuclear bomb
attacks. Epic.

Say these games provide a challenge that you are not up to or they're just not your "thing" but to bad mouth these classics is ludicrous.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Try doing it by publisher or developer if you have a lot of titles from a particularly studio. Only had few left after doing it that way and just left them uncategorized under games. Worked out for me.
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Angry Videogame Nerd-inspired top one is for things like Binding of Isaac and Gish. "Useless" is for stuff that came in bundle keys that I prefer to use DRM-free versions to play, the mac doubles of Civ IV, stuff that had compatibility issues, etc. These don't have any of the games installed, so they usually don't appear since most of the time I only display installed games.

"Kind of Shitty" is a place to put okay yet confirmed not-priority-to-finish backlog games.

Two hopeful emergent genres from Action are Fighting and Flying/Space. I usually keep new installs in the general "Games" to encourage myself to give them a fair go before turning categorizing them, which risks turning them into backlog.

I'm having trouble with categorizing my 386 games in my steam library. I'm trying to do it by genre. Anyone have a pretty good category set up that they use the just include Genres.

Steam categorizes shmups as action and fighters as action... so I'm kind of looking for a genre list that breaks things up a little bit better. I don't know why I'm struggling so much with this.
I feel like it's good to get to the essence of how it feels to play. So for me "2D" includes Trine 2, Aquaria, Jamestown, and FTL, among others. "Isometric" has Dawn of War 2, Hamilton's Great Adventure, Bastion, and Torchlight 2. These are very different, but the interface and nature of engagement are very similar to me. Whatever mood it takes to play one also works for the others. The same does with all the variety in FPS.

Like, I have Dawn of War 2, Westward, and Empire at War in Isometric instead of Sim/Strategy because they are pretty mindless compared to Paradox and Creative Assembly games. In the latter I'm really paying attention and thinking, same with a sim like Silent Hunter. It's just a different mindset and mode of engagement filled with many details, more of a true genre split. Then sometimes you'll get something that justifies itself, like all 3 seasons of Sam & Max were annoying to have in the middle of the other Adventure games.

But yeah, that's all the advice I would give. If you swing one direction strongly, you may want to split the difference between something like Grand Strategy and Empire Building games. I don't have enough to do that, but I also don't feel like those offer greatly different experiences. They are both slow and methodical and the same mood/desired intensity would set me up for either one. It's all up to the strong distinction you feel is present that would push you to a whole group of games if you were in a particular mood.
 
I guess that's something they've recently improved guys because it never did that in the past, pretty widely requested feature iirc. That along with syncing non steam shortcuts with an indicator if it's installed on this system or not.
 

Relax.MX

Member
I want KoA but im gonna wait i dont have to much money right now..

I want to like Borderland 2 but I can't and I played a lot of the first one, im playing with a friend and is just boring

It's like a DLC of the first one with jokes..
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
I want KoA but im gonna wait i dont have to much money right now..

I want to like Borderland 2 but I can't and I played a lot of the first one, im playing with a friend and is just boring

It's like a DLC of the first one with jokes..

I'm betting KoA will be either cheaper on Amazon or same price with DLCs (and Steam Keys) soon.

Either way, it'll prolly be cheaper on the Summer Sale.

I'm not going to figure out what I want my categories to be until it's made way easier through the client.

I've got it figured out:

Favorites (not a category) for games I'm playing/want to play anytime soon
Indie Games (for indie bundles)
Backlog (for games I really want to play and I don't want lost in the mess)
Non-Steam (duh)
EVERYTHING ELSE!
 
I've got it figured out:

Favorites (not a category) for games I'm playing/want to play anytime soon
Indie Games (for indie bundles)
Backlog (for games I really want to play and I don't want lost in the mess)
Non-Steam (duh)
EVERYTHING ELSE!

I've got:

Backlog
Finished with
Playing
Mac
Beta

I want something better but I'm not going to mess with it right now since it would take hours.
 

FloatOn

Member
I beat the original Bioshock for the first time this morning. I could see how it got it's praise back in 2007 but going through it now it was good just not omgwtfbbq amazing.

Cool plot twists and powers but who had the bright idea of listening to audio tapes while you had to fight? It felt like my attention was split and it kind of distracted from the overall experience. If I were designing the game I would put them in areas that didn't have enemies and give you plenty of time to listen.

oh and pipe mania hacking became tiresome. I'm sure that complaint hasn't been said before.
 

Sysgen

Member
I want KoA but im gonna wait i dont have to much money right now..

I want to like Borderland 2 but I can't and I played a lot of the first one, im playing with a friend and is just boring

It's like a DLC of the first one with jokes..

Borderlands 2: I don't know how far you've gotten but this is a flower that takes time to bloom. Bored? Ignore the optionals so you do not out level the story missions. Further play through 2 or TVHM is another experience.
 

Grief.exe

Member
Have you guys considered the fact that not every game has to sell as much as the next ?
So less popular games will have to sell less in order to advance faster. And I'm sure the total number of pre-orders can be adjusted as well. I've seen games get much higher percentages in just a couple of hours, and I'm not talking about Bioshock Infinite here, but other, not so popular, games.
And the fact that once a game reaches the third reward it happens to sell more because people already get the previous rewards when they buy it. So the whole thing actually makes sense if you ask me.

I'm certain a game can't always reach 100%. Hasn't been the case so far, but I'm sure of it.

Yes we have considered that, we have been watching a game called Defiance very closely.

It has stayed at a linear progression since it was released, despite it going from the top 15 sellers to number 45.
Then it went back up to 35, while maintaining the same, linear, progression.
Then at the same spot, it jumped 20% yesterday.

Steam overlay has been kida iffy lately

it pops up whenever it wants to on Bioshock 2 for example and it doesnt show up at all on Trackmania 2

I've been having issues too.
 

Dr Dogg

Member
Anyone know what's so deluxe about the AC:III Deluxe edition?

Edit: A swift Googling shows it has the Season Pass and a few other nick knacks. Is that Right? it's £3 more than the standard game where as the Season Pass is £24 on its own.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Say these games provide challenges that you are not up to or they're just not your "thing" but to bad mouth these classics is ludicrous.
*looks back at posts* ...I'm pretty sure all of us just said they are not our thing.

I put 50 hours into Boarderlands. I beat it, but didn't get into the DLC. I don't like the game.
I put 8 hours into Dead Island. Don't have to beat it and face the challenges it provides to know I don't like it.
For some mystery of nature I put 104 hours into Test Drive Unlimited 2. I beat the shit out of that game. I can tell you very comprehensively that I do not like it.
I also could have told you 40 hours in.

I have no idea what experiencing "the challenges" has to do with knowing the fundamentals of the gameplay design and whether you like it or not.
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
Brotherhood is still 5 for the regular version and 7,50 for the deluxe edition?

Since I still didn't play 2, I'll pass for now.
 

dani_dc

Member
Brotherhood is still 5 for the regular version and 7,50 for the deluxe edition?

Since I still didn't play 2, I'll pass for now.

I'm more surprised at Revelations price, it seems to remain static since last summer.
Still in no hurry to get it, I'll just skip it for the moment.
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
I'm more surprised at Revelations price, it seems to remain static since last summer.
Still in no hurry to get it, I'll just skip it for the moment.

Yeah, If I'm not mistaken (and I probably am) they removed the regular edition of 2 and made the "deluxe" the only version for 5 bucks when Revelations came out, so I'd guess they'd be doing the same for Brotherhood and price drop Revelations by now.

Guess not.
 

Phinor

Member
It has stayed at a linear progression since it was released, despite it going from the top 15 sellers to number 45.
Then it went back up to 35, while maintaining the same, linear, progression.
Then at the same spot, it jumped 20% yesterday.

I'm not sure about that 20% jump. Couple of days ago it was closing in on 20% or had just reached 20% (don't remember exactly) and it's now at 28%. Still, it probably shouldn't be advancing much at all if the sales numbers (positions) are an indication.
 
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